Friday, May 7, 2021

When they accept Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) interpreted with a false premise, inference and conclusion, Pope Francis and Pope Benedict create a new theology , based upon alleged practical exceptions, to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. They create confusion on doctrine and exceptions in the following Church documents

When they accept  Vatican Council II  and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) interpreted with a false premise, inference and conclusion, Pope Francis and Pope Benedict create a new theology.It is based upon alleged practical exceptions, to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. They create confusion on doctrine and exceptions in the following Church documents.

1.The proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation has exceptions.Since extra ecclesiam nulla salus has exceptions. So it is made obsolete, theologically.Why should we affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II for him, says there are exceptions. Similarly he could ask why is there a need to proclaim th Social Reign of Christ when Vatican Council II says....

2.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) is made obsolete since unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are projected as practical exceptions.EENS is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century stated Pope Benedict(Avvenire).

3.The Great Commission is  obsolete since there is alleged known salvation outside the Church.So Pope Benedict has asked why should there be mission when for him Vatican Council II says there is salvation outside the Church( Avvenire).He has used the false premise and no one has corrected it.

4.The First Commandment does not mean believing that there is true worship in only the Catholic Church.Since there is alleged known salvation outside the Catholic Church, practical exceptions to EENS etc.So non Christians and atheists can be saved outside the Church even in a violation of the First Commandment.

5.The Nicene Creed remains changed when the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are accepted as known examples of salvation outside the Church. So we no more believe in 'one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' but in three or more baptisms.They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church ( LG 8, UR 3, GS 22 etc ) and so are practical exceptions to EENS according to two theological papers of the International Theological Commission approved by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria.

6.The Athanasius Creed is  obsolete.Since the Church no more teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation.Theologically, there are practical exceptions to EENS created with the fake premise.

7.Jesus in the Bible is contradicted. Since there are alleged known exceptions to John 3:6 and Mark 16:16 when the false premise is used to interpret the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance.The popes accept the  LOHO with the objective error. LOHO was placed in the Denzinger and is referenced in Vatican Council II(LG 16).

8.The Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.846) which says outside the Church there is no salvation, citing Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism for salvation), has alleged practical exceptions now.Similarly CCC 845 which states the Church is like the Ark of Noah that saves in the flood has alleged exceptions.So all do not need to enter the Ark to be saved.Also the Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.847,848) are projected as exceptions to traditional eccesiocentrism and dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary form.

Vatican Council II is interpreted with the false premise to create an artficial hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition, instead of a continuity.Based upon this false interpretation of Vatican Council II we have Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus and other Church documents which are considered Magisterial by Pope Benedict.

9.The Catechism of Pope Pius X contradicts itself when it mentions being saved in invincible ignorance which is interpreted as a reference to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water. This contradicts 24Q and 27 Q in the same Catechism.

10.The baptism of desire ( the deire thereof) mentioned in the Catechism of the Council of Trent  is proejected as an exception to the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q). So the Catechisms contradict each other when the fault really lies with the false premise,used in the interpretation.

Vatican Council II is interpreted in a non Magisterial way by the two popes.

The Holy Office (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) made an objective error in the LOHO with reference to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance could not be objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The same mistake was repeated by Pope John XXIII at the start of Vatican Council II and Pope Paul VI at the conclusion of Vatican Council II(1965).

Pope Paul VI had a choice. He could have interpreted LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as refering to only hypothetical cases and so not practical exceptions to the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology.This choice is still there before the present two popes.

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict popes need to correct the error which has spread throughout the Catholic Church like a theological epidemic. All the bishops  conferences have been affected by the mistake.-Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission
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There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!

 There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!They agree with me, when I write that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II and the Creeds, Catechisms etc, since they interpret them with the false premise, instead of without it, they use the irrational red passages instead of the rational blue ones, so they create an artificial hermeneutic of rupture when there really is a continuity with Tradition if they would avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion.

So Bishop Robert Barron received the million dollar Templeton Foundation since he used the  false premise to interpret Vatcian Council II. 

Prof. Alberto Melloni would not continue to receive a million euros from the Italian government,  if he had used the blue passages to interpret Vatican Council II. 

Ralph Martin remains on the Vatican offices for the New Evangelisation  since he chooses to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise, which is not Magisterial.This was approved by Pope Benedict. 

The Holy Spirit guides the teaching authority of the Catholic Church and we  refer to this as the Magisterium. 

The Holy Spirit cannot guide the Church to choose a false premise and make an objective error in observation, which results in a break with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church and a rupture with the Creeds and Catechisms and Tradition in general. There cannot be a development of doctrine based upon a fake premise. This is deception or human error.It is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit. -Lionel Andrades

 APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option

 


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion ( red passages below) instead of the rational option( blue passages below).

