Something obvious

 

I interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. Archbishop Thomas C.Gullickson does the same.

I interpret the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance with the Rational Premise. Fr.Stefano Visintin OSB does the same. He is the former Rector of the Benedictine University of St.Anselm Rome.

There are no known cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance in the present times. This is something obvious said Fr.Aldo Rossi, Prior, Society of St.Pius X, Albano, Italy.

There are no literal cases of the baptism of desire Bishop Athanasius Schneider told Dr.Taylor Marshall.

There are no explicit cases of St.Thomas Aquinas’ implicit baptism of desire confirmed Dr.Taylor Marshall.Cardinal Ladaria the Prefect of the Congregation for thr Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican must be asked to affirm Vatican Council II with there being no practical exceptions for extra ecclesiam nulla salus, also with no exceptions.-Lionel Andrades

JANUARY 28, 2022

Candidates for President of Italy do not affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics since they do not interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise

Outside the Church there is no salvation is the teaching of Vatican Council II and it is not just a personal opinion.

Ad Gentes 7 in Vatican Council II says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation.It  is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church n.846 under the title outside the Church there is no salvation. It tells us that 1) all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church and 2) all need to be members of the Catholic Church with faith and baptism for salvation.

The Council Fathers (1965), some of them, made a mistake when they assumed that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc were exceptions for the past strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They are not exceptions since LG 8, LG 16 etc refer always to only hypothetical cases.

So why were all these hypothetical cases mentioned at Vatican Council II? Since they were assumed to be non hypothetical and objective exceptions, for the past traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Church. But if someone is not there, if he does not exist in our reality,how can he be an exception. If in a box of oranges there is one apple then that apple is an exception since it is different, but also because it exists there in that box.

So when this error in Vatican Council , confusing what is invisible as being visible and what is implicit as being explicit, is acknowledged and avoided, they are not practical exceptions mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II, for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.There are no exceptions. The Athanasius Creed has no exceptions in Vatican Council II.The Council supports the Syllabus of Errors with Ad Gentes 7.

The Church still teaches today in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, like in the times of the Jesuits in the Middle Ages that in Heaven there are only Catholics. The Catholic Church is the continuation of the Jewish religion,the New Testament follows the Old Testament in the Bible.

Catholics are the new people of God, the elect (Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II). They have the Promised Jewish Messiah, the Son of God, they have the Ark of the Covenant in the tabernacle with the Eucharist, they have the Sacrifice in the Holy Mass in the new temple, the church, they have an eternal covenant which Jesus made with his Sacrifice. They are part of Christ in his Mystical Body the Church when they do not live in mortal sins of faith and morals. Absolution in the Confessional is needed.

JESUS CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM POLITICS

Jesus cannot be separated from the Church or the Kingdom of God. Neither can Jesus be separated from national and international politics on earth.

In Italy names have been put forward in Parliament for the election of a President. None of them support the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics, with the non separation of the Catholic Church and the State.

The political parties of the left and right are secular and not Catholic. The center right political parties please God to an extent and those of the Left, Satan, but the center right in Italy is not Catholic.

Catholics must only vote for political candidates and parties who support the Social Reign of Christ the King in all society (Quas Primas). It is a sin to vote for a pro-abortion or pro-LGBT candidates or political parties e.g. Partito Democratico, Cinque Stelle etc.

SOCIAL REIGN OF CHRIST THE KING

The center right political parties in Italy are not part of the Catholic Church which includes the saints and martyrs and those Catholics who are in Purgatory and Heaven. The political parties must affirm Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and then they will be supporting the traditional teaching on outside the Church there is no salvation upon which is pegged the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State.

Marcello Pera one of the Presidential candidates along with Pope Benedict approved a book supporting a secular state based upon the interpretation of Vatican Council II with the False Premise. The False Premise creates false exceptions for the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. So the Social Reign of Christ the King cannot be proclaimed. Since there are alleged exceptions there can also not be traditional mission.

