Members of religious communities and prayer groups in the Diocese of Manchester, USA support Brother Andre Marie and the St. Benedict Center in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS

Members of religious communities  and prayer groups in the Diocese of Manchester, USA support Brother Andre Marie and the St. Benedict Center in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) but they are afraid of Bishop Peter Libasci and the Jewish Left.So they do not comment in public.

I have e-mailed these blog posts to the religious communities, Curia members and the Catholic Charismatic Renewal and the lay groups in the diocese of Manchester.

I have mentioned that the Doctrinal Letter 1 of Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior of the St. Benedict Center(SBC), N.H, in the Diocese of Manchester, written to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), is not posted on the Diocese of Manchester website.The Doctrinal Letter shows that Brother Andre Marie has accepted Vatican Council II,the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.He has re-interpreted them in harmony with the strict and traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Brother Andre Marie has not chosen the political interpretation of Vatican Council II.He rejects the irrational version of Bishop Libasci and the CDF.

Brother Andre Marie has clarified the SBC theological and doctrinal position in his  Doctrinal Letter  1. It is  posted on the SBC website.It says  that there are no personally known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance.He also cited Ad Gentes 7 in bold italic text.It states all need faith and baptism for salvation.

So it is Bishop Peter Libasci who needs to cite Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church,Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and other Church documents rationally, They must also be in harmony with EENS as it was known to the Magisterium and the missionaries in the 16th century.Bishop Libasci must not create a rupture with the past. He now does this when he wrongly assumes that there are personally known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times ( 2016-2019).Otherwise how could there be exceptions to EENS for him ? 

He also must not force his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Catechism(1994), LOHO and EENS, upon the prayer groups and religious communities in the diocese.

It is Vatican Council II ( AG 7, LG 14) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 846) which indicate that there are only Catholics in Heaven and outside the Church there is no known salvation.This has to be acknowledged .

None of the Superiors of the religious communities and leaders of the Charismatic Renewal in Manchester claim there are personally known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of EENS.

They know they would be irrational.

None of them will support Bishop Libasci and the CDF  when they irrationally interpret Vatican Council II with political priorities and pretend that this is magisterial.Since this would be dishonest.-Lionel Andrades

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Letter Explaining Saint Benedict Center’s Doctrinal Stance

https://catholicism.org/letter-explaining-saint-benedict-centers-doctrinal-stance.html

https://www.catholicnh.org/community/lay-groups/prayer/


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MARCH 18, 2019

Vatican Council II does not contradict the 'rigorist interpretation' of EENS. So why does the CDF and Bishop Libasci ask Brother Andre Marie to reject the strict interpretation of EENS?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/03/vatican-council-ii-does-not-contradict.html

FEBRUARY 26, 2019

Why should Brother Andre Marie interpret CCC 846 according to the liberals and heretics and not me ? He is affirming CCC 846 and EENS, CCC 846 and CCC 847-848.He does not have to choose as the CDF Secretaries. Morandi and Di Noia,want him to do

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/why-should-brother-andre-marie.html

Injustice being done against the St.Benedict Center

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/injustice-being-done-against-stbenedict_16.html

JANUARY 11, 2019

Theological Teaching of the St.Benedict Center unacceptable to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/theological-teaching-of-stbenedict.html

JANUARY 11, 2019

The CDF wants Catholic religious communities and lay movements to accept heresy and sacrilege otherwise canonical prohibitions will be placed upon them

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-cdf-wants-catholic-religious.html

 JANUARY 11, 2019

CDF, Diocese of Manchester deception is not Catholic : nor ethical or honest even by secular standards

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/cdfdiocese-of-manchester-deception-is.html

JANUARY 11, 2019

Athanasius Creed not accepted for a Profession of Faith in the Diocese of Manchester

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/athansius-creed-not-accepted-for.html

JANUARY 12, 2019

There are only Catholics in Heaven according to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and they are there with faith and baptism

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/there-are-only-catholics-in-heaven.html

