The USCCB bishops are keeping things under wraps. So they are not opposing Wikipedia and the Synods with Vatican Council II (rational): Millions of Catholics are misinformed via the Internet

 

Millions of people are being misinformed about the Catholic Church through Wikipedia. With Cushingism, Wikipedia projects Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. If Wikipedia interpreted Vatican Council II rationally the Council (AG 7, LG 14) would be in harmony with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Fourth Lateran Council, 1215).This is a major error on Wikipedia. 

Today Catholics do not have to interpret Vatican Council II like Wikipedia. They have a rational option. They must not interpret invisible cases of LG 16 etc as being visible persons in 2023 saved outside the Catholic Church. This is Wikipedia’s mistake.Wikipedia does not mention that the change in doctrine and theology and revelation comes only with Cushingism i.e the Council is interpreted with a fake premise.

 Support for aggiornamento won out over resistance to change, and as a result the sixteen magisterial documents produced by the council proposed significant developments in doctrine and practice: an extensive reform of the liturgy; a renewed theology of the Church, of revelation and of the laity; and new approaches to relations between the Church and the world, to ecumenism, to non-Christian religions.. -Vatican Council II (Wikipedia)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council

We can affirm Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 in harmony with the Council of Florence (1442) on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and not project invisible cases of LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being visible exceptions for EENS

This was not known to Fr. William Most, Jeff Mirus, EWTN and Catholic Culture/Trinity Communications. They have posted a Cushingite report titled, The Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney’. Vatican Council II is made  a rupture with Tradition (EENS, Athanasius Creed etc) by confusing what is invisible (LG 8 etc) as being visible (exceptions for EENS etc).

This is political-Left. It is not Catholic.

EWTN APOLOGISTS POLITICAL

The apologists and journalists associated with EWTN are obligated to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to keep their job. They are not allowed to affirm Feeneyite EENS.

Fr.Mitch Pacwa, Raymond Arroyo, Edward Pentin and others are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally, even after being informed. So they are not criticized by Reuters and the Associated Press in the USA.

Millions of Catholics are being duped by EWTN for political reasons.

Catholic Answers admit that they are rejecting the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. They can only do this by interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.

EWTN’s coverage of pilgrimages to Israel and Catholic events in the Holy Land are biased. Only those people are projected who will not cite AG 7 and LG 14 and say all Jews and Muslims, need faith and the baptism of water for salvation from Hell and there are no known exceptions in LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc. 

To save their souls from Hell all need to be Catholic. Teresa Tomeo will not say this. 

On EWTN there were no discussions on Ratisbonne with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. There are no EWTN programs which say that the Church’s exclusivist ecclesiology has not changed with Vatican Council II (rational). So there is no change in faith and morals.Fr. James Martin sj cannot innovate on homosexual sins.

There is no kerygma without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church (LG 14 etc).

The USCCB bishops are keeping things under wraps. So they are not opposing Wikipedia and the Synods with Vatican Council II (rational).

They allow Wikipedia to continue with their present propaganda on Vatican Council II. Jimmy Akins gets a monthly salary it is reported. So he will not correct the mistake on Wikipedia. Michael Warsaw has to protect his position, too.    - Lionel Andrades

UNE 13, 2017

Wikipedia is misleading on Catholic theology

Wikipedia is misleading on 'Salvation outside the church'. It interprets the subject with Cushingism instead of rational Feeneyism.

Salvation outside the church-Catholic Theology- WIKIPEDIA

Main article: Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

The Catholic Church teaches that it is the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church founded by Jesus. Concerning non-Catholics, the Catechism of the Catholic Church has this to say:

"'Outside the Church there is no salvation'

Reformulated positively, this statement means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Lionel: This is a Cushingite line in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 846). So when reading it a discerning Catholic has to note that even though all salvation theoretically comes from Christ through the Church which is his Body, every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441).Concretely every one needs to enter the Church to avoid Hell. 'All' need 'faith and baptism' for 'salvation' (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).So CCC 846 here does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century. Neither does it contradict the understanding of EENS according to Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Centers of his time, in Boston.This would be a Feeneyite way of reading this passage.