To be Magisterial they need to interpret Vatican Council II with 'the blue passages'.

The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and choose 'the red passages'. -Lionel Andrades



Fake premise

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades

APRIL 13, 2021

The Department of Theology at the Pontifical University St. John Lateran, Rome have been informed that there are two options in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and they are using the irrational one

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-department-of-theology-at.html

APRIL 13, 2021

The faculty at the Augustine Institute, Graduate School, Colorado interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with Catholic orthodoxy and then they claim on their website that they teach orthodoxy

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-faculty-at-augustine-institute.html

APRIL 13, 2021

There are articles/reports on Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise on the website of the traditionalists. They are there on the websites of the Most Holy Family Monastery, Catholicism.org,Most Holy Trinity Seminary,Novus Ordo Watch, Rorate Caeili, Remnant News, Correspondenza Romano etc. They need to be corrected

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/there-are-articlesreports-on-vatican.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Repost : Padre Pio Prayer Groups, Neo Catechumenal Way, Charismatic Renewal, all the religious communities, Diocesan priests... the SSPX Archbishop Gerhard Muller and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-padre-pio-prayer-groups-neo.html


 APRIL 13, 2021

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican is not magisterial on Vatican Council II since he interprets the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational and traditional option, in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-prefect-of_13.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Bishop Steven J.Lopes interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion.He would also be interpreting the Creeds and Catechisms with the same irrationality. This is an irregular issue. It is a canonical issue : he excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco for supporting Tradition and opposing the false interpretation of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/bishop-steven-jlopes-interprets-vatican.html

APRIL 13, 2021

All the books on Vatican Council II on display at the Society of St. Pius X (Fraternita Sacerdotale San Pio X) center in Albano, Italy are written with the false premise. New books need to be written on the Council, interpreted without the irrational premise, inference and conclusion   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/all-books-on-vatican-council-ii-on.html

 APRIL 12, 2021

Repost . The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html

 APRIL 12, 2021

Feeneyites do not have to deny the baptism of desire since BOD is always invisible and hypothetical, it never was a practical exception to EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/feeneyites-do-not-have-to-deny-baptism.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II at the office of Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State and also at the library of the St. John Lateran University, Rome, is now obsolete

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii_53.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II on the Most Holy Family Monastery, USA website is now obsolete. It is the same for the Vatican websites

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii_12.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II on the SSPX websites is now obsolete

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii.html

APRIL 11, 2021

There is the Augustine Institute, Graduate School in Colorado, USA and there is the St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom, at the St. Benedict Center,New Hampshire,USA. I would recommend the latter

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/there-is-augustine-instiute-graduate.html

APRIL 11, 2021

Fr. Leonard Feeney, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Archbishop Pierre Thuc did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/for-fr-leonard-feeney-and-archbishop.html

APRIL 10, 2021

All these years the main line media in the USA and Europe have criticized Lefebvre and Feeney. What will they now do when they discover that Vatican Council II supports the two traditionalists ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/all-these-years-main-line-media-in-usa.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

Why should the readers of the Most Holy Family Monastery(MHFM) website interpret Vatican Council II like Michael and Peter Dimond and not like me ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/why-should-readers-of-most-holy-family.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

The interpretation of Magisterial documents by the present two popes would be different from that of the popes before 1930,who did not use the false premise. The popes at that time were Feeneyites. Today they are Cushingites

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-interpretation-of-magisterial.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

It was not known to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney : Vatican Council II is in harmony with 16th century EENS. There is no ' development of doctrine' 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/it-was-not-known-to-archbishop-marcel.html

APRIL 8, 2021

Repost : The Boston Heresy Case refers historic magisterial heresy in the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-boston-heresy-case-refers.html

APRIL 8, 2021

Without the irrational premise the Council supports Tradition and the suspended priests. The Council without the false premise supports the priests and not the bishops : Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy and Mons. Luigi Negri

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/without-irrational-premise-council.html

APRIL 7, 2021

If Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted Vatican Council II without the false premise in 1965 there would be no liberal-traditionalist division in the Catholic Church today

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/if-archbishop-marcel-lefebvre.html

APRIL 7, 2021

Repost : Robert Kennedy asked Richard Cushing to suppress Fr. Leonard Feeney

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-robert-kennedy-asked-richard.html

APRIL 6, 2021

When it is said that Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and Catholic Tradition, this is a conclusion. The premise is that there are physically visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance.Otherwise there could not be exceptions. But this is a false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/when-it-is-said-that-lumen-gentium-16.html

MARCH 14, 2021

So why did Vatican Council II mention salvation outside the Church, when there is no known salvation outside the Church?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/so-why-did-vatican-council-ii-mention.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html
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MAY 4, 2021



