(20:40) Vesti
provocanti sono adulterio - p. Amorth
Thursday, July 15, 2021
Vesti provacanti sono adulterio - p. Amorth
We have to stop interpreting Vatican Council II like the liberals, Lefebvrists, Thucs and Feeneyites did over the years.We have a choice.
We have to stop interpreting Vatican Council II like the liberals, Lefebvrists, Thucs and Feeneyites did over the years.We have a choice.If we look at LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as hypothetical cases in 2021, the Council does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.All these years LG 8, LG14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc were being seen as exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors.So it was implied that LG 8 etc were not hypothetical. Since hypothetical and invisible cases which do not exist in the present times, cannot be objective exceptions to Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors etc).This is common sense.
Similarly since 1949 it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire (BOD)
and invincible ignorance(I.I) were objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.This
was false. BOD and I.I were interpreted by the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney, with the fake premise, confusing what was hypothetical as being non hypothetical. We can correct this mistake today.
Una Voce International and the Latin Mass Societies can also correct this same mistake made by Michael Davies, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops.
Fr.Leonard Feeney
was a traditionalist who did not interpret EENS with the common error of the
popes since Pius XII to Francis.He would not say that invisible cases of BOD and I.I were visible.
When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally there is no more a
parallel Church, we are back to Tradition. This is a disappointment for Bishop Robert Barron and his friends at
the National Catholic Reporter, Crux, America,The Tablet U.K, Commonweal
etc,.He once called them up to deal with the extremist traditionalists.Now he has discovered that if he interprets Vatican Council II rationally, without
his common fake premise, he goes back to the ecclesiology of G.K Chesterton, Cardinal
Newman and St.Thomas Aquinas whom he quotes often.But he does not want to
interpret Magisterial documents rationally.In the past there were extremists for him.
He would like to recommend Chesterton but not affirm the exclusivist
ecclesiology of the Catholic Church of Aquinas,Newman and Chesterton.
A few years back Thomas Williams at Breitbart News,wrote an article for
The National Catholic Reporter on the glories of the Catholic Church of the
past.He cited the work of the great saints.
I posted a comment on the NCR saying all these saints held the strict
interpretation of EENS, and I wrote a piece on my blog.He pulled down that
report.
He is not going to affirm Vatican Council II rationally and
affirmTradition.-Lionel Andrades
I have been saying on this blog that if we simply interpret LG 8,LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as being hypothetical cases only, the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes
I have been saying on this blog that if we simply interpret LG 8,LG
14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as being hypothetical
cases only, the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes.
Without this change, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are commonly
interpreted as non hypothetical, objective people, non Catholics, saved outside
the Church without ‘faith and baptism’(AG 7). So they become exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of
Errors of Pope Pius IX, and the rest of Tradition.
Now when the French bishops criticize the Latin Mass and the old
ecclesiology, they have to see Vatican Council II, with LG 8 etc not being
hypothetical cases in the present times(1965-2021). In this way there is a parallel Church with Tradition.
This is public deception, it is unethical.It is political, supported by
the Left, which opposes Catholic Tradition.
So if Le Pen announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted
rationally and without deliberate confusion, the parallel Church starts
crumbling.
The non separation of Church and State can be proclaimed to save souls
from going to Hell, when the old ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church returns.
Doctrinally there would be no rupture with the past.So with the Council
supporting Tradition, collegiality, ecumenism and religious liberty would no more be an issue. There can once again be the proclamation of the Social Reign of
Christ the King in all political legislation.-Lionel Andrades
The pontifical and secular universities interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so get funds from liberal Italian and U.S organisations
The pontifical and secular universities interpret Vatican Council II
with a false premise and so get funds from liberal Italian and U.S organisations.
The Franciscan universities and educational institutuions in Italy are all
interpreting Vatican Council II with the fake premise to create a rupture with
extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and the traditional ecclesiocentrism of St.
Francis of Assisi, St. Bonaventure and the Franciscans over the centuries.So their funding is approved by the Leftist government in Italy.
German theologians approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger are still
offering courses on line at the Pontifical John Lateran University Rome and the
Pontificum Regina Apostolorum University, Rome.They interpret Vatican
Council II with the fake premise and get funds from the organisations in Italy and Germany.