JANUARY 13, 2019

Bishop Peter Libasci assumes invisible people are visible : claims that legally this is being 'Catholic'

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/bishop-peter-libasci-assumes-invisible.html

 January 11, 2019

Traditionalist cites Vatican Council II in support of Tradition - the Restoration has begun   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/traditionalist-cites-vatican-council-ii.html

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JANUARY 28, 2019

In Dominus Iesus the red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, past exlcusivist ecclesiology etc) 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/in-dominus-iesus-red-is-not-exception.html

  

 

JANUARY 24, 2019

Vatican Council II's Decree on Ecumenism ( Unitatis Redintigratio) supports the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-iis-decree-on-ecumenism.html

ANUARY 26, 2019

    

The Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF makes a mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-catechism-of-catholic-church.html

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JANUARY 27, 2019

   

   

JANUARY 27, 2019

 

Repost : The red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/repost-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-red.html

Drag queen who reads to kids in libraries is a convicted child abuser

Drag queen who reads to kids in libraries is a convicted child abuser

March 18, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — When I wrote a detailed analysis of “Drag Queen Storytime,” a program featuring drag queens reading to children that is popping up all over the continent, the Huffington Post mocked the idea that a rational person could have legitimate concerns. Another publication referred to me as “furious,” even though the column was factual rather than fire-breathing. But I am interested in what defenders of this program have to say to the news that the Houston Public Library has just been forced to publicly apologize and then ban a drag queen they had invited to read to children for Drag Queen Storytime when it was revealed that he had been previously charged for sexually assaulting a child.

Albert Alfonso Garza, a 32-year-old man who was last seen reading to children at the Montrose Library in September of 2018, goes by the drag queen name Tatiana Mala-Niña. The library did not do a background check on Garza or on any of the other cross-dressers it invited in to interact with other people’s children. I’d be willing to wager that the other libraries sponsoring this program have also failed to do background checks, as well. It was an activist group, MassResistance, that did the research on its own — and that is when it was discovered that Garza was convicted of sexually assaulting an 8-year-old boy in 2008.

MassResistance, a group of pro-family activists that has been trying to put an end to Drag Queen Storytime on the basis that the intended purpose of the program is to corrupt children, states that it warned the library about background checks many times but was ignored. The library is now blaming its failure on a volunteer, who, it claims, was supposed to do the background checks. MassResistance also says it contacted the City of Houston to ask if background checks had been conducted but received no response from municipal officials, either. At that point, MassResistance activists decided to do their own research, which is when they discovered that one of the drag queens welcomed by the library is a sex offender. MassResistance says it has been working to expose Drag Queen Storytime for some time and that these revelations are just the beginning. 

Continued

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/background-check-drag-queen-who-reads-to-kids-in-libraries-sexually-assaulted-8-year-old

Political interpretation of Vatican Council II supported by leftist CDF : rational alternative ignored

 

The present interpretation of Vatican Council II is political. In ignorance even the traditionalist and conservative Catholic  follows it.

They look at Lumen Gentium  8(elements of sanctification and truth outside the Church) etc in Vatican Council II as referring to personally non Catholics saved outside the Church with faith and baptism.They also ignore Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.

They really need to approach Vatican Council II with AG 7, LG 14 supporting  the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and not with LG 8 etc referring to personally known people in 2019 and so are exceptions to AG 7 and LG 14.This would be traditional and rational.




The present irrational way of reading Vatican Council II has been cultivated  by Pope Benedict and other liberals.






Catholics are misled by the theological papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican.

  

We now can change how we look at Vatican Council II and know that that the Council indicates there is no salvation outside the Church.

The Balamand Declaration and the Joint Declaration on Justification with the Lutherans were possible with the  irrational way of reading the Council. Cardinal Ratzinger believed there was personally known non Catholics saved  outside the Church.For him the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) were exceptions to EENS.Fr. Leonard Feeney was wrong and the Holy Office was correct in 1949 was his reasoning.
  