Pope Francis' message on Catechetics is based upon the non Magisterial interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 845,846,1257 etc). If he did not use the false premise, the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church would be the same before and after Vatican Council II and so would Catechetics

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/pope-francis-message-on-catechetics-is.html

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APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option. They are also not magisterial on the Nicene and Apostles Creed since they make the same mistake which can be avoided

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option.1

They use the same false premise to interpret the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I). I avoid the false premise. 
However with BOD, BOB and I.I interpreted with the false premise,they change the traditional interpretation of the Apostles and Nicene Creed.It is different from mine. For me BOD, BOB and I.I are always implicit but for the popes they are explicit. So they become exceptions to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS), the Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q).
The present two popes are in a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church, who did not use the false premise, inference and conclusion. 
Their use of the false premise, inference and conclusion would not be magisterial. Since the Holy Spirit could not make an objective error and choose an irrational option, which is non traditional and schismatic.
 They support the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston 1949(LOHO) which wrongly assumed unknown and invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were known and visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. So LOHO concluded heretically, that not every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation. The same error was made by the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II. The LOHO is referenced in Vatican Council II(LG 16) with the mistake and it is also placed in the Denzinger.
So also the interpretation of the Catechisms by Pope Francis and Pope Benedict , with the false premise, would be different, from mine.


THERE CAN BE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE APOSTLES CREED AND THE NICENE CREED. 

How do you interpret the Apostles Creed at Holy Mass ?

There are two options, one rational and the other irrational, one traditional and the other non traditional, one heretical and the other non heretical, one schismatic and the other not a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Most Catholics choose the irrational version which is not prohibited by the popes, cardinals and bishops.

" I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" - Apostles Creed


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict 

1. Do you say in church, at Holy Mass when the Creed is prayed, " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, known salvation, there are visible non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water and so there is no communion with the saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed etc  ? 

Or,

Lionel:

2. Do you say in church at Mass , "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and then mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Church there is no known salvationthere are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so there is  communion with the saints - Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Catherine of Siena, Maximillian Kolbe etc - on extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions, like in the 16th century) the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI on the Proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation etc ?


THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NICENE CREED. WHICH ONE IS YOURS ?

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed

Lionel : 

1. There is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, it is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.

Or.

For Pope Francis and Pope Benedict  

2.There are more than three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they are known baptismspersonally visible. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as explained in the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It was referenced also in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).

When Pope Francis and Pope Benedict avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion their interpretation of the Creeds will be Magisterial and in harmony with the past Magisterium. There would be no hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not_14.html

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MAY 6, 2021

The Vatican's Congregation for Catholic Education has approved political theology, bad theology.Since the Left wants it for the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/the-vaticans-congregation-for-catholic.html
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission
Tel:- 

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Adorazione Eucaristica - Diretta

Incontro di Preghiera In Riparazione dell'Aborto

The Netherlands: Three Pro-Life Victories!

 




https://gloria.tv/post/8kJoz2iPyUnnCVsCAtXjTTyS2

The Netherlands: Three Pro-Life Victories!












From Pro-Life Hero, Salome Irene Van Der Wende in the Netherlands:

We won all 3 cases! We recently held an awareness campaign for a number of weeks throughout the country, using advertising consoles along the street, metro entrance, bus stops, and some were near abortion clinics. The signs showed an image of a 6 week baby from conception - merely to educate passers by.

3 residents of the Netherlands placed formal complaints.
Our court hearing was on April 1 (April Fools Day) while the verdicts were placed online today, May 5, a day which is also celebrated as Day of Liberation (from WWII).

One case was complaining that it was anti-abortion propaganda, causing young women "veel schade en verdriet opleveren" a great deal of damage and grief. The complaint was rejected.

Another case was a gentleman complaining because it reminded him of a miscarriage. He found it 'very much' to be confronted "heel erg om met deze uiting te worden geconfronteerd". This complaint was also rejected.

The third case concerned our sign which was in the vicinity of an abortion clinic. She called it anti-abortion advertising, that it was a political statement, not advertising, "erg triggerend en aanstootgevend worden ervaren" very triggering and can be perceived as offensive. No one is waiting for images like this when they walk out of the abortion clinic; "abortion" and "the Protestants" are tough enough, the complainant argued. Our sign disturbed the complainant and, she is sure, other women too.

This complaint was also rejected.

The verdicts can be read here:
Amsterdam - reclamecode.nl/uitspraken/uitspraak/titel-van-uitspraak/

Zwolle - reclamecode.nl/uitspraken/uitspraak/titel-van-uitspraak/

Almere - reclamecode.nl/uitspraken/uitspraak/titel-van-uitspraak/

It's been 50 years since the first abortion clinic opened in The Netherlands, 1971 February 27, in Arnhem.

AbortusInformatie.nl
AbortionInformation.eu