Tuesday, April 27, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II when they use the red passages instead of the blue. Authors should no more write books on Vatican Council II, interpreted with the red passages. Also the books on Ecclesiology, written by Ratzinger, Kasper, Semeraro and Forte need to be phased out of the pontifical universities

 Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II when they use the red passages instead of the blue. Authors should no more write books on Vatican Council II, interpreted with the red passages. 

Also the books on Ecclesiology, written by Ratzinger, Kasper, Semeraro and Forte need to be phased out of the pontifical universities.

They are listed under the Recommended Reading( Bibliography) and are interpreted with the red passages to create a false rupture with the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades


 APRIL 27, 2021

Catechetical activity in the parish is based on the Cushingite intepretation of Vatican Council II i.e Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise

 Consider that the Catechetical activity in the parish is based on the Cushingite intepretation of Vatican Council II i.e Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise. The Catechisms, present and past, are not interpreted with the rational blue premise. This cannot be Magisterial. It cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church ( n.1257 and 846 ) can be interpreted with Feeneyism  but Cardinal Ratzinger and Cardinal Schonborn, were Cushingites. In their mind there were only red passages- Lionel Andrades


 APRIL 26, 2021

Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Catechism of the Catholic Church etc were all written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.The red passages were used to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and not the blue ones

 Pope Benedict wrote all his books on Vatican Council II, Ecclesiology etc not knowing about the rational premise, inference and conclusion.So the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257) says all need the baptism of water for salvation but some do not.While CCC 846 says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7) but some do not. It is implied that there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and baptism so CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.This would include non Catholics who are practical exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

This is the confusion of Cushingism.

Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Catechism of the Catholic Church etc were all written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.The red passages were used to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and not the blue ones.. 


BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.

" I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" - Apostles Creed


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict 

1. Do you say in church, at Holy Mass when the Creed is prayed, " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, known salvation, there are visible non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water and so there is no communion with the saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed etc  ? 

Or,

Lionel:

2. Do you say in church at Mass , "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and then mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Church there is no known salvationthere are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so there is  communion with the saints - Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Catherine of Siena, Maximillian Kolbe etc - on extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions, like in the 16th century) the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI on the Proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation etc ?


THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NICENE CREED. WHICH ONE IS YOURS ?

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed

Lionel : 

1. There is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, it is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.

Or.

For Pope Francis and Pope Benedict  

2.There are more than three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they are known baptismspersonally visible. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as explained in the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It was referenced also in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).

When Pope Francis and Pope Benedict avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion their interpretation of the Creeds will be Magisterial and in harmony with the past Magisterium. There would be no hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition-Lionel Andrades


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 APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html


 APRIL 19, 2021

The National Catechetical Office, Italy interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, a false inference and a non traditional conclusion.This cannot be Magisterial.How could the Holy Spirit make such an objective mistake and not choose the rational option?

APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option. They are also not magisterial on the Nicene and Apostles Creed since they make the same mistake which can be avoided

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not_14.html

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The National Catechetical Office, Italy is interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, a false inference and a non traditional conclusion.This cannot be Magisterial.How could the Holy Spirit make such an objective mistake and not choose the rational option?

This is a human error.

The Catechetical Office, which Pope Francis visited in February this year, is in a rupture with the past Magisterium.So it  schismatic.The schism is created with a false premise.

Catholics in Italy are not obliged to follow a non magisterial interpretation of Vatican Council II, with a false premise instead of a rational option. -Lionel Andrades 

Fake premise

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 3, 2021



Pope Francis has called for interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference to create an artificial rupture with Tradition and the traditional teaching on their being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church : this is unethical.Even the secular and Church- judges in Italy are following this error.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/pope-francis-has-called-for.html

JANUARY 15, 2021

In the moto proprio Spiritus Domini of Pope Francis, Vatican Council II is cited, interpreted with the false premise and inference and so there is a fake rupture with Tradition. No one has pointed out this error