Here Wikipedia like Cardinal Ratzinger assumes invisible cases of the baptism of desire are visible exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS. This is an error.It is also the irrational theology of Cushingism.

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Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Lionel:Yes it is not aimed at those who through no fault of their own, who do not know Christ and his Church and are saved. They are not known to us in particular cases. So they are irrelevant to the dogma EENS. They are not exceptions to all needing to enter the Church for salvation in 2017.

Wikpedia, the liberals,traditionalists and Cardinal Ratzinger assumed there were known cases of people in invincible ignorance who were saved.This was also the error at the time of Vatican Council II. They made a philosophical mistake. Invisible people cannot be exceptions to the dogma EENS.

So this passage can be read in two ways.Invisible cases are invisible or they are invisible? This must be asked. Since this decides the interpretation of CCC 846.

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Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.

Lionel: Is this a reference to invisible or physically visible cases in 2017? So they obviously are not relevant to the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENS.

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'Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men.'"^[149]

Lionel: Since invisible cases are not exceptions to the dogma teaching on all needing to be members of the Church, there is a need to evangelize with a different doctrine, then the present Cushingite one.In the present times all non Catholics with no known exceptions are oriented to Hell, without 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church.So we conduct mission knowing this.This was how the saints too were missionary.They held the traditional teaching on all needing to enter the Church with no exceptions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_theology

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SUBSISTENCE- ECCLESIOLOGY-WIKIPEDIA

SUBSISTENCE IS THE DOCTRINE THAT THE CHURCH OF CHRIST "SUBSISTS IN" THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE DOCTRINE IS IN CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS PHRASING OF MYSTICI CORPORIS CHRISTI THAT THE CHURCH OF CHRIST "IS" (EST) THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ALTHOUGH SOME THEOLOGIANS HAVE INTERPRETED THE PHRASE TO BE A RUPTURE WITH THE PREVIOUS TRADITION.

Subsistit in is a term taken from Lumen Gentium paragraph 8:

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him, although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure.

Lionel: The many elements of sanctification and grace mentioned in Lumen Gentium 8 again comes from Cushingism. These are 'zero cases'. We do not know of any person who will be saved or has been saved outside the Church, without 'faith and baptism'.

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The proper interpretation of subsistence has been controversial since the Second Vatican Council introduced the phrase; the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has issued various interpretations confirmed by the pope, while some dissident theologians put forth more radical interpretations.

Lionel: It is only controversial if you assume there is known salvation outside the Church. There is noknown salvation outside the Church.

So again when reading Vatican Council II or the Catechism(1994) we have to keep in mind that invisible cases are not visible, they are invisible. I call this approach Feeneyism.

Wikipedia's approach is Cushingite. Invisible cases are visible. So these visible cases of the baptiism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to the old ecclesiology and so now a new theology.A new ecclesiology has been created upon which depends the new ecumenism.

When I refer to Feeneyism it should not be confused with Wikipedia's explanation of Feeneyism. For me Wikpedia's Feeneyism is really Cushingism.It is a rupture with the dogma EENS as it was known for example in the 16th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ecclesiology

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FEENEYISM-WIKIPEDIA

Wikipedia says:

Feeneyism is the doctrinal position associated with Leonard Feeney (1897–1978), a Jesuit priest and founder of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, who advocated a strict interpretation of the doctrine extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation").

Lionel: Yes there can only the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS since there are no visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.So there are no exceptions to the 'strict interpretation' of EENS.

