Friday, February 19, 2021

Joshua McElwee,the National Catholic Reporter's Vatican correspondent and International News Editor, interprets Magisterial documents, including the Creeds, with a false premise - just like the Lefebvrists, then he goes up to receive the Eucharist at Holy Mass

 

Joshua McElwee,the National Catholic Reporter's Vatican correspondent and International News Editor,  interprets Magisterial documents, including the Creeds, with a false premise - just like the Lefebvrists, then he goes up to receive the Eucharist at Holy Mass. - Lionel Andrades

The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX), Italy has had a bad influence on some of the Catholic political parties here

 


The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX), Italy has had a bad influence on some of the Catholic political parties here. The Fraternita San Pio X, Albano, interprets Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms  with a false premise. So they influence some of the Catholic political parties to do the same.They interpret Vatican Council II like the liberals i.e they use a false premise which creates a break with Tradition. The political parties need a Religious and Catechism  section which will teach the Catholics the faith without the irrationality. It is the irrationality, the false premise, which is responsible for the liberalism expressed by the popes and the Left.Why must the Catholic political parties in Italy follow the theology of the Left? -Lionel Andrades



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Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worshop, Vatican is still working on the new Amazon Rite or it has to be approved by Pope Francis if his work is finished. It will be break with the ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass of the 16th century, after Cardinal Sarah interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference to create a non traditional conclusion

 Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worshop, Vatican is still working on the new Amazon Rite or it has to be approved by Pope Francis if his work is finished. It will be break with the ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass of the 16th century, after Cardinal Sarah interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference to create a non traditional conclusion. - Lionel Andrades

Una Voce and the Latin Mass Society could ask Pope Francis to clarify that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical and physically invisible cases in 2021.This is common sense

 Una Voce and the Latin Mass Society could ask Pope Francis to clarify that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical and physically invisible cases in 2021.This is common sense.

Those who offer or attend  Mass in Latin are being put down in the parishes since the bishops, cardinals and popes interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so believe that Tradition has become obsolete.

When they interpret Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms without the false premise then they become traditionalists and are unable to cite Vatican Council II to support their 55 -year- old liberalism. -Lionel Andrades

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If Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia offered Holy Mass in Italian at the Basilica of St. Mary Majors, Rome it could be contested canonically : there is a new version of the Nicene Creed and EENS.The Athanasius Creed is rejected

If Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia, Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  offered Holy Mass in Italian at the Basilica of St. Mary Majors, Rome it could be contested canonically. Since they use a false premise to interpret the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. 

So there is a new version of the Nicene Creed and extra ecclesiam nulla salus while the Athanasius Creed is rejected.They also make the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X obsolete. This is schism and heresy and an impediment to offering Holy Mass.The Creeds are de fide teachings and cannot be altered.

The Rome Vicariate, in general, approves this schism and heresy, to appease the Left. - Lionel Andrades

There is a consecrated Italian woman, who does not belong to any religious community. She has recently finished her theological and catechetical studies in Rome. She now teaches religion to middle school children. She has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid saying there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. If she interpreted Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally she could lose her job.

 There is a consecrated Italian woman, who does not belong to any religious community. She has recently finished her theological and catechetical studies in Rome. She now teaches religion to middle school children. She has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid saying there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. If she interpreted Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally she could lose her job..-Lionel Andrades

To reject or change the meaning of the Creed is first class heresy in the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendam Fidem) : Impediment for the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate offering Holy Mass in the basilica of Sr. Mary Majors Rome

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate at the basilica of St.Mary Majors, Rome, are offering Holy Mass in Italian, while interpreting invisible cases of being saved with the the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. So they reject the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and in particular Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). With BOD and I.I interpreted with a false premise, the Nicene Creed ( I believe in one baptism) is changed and the Athanasius Creed ( all need Catholic faith for salvation)  is rejected.This is an impediment to offering Holy Mass. To reject or change the meaning of the Creed is first class heresy in the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendam Fidem). -Lionel Andrades

Prof. Robert Fastiggi tells Bishop Donald Sanborn that he was schismatic but Fastiggi and Sanborn's interpretation of Vatican Council II with a false premise is schismatic. It can be avoided.

  

Prof. Robert Fastiggi tells Bishop Donald Sanborn  that he was schismatic  but Fastiggi  and Sanborn's  interpretation of  Vatican Council II with a false premise  is schismatic. It can be avoided.-Lionel Andrades

Una Voce and the Latin Mass Societies are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise . So there is a rupture with Tradition . There is a break with the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass of the 16th century and the Byzantine Greek Mass of the fourth century

 At the Latin or Novus Ordo Mass the priest should be free to interpret Vatican Council II without the fake premise. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc refer to only invisible, hypothetical, speculative and theoretical cases in 2021.They are not personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water. 

