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The Latin Mass only unites us to the Saints and Martyrs of the past when the
False Premise is not used to interpret Vatican Council II and the Council II
with the False Premise is rejected and replaced with the Rational Prmeise.-Lionel Andrades
We reaffirm our adherence to the magisterium (including that of Vatican II and what follows), according to the Catholic doctrine of the assent due to it (cf. in particular LUMEN GENTIUM, §25, and Catechism of the Catholic Church, §891 and §892), as evidenced by the numerous studies and doctoral theses carried out by several of us over the past 33 years. - Joint Statement by Superiors General of “Ecclesia Dei” Communities,Courtelain, France, Corpus Christi, Watershed, courtesy of Monsignor Andrew Raymond Wadsworth
https://www.ccwatershed.org/2021/09/02/breaking-joint-statement-by-superiors-general-of-ecclesia-dei-communities/
The Ecclesia Dei communities in France
are officially supporting Vatican Council II interpreted with an Irrational
Premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition. They are
supporting schism and mortal sins of faith. In public they are denying Tradition for political reasons.
1.Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise (invisible people are visible in 1965-2021) creates alleged practical exceptions for the 2.Athanasius Creed ( all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation from Hell), 3.changes the Nicene Creed ( I believe in three or more known and visible baptisms which exclude the baptism of water and so are practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS).With the exceptions there is 4.a new version of ecumenism and a rejection of the ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church of the Syllabus of Errors. The baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are interpreted with the False Premise as in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and so 5.there is a rupture with Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Church no more teaches outside the Church there is no salvation for the Ecclesia Dei communities and the 6.Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q, 27Q) is obsolete. If they used the Rational Premise ( invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 are always invisible), they would have to affirm the strict interpretation of EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors in public and then Pope Francis and the political Left would go after them. Now with the False Premise they interpret Vatican Council II like the Masons.
It is the same with Fr. Claude Barthe, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski and the owner of the blog Rorate Caeili.They are actually denying Tradition.-Lionel Andrades
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The Latin laity at Dijon, France must ask Bishop Roland Minnerath to interpret Vatican Council II rationally in public and admit that he made an objective error in the books he wrote. He interpreted Vatican Council II with the False Premise.
They should ask him to affirm the Athanasius Creed in harmony with Vatican Council II (Rational) and interpret all Magisterial Documents rationally and ask the diocesan priests and laity to do the same.
If Bishop Roland Minnerath does not interpret the Creeds according to their original meaning it is a mortal sin of faith. We cannot change the meaning of the Creeds with the use of the common False Premise. -Lionel Andrades
At First Holy Communion classes in Dijon, France, these days, the FSSP priests are not there for the Latin laity. The children are not being taught by traditionalists (Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest) that the Catholic Church teaches today with a rational interpretation of Vatican Council II ( AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846 etc) that outside the Church there is no salvation. All must be Catholic to go to Heaven (AG 7 etc). Neither is this taught to the children by the diocesan priests at the Novus Ordo Mass and other liturgies in Dijon.
Instead the FSSP error is repeated. The children are told that invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentric ecclesiology (Athanasius Creed) of France, eldest daughter of the Catholic Church.
Parents at Dijon, who are informed, must demand that the diocesan priests and those from the religious communities, only interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise and support the traditional French ecclesiocentrism like that of St. Joan of Arc and the Vendees.
The Rational Premise will end the theological epidemic and the whole Church can return to Tradition and not only those who go for the Latin Mass.-Lionel Andrades
Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier, France will continue to offer the Latin Mass as before Traditionis Custode. However he has not issued a statement on Vatican Council II, which is the real issue. Will he interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise as Pope Francis wants or will he interpret the Council with the Rational Premise and so with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ?
He could also assist the Latin laity at Dijon, France and ask Bishop Roland Minnerath and the diocesan priests there, who offer the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass, to also interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and return to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Patristic period and the Middle Ages.
At First Holy Communion preparation classes in France, Vatican Council II should not be interpreted according to Bishop Roland Minnerath but with Vatican Council II (rational) which has a hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium over the centuries in France.
He could appeal to Pope Francis to re-interpret Vatican Council II rationally and come back to the Faith. A major flaw in Traditionis Custode is that it interprets Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise and considers this the work of the Holy Spirit.
The Italian cardinal would be affirming an exclusivist ecclesiology at Holy Mass in Italian and there would no more be a pre and post Vatican Council II ecclesiology. So the theology at Mass in Italian, Latin, Greek or Syro Malabar would be the same. It would be traditional.It would be Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
So there no more would be a reason for Pope Francis and the Left to target only the Latin Mass in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Theology; the Fake Premise.
How can diocesan priests be allowed to use a Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II at the Novus Ordo Mass in France, Italy etc ?. Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, Superior General of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrier must ask the French Bishops Conference.-Lionel Andrades
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2016/11/fraternity-of-st-vincent-ferrer-in-nyc.html#.Ydq-oDPMLcc
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/new-rome-pastoral-guidelines-raise-eyebrows
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Archbishop Roche is using the Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and all the Ecclesia Dei communities and also the communities who offer/attend the Novus Ordo Mass should reject it and ask him to use the Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and affirm the traditional conclusions.-Lionel Andrades
The Superior-General, Father Louis-Marie de Blignières, of the Fraternity of Saint Vincent Ferrer also needs to clarify that they will only interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and not False Premise, They will not follow Pope France, Cardinal Ladaria and Archbishop Roche when they use the Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and create a false break with Tradition.
How can the Fraternity of St.Vincent Ferrer follow Archbishop Roche who speaks about ‘ a new Magisterium’ with Vatican Council II interpreted with a Fake Premise ?.He produces the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition by confusing what is invisible (LG 8, LG 14, LG 16) as being visible (practical exceptions for EENS which is made obosolete.).-Lionel Andrades
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2021/12/important-declaration-of-superior-of.html
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https://www.ncregister.com/interview/archbishop-roche-on-traditionis-custodes-and-its-guidelines-the-liturgical-possibilities-are-in-place
Like a switch - we can turn the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition on or off.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has pressed the button. He says there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14). He has kept the switch on. Vatican Council II has a continuity with Tradition.
Pope Francis' New Theology keeps the switch off. Lumen Gentium 14 (baptism of desire) refers to known and visible non Catholics. He infers that invisible people are visible for him and are examples of salvation outside the Church. So he concludes that EENS and the Syllabus of Errors are obsolete. There is a cut off with the past.
For me Unitatis Redintigratio (imperfect communion with the Church) refers to only a hypothetical case. So UR (Decree on Ecumenism) nowhere contradicts the Syllabus of Errors and the dogma EENS. I have kept the line open with Tradition. Cardinal Walter Kasper's New Ecumenism is based upon UR 3 being an exception for the Syllabus and EENS. He has turned the switch off, breaking the connection with Sacred Tradition and the past exclusivist ecumenism. The premise was his handle Archbishop Roche has used the false premise and has broken faithfulness to tradition received from apostolic times. He has chosen to keep 'the switch' off and has altered the faith and interrupted the living tradition.-Lionel Andrades
Lionel Andrades
Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
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