When they say that we must do away with Vatican Council II, they simply have to re-interpret the Council without the false premise and so they do away with the false interpretation of the Council. It is so simple that it seems unbelievable.

 When they say that we must do away with Vatican Council II, they simply have to re-interpret the Council without the false premise and so they do away with the false interpretation of the Council.

It is so simple that it seems unbelievable.

For example, if Lumen Gentium 16 is a problem then it means look at LG 16 anew.

O.K someone can theoretically be saved outside the Church but in reality there is no such person known to us. So LG 16 does not contradict Tradition ( Feeneyite EENS, Athanasius Creed etc).It refers to an invisible case in 1965-2020.

Follow up with LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc.

Vatican Council II does not contradict St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine on the strict interpretation of EENS and there being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

Once we affirm the strict interpretation of EENS we are back to the old Mission theology, the old ecumenism of return and 16th century EENS of the missionaries of that time.

All this comes about without formally having to get rid of Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

Fr. Paul McDonald: The Social Reign of Christ beginning in the Family

Jesus must also be the center of our political life

 

Jesus must also be the center of our political life. -Lionel Andrades

How Fatima Third Secret Relates to Social Reign of Christ the King with Chris Ferrara..

The Social Reign of Christ the King can be seen based on Cushingite or Feeneyite theology, Vatican Council II with the false premise or without it- Scott Hahn, Ralph Martin, Chris Ferrara and Taylor Marshall interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism

 

Scott Hahn, Ralph Martin, Chris Ferrara and Taylor Marshall interpret Vatican Council II with  Cushingism. So there are exceptions to the Athansius Creed, extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Syllabus of Errors.When there are exceptions to Tradition then there are exceptions to traditional Mission. Why have mission when there is alleged known salvation, outside the Catholic Church ?

Similarly there will be exceptions to proclaiming the traditional Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics and the non separation of Church and State.

So they negate Christ as King over all national legislation.

Scott Hahn, Ralph Martin, Chris Ferrara and Taylor Marshall have a choice. They can affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise. So Lumen Gentium 16, for example, would not be a practical exception to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

In his recent book Ralph Martin does not say that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church and the rest of the world are going to Hell.

He does not make this direct statement. Since he cannot. He is a Cushingite. He uses a false premise to interpret Lumen Gentium 16 etc.

Similarly Scott Hahn does not say that all non Catholics are going to Hell and so there should be traditional mission knowing that people in general are on the way to Hell.

But Scott Hahn is a Cushingite. There are known exceptions for him, to the Great Commission.

So they all choose a theology which negates the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King and traditional Mission.

-Lionel Andrades

 

NOVEMBER 21, 2020

Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation : its proclamation depends upon the affirmation of traditional EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/11/social-reign-of-christ-king-in-all.html

NOVEMBER 21, 2020

A Church in Crisis - a talk by Ralph Martin : there can be two interpretations of Lumen Gentium 16 and the conclusion will be different

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/11/a-church-in-crisis-talk-by-ralph-martin_21.html

All these years the Lefebvrists have been supporting the liberals who in turn call them traditionalists. They are not traditionalists. They will not affirm Tradition without the false premise, without the New Theology

 All these years the Lefebvrists have been supporting the liberals who in turn call them traditionalists. They are not traditionalists.

They will not  affirm Tradition without the false premise, without the New Theology. -Lionel Andrades

The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) expelled Fr. Florian Abrahamowich to please the Jewish Left. Now if the SSPX priests start to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, without the New Theology, will they also be expelled ?

 The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) expelled Fr. Florian Abrahamowich to please the Jewish Left. Now if the SSPX priests start to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, without the New Theology, will they also be expelled ? - Lionel Andrades

I accept Vatican Council II and Lumen Gentium 8 which can only be hypothetical cases for us. This is common sense

 I accept Vatican Council II and Lumen Gentium 8  which can only be hypothetical cases for us. This is common sense. - Lionel Andrades

Those who die in other religions or for other religions are going to Hell at the time of death. Jesus will be the Judge

 Those who die in other religions or for other religions are going  to Hell at the time of death. Jesus will be the Judge. -Lionel Andrades

Other religions are not paths to salvation and so the national political Government should be Catholic

 

Other religions are not paths to salvation and so the national political Government should be Catholic. -Lionel Andrades

When it is held that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation: no visible exceptions, no known cases of non Catholics saved without the Sacraments, then to save souls from going to the fires of Hell, it is important that the national Government is Catholic. The Constitution could uphold the non separation of Church and State

 

When it is held that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation: no visible exceptions, no known cases of non Catholics saved without the Sacraments, then to save souls from going to the fires of Hell, it is important that the national Government is Catholic. The Constitution could uphold the non separation of Church and State.-Lionel Andrades

 

Lefebvrists who criticize the Mass, negatively interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, dogmas and Councils and have no denial.They also have no correction since they do not want to affirm the traditional strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and be persecuted. Now their theology is the same as the liberals

 Lefebvrists who criticize the Mass, negatively interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, dogmas and Councils and have no denial.They also have no correction since they do not want to affirm the traditional strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and be persecuted. Now their theology is the same as the liberals. -Lionel Andrades

The Lefebvrists are presenting a liberal version of the Catholic faith to Catholics and to the world

 The Lefebvrists are presenting a liberal version of the Catholic faith to Catholics and to the world.They use a false premise to interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II, Nicene Creed, Catechism of Pope Pius IX,Baltimore Catechism, Catechism of the Council of Trent etc. So there is a liberal and new interpretation which is the same as that of the priests of the past and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

They do not want to correct the error in public since then they need to affirm Feeneyite EENS.

The SSPX suspended Fr. Florian Abrahamowich in Italy they want to please the Jewish Left. Will the SSPX not affirm doctrine only to please the Left ? -Lionel Andrades