The Legion of Christ universities in Rome get government and non government
grants and scholarships from the Vatican.Since they interpret Vatican Council
II and other Magisterial documents with a fake premise.This creates the politically correct artificial
rupture with Tradition.They make the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the
Athanasius Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus obsolete.Without this deception they would not be approved by Leftist
organisations.Faculty and students who are not part of this deception cannot
remain at the university.
Since I do not interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with the fake premise I
cannot study theology or philosophy at the Regina Apostolorum University,
Rome,nor at the Angelicum.Neither can I be a seminarian at the Pontificio
Internationale Maria Mater Ecclesia seminary, Rome,of the Legion of Christ.
It is the same policy at other pontifical universities and seminaries in other
parts of Europe under the European Economic Commission.
Pontifical universities in Rome like the Jesuit Gregorian University,are financed and supported by the Leftist government in Italy, and leftist
organisations since the faculty interpret Vatican Council II with the false
premise, inference and conclusion.This will create a rupture with the Syllabus of
Errors of Pope Pius IX.
Even the Redemptorist Fathers at their university in Rome are not allowed to
affirm EENS and the salvation doctrines of the founder of their religious
community.Since they want to continue to receive funding from government and non
government sources.
They have to use the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion to
interpret Vatican Council II, EENS, the Creeds and Catechisms.They have to
approve ‘the development of doctrine’ creatd with an irrationality.
In Austria the teaching faculties at the Catholic universities and colleges in
Vienna, still interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise even
after being informed.This is necessary to collect grants and scholarships
from government and non government agencies.So they are politically correct
with the Left and do away with Catholic Tradition.This is approved by Pope
Benedict and Pope Francis.
The Russell Berry Foundation has been putting big money into the Angelicum
University, Rome since the Dominican faculty interpret hypothetical cases,
mentioned in Unitatitis Redintigratio, Decree on Ecumenism Vatican Council
II,as being non hypothetical, objective examples of known salvation outside the
Church in the present times. So the old ecumenism of return is made obsolete.
The American Dean of Theology at the Angelicum University would be unable to
talk basic- theology since she has to use the fake premise to interpret Vatican
Council II and EENS.Her teaching job depends upon this. So the Dominican
faculty at the Angelicum keep receiving grants, fellowships, stipends etc from
pro-Left organisations.The New Ecumenism at the University of St. Thomas
Aquinas, Rome, is pegged upon the false premise,inference and conclusion used
in the interpretation of Unitatis Redintigratio, Vatican Council II.
The pontifical and secular universities are interpreting Vatican Council II
with a false premise and so are getting funds from liberal Italian and U.S organisations.- Lionel Andrades
Siamo eletti di Dio, figli di Dio - Don Ambrogio Villa
The FSSP is going along with the French bishops and accepting their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II to create a parallel Church, politically approved by the Left.
The FSSP is going along with the French bishops and accepting
their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II to create a parallel
Church, politically approved by the Left.
Similiarly they had accepted Summorusm Pontificum issued by Pope
Benedict, maintaining the irrational interpretation of the Council.
So when Pope Francis makes an announcement on the Latin Mass,
maintaining the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II with a false
premise,the FSSP will go along.
Their Superior General approves the concelebration of Mass with
the diocesan priests and the interpretation of Vatican Council Ii with the fake
premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.
I know that Fr. Joseph Kramer, the Rector of the FSSP church in
Rome at the time of Summorum Pontificum would not affirm the strict
interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and would support
the liberals.It was the same with the other FSSP priests here. They would offer
the Latin Mass with the new eccclesiology based upon Vatican Council II,
interpreted with the fake premise.
If you go for the Latin Mass at the FSSP church in Rome know that
they are interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise and are
changing the understanding of the Syllabus of Errors, the Athanasius Creed and
16th century EENS.So when the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creeds are changed, along with that of the
Catechisms,it is a mortal sin of faith. The FSSP agree with what I am saying
here. There has been no denial.It is the same with Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke and Fr. John Zuhlsdorf when they offer the Latin Mass in Rome.
They agree with me. They agree that they are using a fake premise to
re-interpret the baptism of desire and
invincible ignorance just like in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the
Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney.
They agree that they interpret unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) as
being known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times(2021).
They are politically correct with the Left. They follow Cardinal Ratzinger and
Fr. Luiz Ladaria sj in two documents of the International Theological
Commission, Vatican.
They agree that they are in heresy and schism with the past Magisterium but politically correct on Vatican Council II, like the popes since Paul VI.
They say that they interpret the Council like Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School,financed by the leftist Government in Italy.-Lionel Andrades