Una Voce and the Latin Mass Societies are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise . So there is a rupture with Tradition . There is a break with the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass of the 16th century and the Byzantine Greek Mass of the fourth century..-Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Robert Sarah , Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, interprets Magisterial documents(Creeds and Catechisms) with a false premise and offers Holy Mass. With the false premise the Creeds are changed and this is an impediment in any Rite

 In Britain the liberals bishops and priests offer Holy Mass while interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise  and inference  to create a New Theology produces a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology  of the Catholic Church. This was the theology of the Catholic Church at the time of the English Martyrs.

So today there is no difference between the New Theology of the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass.

Even Bishop Arthur Roche, Secretary, Congregation for Divine Worship, Vatican offers Holy Mass while assuming LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  are objective exceptions  to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He maintained this policy when he was bishop of Leeds and Auxiliary Bishop of  Westminister.

This was also the interpretation of Vatican Council II by the former secretaries of the Congregation for Divine Worship, Augustine di Noia and Annibale Bugnini (1969–1975)

This interpretation of the Council is irrational. There is an objective error.

Cardinal Robert Sarah , Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, interprets Magisterial documents(Creeds and Catechisms) with a false premise and offers Holy Mass. With the false premise the Creeds are changed.This is an an impediment to offering Mass  in any Rite.It is a scandl. So his homilies, preaching and catechesis would exclude saying there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

The National Catholic Reporter(NCR) is to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a non traditional conclusion which could be avoided. They will also continue to mention Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray and others, as if they are relevant to the interpretation of the Council today.

The National Catholic Reporter(NCR) is to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a non traditional conclusion which could be avoided. They will also continue to mention Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray and others, as if they are relevant to the interpretation of the Council today.

The NCR interpretation of Vatican Council II is now obsolete. It is time to close that window. The old interpretation of Vatican Council II with the false premise is  old propaganda. So what if the liberals were present at the Council, without the false premise, the Council is traditional it supports 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus.-Lionel Andrades

If the French bishops interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, theologically, they would be traditionalists, affirming the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Chruch.

 If the French bishops interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, theologically, they would be traditionalists, affirming the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Chruch.

The French bishops were critical of the priests of who offer Mass in Latin(EF), since the Latin Mass is associated with traditional faith and morals, which they have rejected  with their liberal interpretation of Vatican Council .Their liberal interpretation is based upon the false premise and inference. - Lionel Andrades



 FEBRUARY 18, 2021

Una Voce and Dr. Joseph Shaw, Prof. Roberto dei Mattei and the weblog Rorate Caeili cannot tell the French bishops to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and so end the liberal-traditionalist divide.Since Shaw, Mattei and New Catholic at Rorate Caeili, would have to do the same.They would have to interpret the Council without the fake premise. They would also have to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 Una Voce and Dr. Joseph Shaw, Prof. Roberto dei Mattei and the weblog Rorate Caeili cannot tell the French bishops to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and so end the liberal-traditionalist divide.Since Shaw, Mattei and New Catholic at Rorate Caeili, would have to do the same.They  would have to interpret the Council without the fake premise. They would also  have to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.- Lionel Andrades


 FEBRUARY 17, 2021

Cardinal Raymond Burke and Archbishop Carlo Vigano still interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so they support the traditionalist-progressivist division in the Church. This was seen in the recent statement of the French Bishops on the traditionalists not following Vatican Council II

 Cardinal Raymond Burke and Archbishop Carlo Vigano still interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so they support the traditionalist-progressivist division in the Church. This was seen in the recent statement of the French Bishops on the traditionalists not following Vatican Council II.

The Council interpreted without the false premise is traditional on extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and so the liberals can no more  quote the Council for their innovations in theology and doctrines.-Lionel Andrades



FEBRUARY 16, 2021



My communication with Massimo Faggioli, John Allen, Michael Sean Winters and Joshua McElwee indicate that the whole Catholic Church can break away from the 55 -plus- years interpretation of Vatican Council II. The Council is Feeneyite with Ad Gentes 7. LG 8, LG 16 etc are not practical exceptions

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/my-communication-with-massimo-faggioli.html


FEBRUARY 16, 2021

The French bishops have to be shown that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise. They will all emerge Feeneyites and traditionalists. There is no other rational choice

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-french-bishops-have-to-be-shown.html

 FEBRUARY 16, 2021

Today a pope or bishop's conference or group of cardinals can choose to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, without confusing what is invisible as being visible and then Catechesis in the parishes will once again teach that there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/today-pope-or-bishops-conference-or.html