Wednesday, September 23, 2020

St.Francis of Assisi held the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.He was a Feeneyite and not a Cushingite.

    


St.Francis of Assisi held the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.He was a Feeneyite and not a Cushingite. He loved nature and had the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus on his body. He believed non Catholics needed to convert into the Catholic Church  to avoid Hell. He believed some of his Friars, still pagans and unbelievers,  in heresy, would be going to Hell. Read the book The Little Flowers of St. Francis of Assisi. -Lionel Andrades

All Pope Benedict's books on Vatican Council II were written with a false premise.All his articles on Ecclesiology were written with the same false premise.His theology on the New Evangelisation was based upon the false premise. There is no correction from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. This is a scandal.

 All Pope Benedict's books on Vatican Council II were written with a false premise.All his articles on Ecclesiology were written with the same false premise.His theology on the New Evangelisation was based upon the false premise. There is no correction from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. This is a scandal. -Lionel Andrades

Give me Jesus / Fiducia sei per noi - Mladifest Medjugorje 2019

Give talks on Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Use the material from this blog. See Vatican Council II as being a friend of Tradition. Refuse to interpret the Council irrationally.

 Give talks on Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Use the material from this blog. See Vatican Council II as being a friend of Tradition. Refuse to interpret the Council irrationally. -Lionel Andrades

Those who attend the Latin Mass should not feel alienated at a Novus Ordo community meeting or Mass, since with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, the theology and ecclesiology at Mass in other rites, is as traditional as the Latin Mass of the 16th century or Mass in Greek in the first century

 Those who attend the Latin Mass should not feel alienated at a Novus Ordo community meeting or Mass, since with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, the theology and ecclesiology at Mass in other rites, is as traditional as the Latin Mass of the 16th century or Mass in Greek in the first century. -Lionel Andrades

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Now all those who are accepted as members of the International Theological Commission(ITC), Vatican have to make the same mistake. They have to over look the error in all the books written on Vatican Council II. The new Master General of the Dominicans Fr.Gerard Timoner is also a member of the ITC.

 Rahner and Ratzinger interpreted Vatican Council II with a false premise to create an artificial rupture with Tradition.May be there was a threat at that time.(1965).

Now all those who are accepted as members of the International Theological Commission(ITC), Vatican have to make the same mistake.

They have to over look the error in all the books written on Vatican Council II.

The new Master General of the Dominicans Fr.Gerard Timoner  is also a member of the ITC.-Lionel Andrades

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Cushingism and then made the same mistake at Vatican Council II(1965). The popes since then have been repeating the same mistake.

 Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Cushingism and then made the same mistake at Vatican Council II(1965). The popes since then have been repeating the same mistake. -Lionel Andrades

The saints Aquinas, Augustine, Anthony Marie Claret, Robert Bellarmine and St.Francis of Assisi were Feeneyites and not Cushingites

 Cushingism says outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation, there are personally known non Catholics saved without the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance.

Feeneyism says outside the Catholic Church there no known salvation for us human beings.There are no visible cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance.Neither are there any known cases saved outside the Church with reference to LG 8, UR 3, NA 3, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II.

If for you LG 16 is an exception to EENS then you are a Cushingite.

If for you LG 16 etc are not exception to EENS then you are a Feeneyite. 

The saints Aquinas, Augustine, Anthony Marie Claret, Robert Bellarmine and St.Francis of Assisi were Feeneyites.-Lionel Andrades

The concept of doctrines changing and developing so that the Church now says outside the Church there is known salvation, was only possible when rationality and logic were destroyed by using a false premise and then accepting the non traditional conclusion.

 The concept of doctrines changing and developing  so that the Church now says outside the Church there is known salvation, was only possible when rationality and logic  were destroyed by using a false premise and then accepting the non traditional conclusion. -Lionel Andrades

Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Peter Kwasniewski have posted reports on Vatican Council II in which they have not mentioned the false premise.

 


Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Peter Kwasniewski have posted reports on Vatican Council II in which they have not mentioned the false premise. 

In their recent reports they have used the false premise to interpret the Council as did the Council Fathers, Cushning, Rahner and Ratzinger. The difference is that the former accept the conclusion along with the liberals and the latter reject it along with the Lefebvrists. 

With the false premise Vigano and Kwasniewksi reject John 3:5 which says all need the baptism of water.They postulate exceptions when they personally do not know of any.

With the false premise they suggest that there is salvation outside the Church even in pagan religions which follow false gods and violate the First Commandment.

With the false premise used to interpret Vatican Council II they imply that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Council of Florence 1441).

Even after being informed they will not address this issue and are part of the general apostasy in the Catholic Church, sustained by Leftist laws.-Lionel Andrades

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/vigano-how-is-it-that-the-bible-and-all-church-documents-can-be-questioned-except-vatican-ii

https://onepeterfive.com/vigano-critique-council/



Message by Mgr Athanasius Schneider at the Lepanto Foundation

You are the Fire - Mladifest 2019 Medjugorje

The real issue in the Catholic Church is no more Vatican Council II. The real issue is extra ecclesiam nulla salus, interpeted with or without the false premise

 The real issue in the Catholic Church is no more Vatican Council II. The real issue is extra ecclesiam nulla salus, interpeted with or without the false premise.

