Wednesday, February 23, 2022

The Fraternity of St. Peter will have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise instead of the Rational Premise to create a fake break with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors, EENS etc).

 


In the course of the audience, the Pope made it clear that institutes such as the Fraternity of St. Peter are not affected by the general provisions of the Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes, since the use of the ancient liturgical books was at the origin of their existence and is provided for in their constitutions.

The Holy Father subsequently sent a decree signed by him and dated February 11, the day the Fraternity was solemnly consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, confirming for the members of the Fraternity the right to use the liturgical books in force in 1962, namely: the Missal, the Ritual, the Pontifical and the Roman Breviary.

https://www.fssp.org/en/official-communique-of-the-priestly-fraternity-of-st-peter/



The Fraternity of St. Peter will have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise instead of the Rational Premise to create a fake break with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors, EENS etc).

Like the other Ecclesial Dei communities they will have to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise as is suggested by Traditionis Custode.-Lionel Andrades


 FEBRUARY 22, 2022

The editors of Il Messaggero, la Reppublica, Correira della Serra and daily Avvenire interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational and not Rational Premise. There reports on the Council are naive.

 The editors of Il Messaggero, la Reppublica, Correira della Serra and daily Avvenire interpret Vatican Council II with an Irrational and not Rational Premise. There reports on the Council are naive.

WHAT IS THE RATIONAL PREMISE?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 says outside the Church there is no salvation and we know that there are no physically visible cases of being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in 1965-2022.So CCC 847-848 (invincible ignorance) is not a practical exception for CCC 846.This is the rational approach. Invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are invisible in 2022.This is the Rational Premise (invisible cases are invisible).The Irrational Premise is invisible cases are visible. LG 16 refers to a physically visible case in 2022.

So with the Rational Premise CCC 847-848 does not contradict CCC 846 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed. It is in harmony with the past Magisterium. There is no schism or heresy with the Rational Premise.

There is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition (EENS etc) when the Rational Premise is chosen. EENS today is the same as it was the for Jesuits in the 16the century since there are no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.There is no development of doctrine. The ecclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church in the Patristic period and the Middle Ages is the same as today with Vatican Council II interpreted with the Rational Premise. There is no rupture with the ecclesiology and theology of Holy Mass today in all rites today and that of the Roman Missal over the centuries, before 1965.

- Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 7, 2020

If Prof. Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise of the New Theology, the Italian Government may not continue to finance him.He would be taking the Catholic Church back to Tradition

 If Prof. Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise of the New Theology, the Italian Government may not continue to finance him.He would be taking the Catholic Church back to Tradition-Lionel Andrades





John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the "Bologna School, interprets Vatican Council II with the common false premise.There is no transparency on this issue

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-editors-of-il-messaggero-la.html



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Cardinal Ladaria was complicit with Pope Benedict in the ITC error

 We are Catholics who affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church which do not change. Cardinal Ratzinger tried to do away with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX by projecting invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as referring to physically visible non Catholics  saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water (Ad Gentes  7, Vatican Council II).-Lionel Andrades





FEBRUARY 17, 2022

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith made an error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj should correct it, before he retires.

 

All Pope Benedict’s books were written with the False Premise. All his encyclicals and apostolic letters were not issued with him affirming the Rational Premise. He never asked new vocations to the religious life, to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise.

1.If LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only in 2022 then the Council is traditional. Since it does not contradict the past ecclesiocentrism (EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

2.If LG 8, etc refer to objective examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church in 2022, then there are objective exceptions, for the past exclusivist ecclesiology. EENS etc are obsolete.

So if the premise is invisible people are visible then the conclusion is non-traditional if the premise is invisible people are invisible in the present times then the conclusion is traditional.

It is the same Vatican Council II before us but with two different conclusions.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) made an error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj should correct it, before he retires. The CDF in the Letter assumed that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were visible examples of salvation outside the Church. So they were wrongly projected as practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.


The same mistake was repeated when the present Adjunct Secretary of the CDF, Archbishop Augustine Di Noia , asked Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior at the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA, to reinterpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 847-848-invincible ignorance) as being visible cases and so practical exceptions for the traditional exclusivist interpretation of EENS.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith.html

FEBRUARY 21, 2022

Before he retires in July, Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, must clarify that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a rational or irrational premise and the conclusion will be different and that Pope Benedict chose the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.

 

Before he retires in July, Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, must clarify that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a rational or irrational premise and the conclusion will be different and that Pope Benedict chose the False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission. They are Christianity and the World Religions (1997) and The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized (2007).Cardinal Ladaria and Bishop Charles Morerod op were officials of the ITC. The two theological papers with the objective error- confusing what is invisible as being visible- was approved by Pope Benedict.  -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/02/before-he-retires-in-july-cardinal-luiz.html


FEBRUARY 22, 2022

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) Assistant Secretary does not interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. Malta's seminaries, religious communities and catechists do the same

 

-Lionel Andrades




FEBRUARY 21, 2022

Malta’s bishops conferences, seminaries and religious communities are following the Assistant Secretary of the CDF Archbishop Charles Scicluna and not publically correcting the error

 

