Fr. David Koonce, LC,Dean of Theology and Fr. Alex Yeung, LC, Dean of Philosophy, University Pontifical Regina Apostolorum, (UPRA), Rome use the false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents. So an artificial rupture is created with Catholic Tradition.It would be the same with the Grand Chancellor of UPRA, Fr.John Connor LC and the Rector Fr.José E. Oyarzún, L.C

Fr. David Koonce, LC,Dean of Theology and Fr. Alex Yeung, LC, Dean of Philosophy, University Pontifical Regina Apostolorum, (UPRA), Rome use the false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents. So an artificial rupture is created with Catholic Tradition.It would be the same with the Grand Chancellor of UPRA, Fr.John Connor LC and the Rector Fr.José E. Oyarzún, L.C.

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They do not use the rational model.

 




-Lionel Andrades

February 22, 2020

Italian Government finances Alberto Melloni's Bologna School with a million euros annually : it uses a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/t.html

 

February 22, 2020

Mons. Marco Gnarvi at the Vicariate, Rome does not use the rational model to interpret Vatican Council II but chooses the irrational version.He is the Parish Priest at the church Santa Maria in Trastevere, Rome. In inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism he uses the false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II. This is a fake version. It's use is unethical.He projects Vatican Council II without the rational interpretation of the Council. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/mons-marco-gnarvi-at-vicariate-rome-he.html

 

February 22, 2020

Croatian Government which opposes Freemasonry still officially interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/croatian-government-which-opposes.html

 

February 22, 2020

Andrea Torneilli and the Vatican Press Office by now know that they interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational model and not the rational one.Pope Francis is probably informed and he must be saying that that we cannot go back to Tradition and the past and yet we cannot interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. We cannot irrationally interpret the Creeds and Catechism. There cannot be a false profession of faith( Professio Fidei). 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/andrea-torneillli-and-vatican-press.html

 

 

 

 

 

I have often heard it said that the Church cannot go back, the Church cannot go to the past, but if you use the rational model to interpret Vatican Council II you take the Catholic Church back to the past,It's with one simple action.We are back to Tradition. It is so simple that people at first do not believe it.The innovation over the last 81 years with the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO), ends.

I have often heard it said that the Church cannot go back, the Church cannot go to the past, but if you use the rational model to interpret Vatican Council II you take the Catholic Church back to the past,It's with one simple action.We are back to Tradition. It is so simple that people at first do not believe it.The innovation over the last 81 years with the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO), ends.

  

   

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-Lionel Andrades

Jewish Left organisation approves irrational premise, inference and conclusion for the interpretation of Vatican Council II

The Jewish Left organisation which gave the pope a prize recently have asked him to curb extremenism and they mean, I suppose, Catholics should not be allowed to interpret Vatican Council II with the rational model.Otherwise there will be a return to Catholic Tradition. 

It may be mentioned that Pope Francis is not allowed to meet orthodox Jewish rabbis and organisations, which do not approve gay marriages, abortion and other things Satanic. If there was an orthodox rabbi visiting Rome, who sought an audience with Pope Francis, there would be a big agitation  from the liberals rabbis and their leftist media.In the past, such visits by rabbis,have been opposed by representatives of the approved, Jewish Left Synagogue in Rome.

Here is the model of Vatican Council II for the Catholic Church, according to them.

    

  

  

This is not an approved model.

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 With this rational model, the  Vatican  would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.

ATHANASIUS CREED

'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...'

With this rational model they  would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 

-Lionel Andrades

 

John Allen Jr and Crux are using the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II. This is unethical.

 
John Allen Jr and Crux are using the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II. This is unethical. 

  

 

  

There is a rational choice.

 

 

 

-Lionel Andrades

February 22, 2020

Andrea Torneilli and the Vatican Press Office by now know that they interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational model and not the rational one.Pope Francis is probably informed and he must be saying that that we cannot go back to Tradition and the past and yet we cannot interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. We cannot irrationally interpret the Creeds and Catechism. There cannot be a false profession of faith( Professio Fidei). 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/andrea-torneillli-and-vatican-press.html

The Associated Press, Il Messaggero and other mainstream media in Italy use the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II when they really have a rational choice.

The Associated Press, Il Messaggero and other mainstream media in Italy use the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II when they really have a rational choice.

 

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 With this rational model, the  Vatican  would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.

ATHANASIUS CREED

'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...'

With this rational model they  would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 

 

III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.

Now Vatican Council II interpreted with his  irrational premise, inference and conclusion contradicts the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 

With the rational model, Vatican Council II would not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X.

-Lionel Andrades

Mons. Marco Gnarvi at the Vicariate, Rome does not use the rational model to interpret Vatican Council II but chooses the irrational version.He is the Parish Priest at the church Santa Maria in Trastevere, Rome. In inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism he uses the false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II. This is a fake version. It's use is unethical.He projects Vatican Council II without the rational interpretation of the Council.

Mons. Marco Gnarvi at the Vicariate, Rome, does not use the rational model to interpret Vatican Council II but chooses the irrational version.He is the Parish Priest at the church Santa Maria in Trastevere, Rome. In inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism he uses the false premise, inference and conclusion  to interpret Vatican Council II. This is a fake version. It's use is unethical.He projects Vatican Council II without the rational interpretation of the Council.

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 With this rational model, the  Vatican  would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.

ATHANASIUS CREED

'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...'

With this rational model they  would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 

 

III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.

Now Vatican Council II interpreted with his  irrational premise, inference and conclusion contradicts the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. 

With the rational model, Vatican Council II would not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X.

-Lionel Andrades