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/in-moto-proprio-spiritus-domini-of-pope.html

JANUARY 15, 2021

The 55 year old liberal-traditionalist division is finished since now we can affirm Vatican Council II and Tradition, without the false premise. This was not possible for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.: The liberals cited Vatican Council II in papal documents like Spiritus Domini, to justify a break with Traditionhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-55-year-old-liberal-traditionalist.html

 JANUARY 15, 2021

Pope Francis and the Italian government are promoting a Cushingite version of Vatican Council II so they cannot support Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus. With a false premise exceptions are created for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/pope-francis-and-italian-government-are.html

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 APRIL 14, 2021


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html


APRIL 15, 2021


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict's interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 846, 1257) are non magisterial since they use a false premise to interpret CCC 846 (Outside the Church No Salvation) and CCC 1257 ( The Necessity of Baptism ).They have a rational and traditional choice which they avoid
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedicts.html

 APRIL 15, 2021

Pope Francis keeps mentioning Vatican Council II but it's the non magisterial version of the Council

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-keeps-mentioning-vatican.html

 APRIL 11, 2021

Fr. Leonard Feeney, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Archbishop Pierre Thuc did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/for-fr-leonard-feeney-and-archbishop.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican is not magisterial on Vatican Council II since he interprets the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational and traditional option, in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-prefect-of_13.html

APRIL 12, 2021



Repost : 'The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html



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     With this rational model, the  Vatican  would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.

    ATHANASIUS CREED

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    'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...'
    With this rational model they  would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 
     
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    III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
    15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
    16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
    17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
    18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.
    Now Vatican Council II interpreted with his  irrational premise, inference and conclusion contradicts the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 
    With the rational model, Vatican Council II would not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
    -Lionel Andrades

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    JANUARY 3, 2020

    Italy: Catholic Think Tank Pushes Radical Vision for Church

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  • Lionel Andrades
    Catholic lay man in Rome,
    Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
    It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
    Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
    Blog: Eucharist and Mission
    Tel:- 

Holy Mass in Latin (TLM), Greek (Byzantine) and Italian (Novus Ordo) in all Rites in different countries, is being offered with the false interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and other Magisterial documents : this is an impediment

 


Holy Mass in Latin (TLM), Greek (Byzantine) and Italian (Novus Ordo) in all Rites in different countries, is being offered with the false interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catecisms and other Magisterial documents.

A false premise is used.



They employ the red and not the blue passages.This would be an impediment to offering Holy Mass.


How could Holy Mass in the 16th century be offered by a priest who changes the understanding of the Creeds or who has an alternate interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus or projects the old Catechisms as contradicting each other, since being saved in invincible ignorance would refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church ? - -Lionel Andrades

The centre right political parties in Europe need to take up the case of the pontifical universities

The centre right political parties in Europe need to take up the case of the pontifical universities. For political reasons, the Rector and professors, have to interpret Vatican Council II with the red and not the blue passages. This is not Catholic teaching. This was not the reasoning of the popes and saints in Italy over the centuries.Now in 2001  students and seminarians at the Gregorian, Lateran, Angelicum  university in Rome and the La Sapienza University, Italy, are being forced to use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms. This is not rational. There is no academic freedom. The Vatican Congregation for Catholic Education has approved this political deception. Catholics should be free to follow their Faitha and to teach it in Europe, and in particular, Italy. Instead a New Theology is created based upon a fake premise and there is no opposition from the centre right political parties. -Lionel Andrades


APRIL 27, 2021



The centre right political parties could now point out that Bishop Lorenzo Loppa's interpretation of Vatican Council II is political and not Catholic

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-centre-right-political-parties.html


APRIL 26, 2021

The political parties in Italy are not opposing the Italian government. They hand out a million euros this year to Alberto Melloni's Bologna School.He uses a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-political-parties-in-italy-are-not.html

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  • Lionel Andrades
    Catholic lay man in Rome,
    Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
    It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
    Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
    Blog: Eucharist and Mission
    Tel:-