So to get back to Tradition it is important that the political parties, at least those of the center right, interpret Vatican Council II and all Magisterial Documents with the Rational Premise i.e invisible people are invisible, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc refer to invisible cases in 2022.-Lionel Andrades

https://www.corriere.it/politica/21_dicembre_22/quirinale-folla-18-candidati-con-variabile-franchi-tiratori-c9d42002-6366-11ec-aca7-2b79d521d390.shtml

https://www.corriere.it/politica/elezioni-presidente-repubblica-2022/notizie/quirinale-rosa-nomi-centrodestra-chi-sono-casellati-moratti-pera-nordio-tremonti-667f6d62-7dd4-11ec-8b49-c4c27e1fecd7.shtml

Signore Gesù il processo della Tua conversione è la via della liberazione da ogni schiavitù

All the books on Vatican Council II being promoted by Bishop Kevin Rhoades, President of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, are written with the Fake Premise.

 

All the books on Vatican Council II being promoted by Bishop Kevin Rhoades, President of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, are written with the Fake Premise.
Catholics in the USA today could affirm the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors since there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict them. The Rational Premise (invisible cases are invisible) has to be used to interpret the Council. The US National Catechetical Offices and the Bishops Conference is still using a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and their priority is political.-Lionel Andrades

AUGUST 29, 2021

Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinnal Committee, interprets Lumen Gentium 14 ( baptism of desire) with a false premise. Bishop Athanasius Schnedier and Dr. Taylor Marshall avoid it

 

NOVEMBER 9, 2020

Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise. His error is there on line as proof.No one questions him about it

 Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise. His error is there on line as proof.No one questions him about it. -Lionel Andrades

AUGUST 29, 2021

Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall say there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire but the German Synodal path is based upon there being literal cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14) in the present times

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/bishop-athanasius-schneider-and-dr_29.html

JUNE 29, 2020

USCCB Doctrinal Committee wants SBC to interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases being considered practical exceptions to EENS

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Doctrinal Committee along with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Diocese of Manchester,USA  want the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire in the Diocese of Manchester, USA to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with hypothetical and invisible cases being considered practical examples of salvation outside the Church and objective exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.

With this irrational premise a false rupture is created with Church Magisterial documents, which support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and  which is opposed by the ADL, SPLC and the rest of the Jewish Left.
I have mentioned in a previous blog post that Catholic religious and laity need to formally challenge the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Doctrinal Committee on its bad decisions with reference to Vatican Council II.

Bishop Stephen Brady,  a member of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee intepreted Vatican Council II with the false premise and inference.He then excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco, since he rejected  Vatican Council II with the error.

Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the present Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee interpreted Vatican Council II with the irrationality and did not affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.He then supported a 'hit website' along with Jim Likoudis of Catholics United for the Faith, Steubenville, that maligned Robert Sungenis.The issue was theology.

Bishop Michael F. Olson, Bishop of Fort Worth, did not interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with magisterial documents, which support the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.Instead he placed restrictions on the Fischer More College, allowing it to collapse.There were many Catholic studens enrolled there.He wanted them all to accept Vatican Council II confusing what is invisible as being visible and so creating a false break with Tradition.

The public issue was Vatican Council II. An injustice was done by the bishop and the CDF, to the faculty and students of the college.

 

According to reports there was opposition to Fr. Nicholas Gruner offering Holy Mass at the college since he rejected Vatican Council II( interpreted with the false premise).While the FSSP priests like the bishops accepted Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise.So they supported a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.The bishop wanted the traditionalists to interpret Vatican Council II with the irrationality and only then they could offer Holy Mass in his diocese.
Bishop Robert McManus, bishop of Worcester, could be asked to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and affirm EENS like the St. Benedict Center, Still River, MA. He could also appeal for the restrictions on the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, N.H in the Diocese of Manchester, where Bishop Peter Libasci is the bishop, be removed.The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in Manchester would be willing to affim Vatican Council II without the false premise, since it would not be in conflict with Feeneyite EENS.
Vatican Council II supports the strict interpretation of EENS according to the St. Benedict Centers of Fr. Leonard Feeney,Sr.Catherine Clark Goddard MICM and Brother Francis Malus MICM and the Catholic professors wrongly dismissed by Boston College for their Catholic beliefs.The Jesuits at Boston College must admit that the Catholic professors there was discrimination against the dismissed Catholic professors.
Also the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) and Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT) priests and LCWR religious sisters, in Boston and New England, must be asked to affirm Vatican Council II(rational version) before they offer/attend  Holy Mass in Latin or English.