The Catholic Bishops Conference in Malta, like Archbishop Charles Scicluna, the Adjunct Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, is interpreting Vatican Council II with the irrational and not rational premise, and the conclusion is nontraditional instead of traditional. Malta’s bishops conferences, seminaries and religious communities are following the Assistant Secretary of the CDF and not publically correcting the error.  -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/02/cdf-assistant-secretary-does-not.html



CDF Secretary will teach the same error in his new diocese

 


Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and Bishop-elect of Diocese of Reggio Emilia-Guastalla, Italy will teach the error in his new diocese

 Archbishop Giacomo Morandi, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the  Faith,Vatican  and Bishop-elect of Diocese of Reggio Emilia-Guastalla, Italy is still interpreting Vatican Council II with a False Premise to produce a nontraditional conclusion, a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition, at his new post. He will teach the error in his new diocese.  -Lionel Andrades




 FEBRUARY 19, 2022

Hell - mortal sins of faith and morals


Hell has fire and most people go there without faith and the baptism of water. The denial of Jesus as God is a mortal sin and leads to Hell. The Gospel Reading at Holy Mass yesterday said that those who deny Jesus, will also be denied by Him, before the Father in Heaven. Choosing to die without Catholic faith and the baptism of water is a mortal sin which leads to Hell. God the Father wants all to be united in the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is like the Ark of Noah which saves in the flood ( CCC 845).Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation (CCC 846,AG 7 etc).



Without believing and trusting in the Messiah, the Savior from Hell, while being in the Church His Mystical Body, there is Hell. Padre Pio said that Protestants are on the way to Hell and Catholics who follow them will also go there. This was stated by Fr. Stefano Mannelli f.i, founder of the religious community Franciscans of the Immaculate. They have a monthly missionary magazine, Christ to the World, on mission experiences, which stated that the Catholic Church has not retracted his traditional teaching outside the Church there is no salvation.

. To knowingly use a False Premise to reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and other Magisterial Documents (Athanasius Creed etc) is heresy and schism. These are mortal sins of faith.



To divorce and remarry is still a mortal sin of morals which leads to Hell and so are fornication and adultery. Immodesty in clothes is a mortal sin which leads others to commit sins of impurity and go to Hell as are LGBT mortal sins of impurity. In the New Testament Jesus mentions Hell many times and cautions us. 


In the Old Testament the prophet Isaiah asks ‘who amongst us can stand a devouring fire for all time?’


The Medugorje visionaries, who are still alive, were shown Hell. Sister Lucia at Fatima was shown Hell. St. Faustina Kowalska was shown Hell and she observed that most of the people there are those who did not believe that Hell existed.


The beautiful Te Deum prayer concludes, saying, ‘Lord let me not be confused for all eternity’.

Even popes can go to Hell. Dante saw important people in Hell. His list is famous.


These are the general conditions for going to Hell taught by the Catholic Church  when Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms and the past Magisterium ( for example on the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance ) are interpreted rationally. When they are interpreted with the Rational Premise, the Church returns to ‘the old theology’ and the new theology,based on the False Premise, is made obsolete.

For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.- John 3:16

 With the False Premise Vatican Council II is interpreted irrationally and false exceptions are created for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.

Without the exceptions we return to the old theology and so also the old faith and morals of the Catholic Church.

He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment: because the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the light: for their works were evil. - John 3 : 18-19 Douay-Rheims Bible

Catholic faith and the baptism of water is the norm for salvation but God can make exceptions. God is not limited to the Sacraments, theoretically, but the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II tell us that practically, God chooses to limit salvation to the Catholic Sacraments. -Lionel Andrades




For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. – Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.



 FEBRUARY 14, 2022

Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation is the official teaching of the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted rationally, with the Rational Premise

 


"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. - Lumen Gentium 14,Vatican Council II,  cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5.
(Note :The passage in red does not contradict the passage in blue since being saved in invincible ignorance refers to a hypothetical and speculative case only. It is not a practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors etc.)
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.( Note : Those who are in invincible ignorance ; who do not know God and are saved are hypothetical and speculative cases only. They are not practical exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS)

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."(Note : Though God could lead someone who is ignorant of the Gospel to that faith which pleases and these people would be known only to God. We cannot see or meet someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desrie .So being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire must not be projected as being practical exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.It would be a False Premise. What is invisible is neing projected as being a visible person, an objective case.)

When the Catechism of  the Catholic Church  846 is interpreted with the red passage being an exception to the blue, a False Premise is being used.

When the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 is interpreted with the red passage not being an exception to the blue, then a Rational Premise is being used.

If for you LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then you are saying that LG 8 etc refer to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church.

If for me they are not exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology, then I am saying that they refer to invisible cases only in 1965-2022. They are implicit and subjective.

So for you they are explicit and for me implicit and so our conclusions are non traditional (for you) and traditional (for me).

So we can interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the Rational or False Premise and our conclusion will be  different. There will be a continuity or rupture with Tradition (Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q, 27Q),  Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X ( an ecumenism of return to the Church ) etc. 

This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church according to the texts of the Council and the Catechism and the past Magisterium, interpreted rationally.

-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 13, 2022

Two interpretations of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/02/two-interpretations-of-vatican-council.html




Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Vatican Council II is dogmatic, when interpreted with the Rational Premise and not just pastoral.

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