  

This has to change now. We have to look at the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) with BOD,BOB and I.I not referring to objective and personally known people.So they do not contradict the first part( introduction) of LOHO which supports traditional EENS.
  
 

 
 
 
 
 
 

 

BOD,BOB and I.I are always hypothetical. Always.We do not have any other way of looking at it.

LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22 etc are always hypothetical.There is no other rational alternative,no other way of looking at it.

So the political interpretation of Vatican Council II is dishonest. It is deceptive.It suggests that there are pro and against -EENS passages in Vatican Council II.

No. There are only pro-EENS passages in the Council.

The seemingly 'against' passages must always be seen as hypothetical cases.Hypothetical cases cannot be objective exceptions to the for-EENS passages.
  

The duality was there for Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits present at Vatican Council II but we don't have to use their approach which is based upon a mistake.It is the mistake of confusing what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explict,unknown as being known.

This was the original mistake of Cardinal Cushing, the Jesuts  and the Holy Office in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case.The Boston Heresy Case, as the secular media called it, was really the heresy of Cushing, the Jesuits and the Holy Office(CDF).The liberal theologians then wrongly interpreted Mystici Corporis, Quanta Cura and the old catechisms with this false reasoning. When the popes and saints referred to BOD, BOB and I.I the liberal theologians interpreted them as referring to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.The popes and saints knew that BOD, BOB and I.I could only be hypothetical cases and so were not exceptions to EENS.
  
  
  
  

Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not correct the error.World War II had ended, the new state of Israel was created and they may not have wanted any more tension with the Zionists at that time.
Today we can undo all their bad work and interpret Vatican Council II and EENS rationally.
Hypothetical cases( BOD, BOB and I.I, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc) are not exceptions to the old interpretation of EENS.So there is no rational theology to support the new ecumenism which says other Christians do not need to convert, since there is alleged known salvation outside the Catholic Church.
There are no personally known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church.We cannot see or meet someone saved without faith and baptism.So when there are no visible cases there are no exceptions to EENS.Someone who is not there is just not there.
  







NO KNOWN DISMAS TODAY
Dismas, the Good Thief at the time of Christ is not a visible exception to EENS in 2019. We do not and cannot know of any Dismas' in the present times.Someone in the past cannot be an objective exception to EENS in the present times.
 
  

For someone to be an exception to EENS he must exist and be known in the present times.A possibility in the past or future is not a real person in the present times(2019).
  
 
  
  

There is no known case of a St. Emerentiana today and no one saw her in Heaven without the baptism of water.Ecclesiastical Masonry would support St. Emerentiana and Dismas being an exception to EENS.Traditionalists have not seen through the bad reasoning.

  

It is Cushingism to assume that physically invisible people are visible exceptions to the traditional teaching on there being exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.

The apologists John Hardon, Msgr.Clifford Fenton, Ludwig Ott and Fr.William Most  were all Cushingites.BOD, BOB and I.I referred to personally known people saved outside the Church for them.Today even Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, Cardinal Walter Brandmuller, Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Msgr.Nicola Bux are Cushingites.Their interpretation of Vatican Council II, their reasoning is supported by the Left and Ecclesiastical Masonry.
  
  


So we have a leftist CDF today which is not choosing the non political and rational interpretation of Vatican Council II, which would be in harmony with the strict interpretation of EENS.
 

This is the reason why Archbishop Augustine Di Noia  told the leftist newspaper La Stampa, a few years back, during the doctrinal talks with the Society of St.Pius, that, the outcome of the talks would not affect Jewish Left-Vatican good relations. He meant there would only be the political interpretation of Vatican Council II which would create a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc).
He should know by now that it is Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) which indicate that in Heaven there are only Catholics and outside the Church, there is no salvation.
-Lionel Andrades

 

OCTOBER 12, 2018

How can St.Emerentiana be an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2018? 'Elementary My Dear Watson. Elementary.'  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/how-can-stemerentiana-be-exception-to.html