Fr. Feeney was a Roman Catholic priest and a member of the Jesuits. The Jesuit order dismissed Fr. Feeney in 1949 on account of disobedience, and on 4 February 1953, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (known then as The Holy Office) declared him excommunicated "on account of grave disobedience to Church Authority, being unmoved by repeated warnings".^[1] He was reconciled to the Church in 1972.^[2] Fr. Feeney co-founded the group known as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeneyism

Lionel: The Jesuits dismissed him since for them invisible cases were visible. It was the same for the cardinals at the Holy Office in 1949. Now we realize that it was the magisterium which had made an objective mistake and not Fr. Leonard Feeney.He was not saying invisible cases are visible.
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FR.LEONARD FEENEY -WIKIPEDIA

Father Leonard Edward Feeney (February 18, 1897 – January 30, 1978)^[1] was a U.S. Jesuit priest, poet, lyricist, and essayist.

He articulated and defended a strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation"). He took the position that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved.

Lionel: 'He took the position that baptism of blood and desire  are unavailing' since there are no such cases in our reality, they are unknown cases. We cannot give any one the baptism of desire like we can administer the baptism of water.No one in the past could have seen someone in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.But for the liberals the baptism of desire was an exception to the dogma EENS.It was an example of known salvation outside the Church. This was their false premise and conclusion.

This is what lay Catholics have been taught about Catholic theology through Wikipedia and the magisterium instead of correcting Wikipedia supports the deception.--Lionel Andrades 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search?q=Wikipedia

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MAY 19, 2023

Wikipedia's entry on Feeneyism is irrational and political. It is not Catholic. Neither is it ethical.

 Wikipedia’s entry on Feneeyism is false. Feeneyites do not reject the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. They instead interpret them as being hypothetical cases only. This is something obvious. They reject the baptism of desire etc as being an exception for extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Thoeretical cases of the  baptism of desire are not objective exceptions, or relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They do not exist in our reality.

 Fr. Leonard Feeney interpreted EENS with no exceptions and so did the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442) which defined EENS. These two Councils were ‘Feeneyite’.

Also for Feeneyites, Vatican Council II does not contradict the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors or the dogma EENS. Since LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer always, to only hypothetical cases.This is interpreting Vatican Council II rationally.It is not confusing, what is invisible as being physically visible and then making false inferences.This is what Wikipedia does . If someone is saved outside the Catholic Church it can only be known to God. The norm for salvation is Catholic faith and the baptism of water (AG 7, LG 14 etc).- Lionel Andrades

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JULY 5, 2016

The ordinary magisterium has replaced the traditional Feeneyite theology with irrational and non traditional Cushingite theology :Wikipedia's errors on EENS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/the-ordinary-magisterium-has-replaced.html

AUGUST 3, 2015

Wikipedia and Most Holy Trinity,Florida sedevacantist seminary make the sameerror  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/wikipedia-and-most-holy-trinity-usa.html

Wikipedia implies that the baptism of desire and blood are explicit so are exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/wikipedia-implies-that-baptism-of.html

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NOVEMBER 20, 2012

WIKIPEDIA SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN DO NOT PROTEST

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/wikipedia-says-vatican-council-ii.html

NOVEMBER 16, 2012 

CATHOLIC TRADITIONALISTS DO NOT CHALLENGE THE ERRORS ON WIKIPEDIA SINCE THEY ASSUME VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS 

HTTP://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.IT/2012/11/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONALISTS-DO-NOT.HTML

JULY 11, 2012

FEENEYISM IS IN ACCORD WITH MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/feeneyism-is-in-accord-with-magisterial.html

JULY 11, 2012

WIKIPEDIA TELLS CATHOLICS WHAT IS HERESY FOR THEM AND THE VATICAN NOR THE SSPX ISSUES A CORRECTION

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/wikipedia-tells-catholics-what-is.html

JULY 10, 2012

Fr.Leonard Feeney, Wikipedia and Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/frleonard-feeney-wikipedia-and-vatican.html

SEPTEMBER 24, 2011

APPEAL TO CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH, VATICAN: IT’S TIME TO CLARIFY THE BOSTON HERESY OF RICHARD CUSHING

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/09/appeal-to-congregation-for-doctrine-of.html

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Ghassan Chahine from Lebanon | Founder of Sancta Maria Network