Vatican Council II without the false premise does not contradict EENS with no exceptions. It also does not contradict the rest of Tradition. So the Council is no more an issue.

However if Vatican Council II is interpreted with the false premise  then there is the innovative  EENS with exceptions. This is the EENS of the Lefebvrists and liberals. It is approved by the Masons.

However if Vatican Council II is interpreted without the false premise are Catholics ready to affirm EENS( with no exceptions), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX( with no objective exceptions), the Catechism of Pope Pius X( invincible ignorance is not an exception to 24 Q and 27Q), the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation?

Since Pope Benedict and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise, there are exceptions.So they reject the Athanasius Creed. -Lionel Andrades

Do not interpret Vatican Council II like Bishop Donald Sanborn and Bishop Mark Pivarunas.They use the false premise to create an artificial break with Tradition. Then they reject the Council. They are not really traditionalists. Choose the interpretation of Vatican Council II on this blog. It is rational even though politically in correct with the Left.

 Do not interpret Vatican Council II like Bishop Donald Sanborn and Bishop Mark Pivarunas.They use the false premise to create an artificial break with Tradition. Then they reject the Council. They are not really traditionalists.

Choose the interpretation of Vatican Council II on this blog.

It is rational even though politically in correct with the Left. -Lionel Andrades

Go out into the peripheries and proclaim the Good News that Jesus Died and is Risen to give eternal life for all those who believe in Him and live His teachings preserved in the Catholic Church. Thos who do not accept Jesus as the Saviour and Redeemer, He will also deny as not being his own, on Judgement Day. This is the will of God the Father.

 Go out into the peripheries and proclaim the Good News  that Jesus Died  and is Risen to give eternal life for all those who believe in Him and live His teachings preserved in the Catholic Church.

Thos who do not accept Jesus as the Saviour and Redeemer, He will also deny as not being his own, on Judgement Day. This is the will of God the Father. -Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Walter Kasper has interpreted Vatican Council II with a false premise on the website of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity.The same mistake was made on the Vatican's website for the Clergy. A correction needs to be made by the Vatican.

 Cardinal Walter Kasper has interpreted Vatican Council II with a false premise on the website of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity.The same mistake was made on the Vatican's website for the Clergy.

A correction needs to be made by the Vatican. -Lionel Andrades




OCTOBER 21, 2011


Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity claims Pope Pius XII condemned the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus :suggests those in invincible ignorance are explicitly known to us and so contradicts the dogma

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/pontifical-council-for-promoting.html









Saturday, October 15, 2011
Vatican website for clergy promotes 'theology of religions', Kung and Knitter : claims Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for the same interpretation of the dogma as the popes and saints
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/vatican-webste-for-clergy-promotes.html



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2.2.3. La condanna dell'indifferentismo e del razionalismo



La sempre maggiore conoscenza della vastità del fenomeno religioso finì per porre il cristianesimo a fianco delle altre religioni.


Naturalmente il rischio del relativismo e dell'indifferentismo era a questo punto assai forte e contro di esso intervenne il magistero della chiesa cattolica. Da qui un certo ritorno alla posizione rigorista che si può cogliere con chiarezza prima nella condanna di Felicité de Lamennais ad opera di papa Gregorio XVI, poi dagli interventi papa Pio IX e infine nello schema preparatorio De ecclesia del Concilio Vaticano I.


Nell'enciclica Mystici corporis di papa Pio XII del 29 giugno 1943 viene messa a tema ancora una volta la questione dell'appartenenza alla chiesa che si realizza visibilmente solo grazie al battesimo, alla professione della vera fede e alla comunione ecclesiale. Centrale è qui l'affermazione che la chiesa corpo di Cristo si identifica con la chiesa cattolica romana. Quanti le sono ancora estranei, possono però essere ordinati ad essa, sia pure per un inconsapevole desiderio o voto e solo così poter sperare nella salvezza.


Infine un ulteriore pronunciamento magisteriale fu provocato dall'insegnamento di alcuni teologi americani che interpretavano l'assioma Extra ecclesiam nulla salus in senso rigorista, concedendo la salvezza solo ai battezzati cattolici e a quei catecumeni che avessero esplicitamente chiesto di entrare nella chiesa cattolica. Il vescovo di Boston, Mons. Cushing, chiese l'intervento del Sant' Ufficio, la cui risposta, pur riaffermando la dignità dogmatica dell'assioma, ne condannò l'interpretazione rigorista riprendendo le tesi dell'ignoranza invincibile e del voto implicito (Cfr. DS, 3866-3873. Tra questi il gesuita P. Leonard Feeney, non accettò le indicazioni del magistero e subì la scomunica il 4 febbraio 1953).

The Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Bishop and Curia of the Diocese of Manchester, USA's criticism of Brother Andre Marie MICM, on the diocese website, is based on Vatican Council II (LG 16), the Catechism of the Catholic Church(847-848) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Council of Florence 1441) interpreted with a false premise.The St. Benedict Center is not obliged to follow the objective error.

 The Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Bishop and Curia of the Diocese of Manchester, USA's criticism of Brother Andre Marie MICM, on the diocese website, is based on Vatican Council II (LG 16), the Catechism of the Catholic Church(847-848) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Council of Florence 1441) interpreted with a false premise.The St. Benedict Center is not obliged to follow the objective error. -Lionel Andrades

How can Pope Francis interpret Vatican Council Ii with a false premise and then issue an encyclical on October 4 the Feast of St. Francis of Assisi based upon this perspective and not address this issue ?

 How can Pope Francis interpret Vatican Council Ii with a false premise and then issue  an encyclical on October 4 the Feast of St. Francis of Assisi based upon this perspective and not address this issue ? -Lionel Andrades

The Catholic poliitical parties could object to Prof. Alberto Melloni's Bologna School interpretation of Vatican Council II financed by the present Leftist government . It is irrational, non traditional and unethical.It deceives the Italian people


 
The Catholic poliitical parties could object to Prof. Alberto Melloni's Bologna School interpretation of Vatican Council II financed by the present Leftist government . It is irrational, non traditional and unethical.It deceives the Italian people. -Lionel Andrades



The SSPX canonical issue is doctrinal said Pope Benedict. The SSPX and Pope Benedict can now affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise and the Council is traditional.The doctrinal issue is resolved.The SSPX does not have to choose between Vatican Council II and Tradition, it is no more either/or.

 The SSPX canonical issue is doctrinal said Pope Benedict. The SSPX and Pope Benedict can now affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise and the Council is traditional.The doctrinal issue is resolved.The SSPX does not have to choose between Vatican Council II and Tradition, it is no more either/or. .- Lionel Andrades

FRUITS OF MEDJUGORJE -Trailer

It's all in the mind. Some say LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II is implicit and for others it is explicit. For some it is invisible and for others- in their mind, it is physically visible.It is subjective for me and objective for you. If LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are hypothetical, theoretical and speculative only, the Conciliar Church is turned upside down. Since now the false premise, the false choice, is no more the norm.It is being changed. The norm would be LG 8 etc are always hypothetical.It would refer to invisible people in the present times,even though they referred to visible people for the Conciliar Fathers( Cushing, Rahner, Ratzinger etc) at Vatican Council II.

 It's all in the mind. Some say LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II is implicit and for others it is explicit. For some it is invisible and for others- in their mind, it is physically visible.It is subjective for me and objective for you.

If LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are hypothetical, theoretical and speculative only, the Conciliar Church is turned upside down. 

Since now the false premise, the false choice, is no more the norm.It is being changed. 

The norm would be LG 8 etc are always hypothetical.It would refer to invisible people in the present times,even though they referred to visible people for the Conciliar Fathers( Cushing, Rahner, Ratzinger etc) at Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

Fifty five years of drama is now over.Vatican Council II is ecclesiocentric. Time to celebrate.

 Fifty five years of drama is now over.Vatican Council II is ecclesiocentric. Time to celebrate. -Lionel Andrades

Not being granted canonical recognition because of Vatican Council II is now a joke. The Council is traditional when it is interpreted rationally. The obligation lies on the popes to affirm Tradition and the premise-free Council

 Not being granted canonical recognition because of Vatican Council II is now a joke. The Council is traditional when it is interpreted rationally.

The obligation lies on the popes to affirm Tradition and the premise-free Council. -Lionel Andrades

After 55 years we have a new paradigm on Vatican Council II. The liberal, Lefebvrist model is irrational and non traditional.The Council supports Fr. Leonard Feeney and St.Francis Xavier.In the future we go back to Church history with the only rational option.

 After 55 years we have a new paradigm on Vatican Council II. The liberal, Lefebvrist model is irrational and non traditional.The Council supports Fr. Leonard Feeney and St.Francis Xavier.In the future we go back to Church history with the only rational option. -Lionel Andrades

Kyrie eleison, Christe eleison - 31. Mladifest Medjugorje 05.08.2020 r,

The alleged radical traditionalists can now affirm Vatican Council II.We are not using the SSPX model.It's the liberals who have to go on the defensive.They cannot cite Vatican Council II any more by using the false premise.Since Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists when the false premise is avoided.

 The alleged radical traditionalists can now affirm Vatican Council II.We are not using the SSPX model.It's the liberals who have to go on the defensive.They cannot cite Vatican Council II any more by using the false premise.Since Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists when the false premise is avoided. -Lionel Andrades

Messaggio del 25 luglio 2020 a Marija - Medjugorje

  



Dear children! In this peaceless time  in which the devil is harvesting souls to draw them to himself, I am calling you to persevering prayer, so that in prayer you discover the God of love and hope. Little children,  take the Cross in your hands. May it be your encouragement for love to always win, in a special way now when the Cross and faith are rejected. You be a reflection and an example with your lives that faith and hope are still alive and a new world of peace is possible. I am with you and intercede for you before my Son, Jesus. Thank you for having responded to my call. 

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