Why should Brother Andre Marie MICM Prior at the St. Benedict Center, N.H state that CCC 847-848 ( invincible ignorance) is an objective exception to Feeneyite EENS?

Why should he state that unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) are unknown exceptions to EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century?

This is an error of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee.

It is also an error expressed by Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Roberto Dei Mattei and the traditionalists, in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS.They also use the false premise like the bishops of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee.
-Lionel Andrades

JUNE 29, 2020

Catholic religious and laity need to formally challenge the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Doctrinal Committee on its bad decisions with reference to Vatican Council II.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/catholic-religious-and-laity-need-to.html

JUNE 29, 2020

Wikipedia needs to correct their ideological report on Fr. Leonard Feeney.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/wikipedia-needs-to-correct-their.html

Signore Gesù spesso sentiamo nei Vangeli che Tu hai guarito gli ammalati che hanno portato da Te..

Ireland is no more missionary since the Irish Catholic Bishops Conference uses the False and not Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.It is official and public with no denial.

 

Ireland is no more missionary since the Irish Catholic Bishops Conference uses the False and not Rational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.It is official and public with no denial.-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 18, 2021

Young Vocations supporting traditional exclusivist Catholic Mission based upon Vatican Councl II ( rational )

 

Young vocations for the religious life must know that based upon Vatican Council II ( rational ) the Church still teaches an exclusivist ecumenism and an ecclesiocentric inter-religious dialogue, which is part of traditional mission, like in the 16th century. The Church still is traditional as in the 12 the century since Vatican Council II (rational) is traditional.

Young Catholics must know that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell without faith and the baptism of water and there are no practical examples of the baptism of desire (LG 14), invincible ignorance (LG 16), a good conscience (LG 16), seeds of the Word which save (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions which save (NA 2) etc.Practically we cannot know of any one being saved outside the Church. The norm for salvation is faith and the baptism of water (John 3:5, Mark 16:16 etc). So we have the Great Commission to go out into the whole world and proclaim the Good News – about the Sacrifice of the One who saves from Hell. He saves those who believe in Him alone and who live his traditional teachings in the Catholic Church, His Mystical Body, outside of which there is no salvation.

Since there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II ( rational) interpreted with the Rational Premise, inter-religious dialogue and ecumenism are part of the Great Commission and Catholic Mission.

We are a missionary Church. This is not the New Evangelization of the popes Benedict and Francis and the Jewish Left. Their New Evangelization has its foundation in Vatican Council II interpreted with a Fake Premise. So there are alleged practical exceptions for extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors which the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican, reject. So for the CDF the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church is made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the common Fake Premise.

They support a vague Christocentrism instead of the traditional Ecclesiocentrism, as they work for the creation of a new one world religion, without mortal sins of adultery and fornication along with liberals in other Christian religions, which condone sins like divorce, contraception, abortion etc.It will be a false Church with a false image of Jesus which will make people who are slaves to sin and Satan, comfortable. The popes are expected to approve it and call it ‘magisterial’.

But we know that with Vatican Council II (rational) the Catholic Church still has its old ecclesiocentric ecclesiology, irrespective of what everyone else around us is saying and doing, within and outside the Church.The Catholic Church still is Missiionary with the same traditional theology and doctrines of the missionaries in the Middle Ages.-Lionel Andrades

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2018

The Leftist mission program being sold via the Internet in e-mail exchanges by the Urbaniana Pontifical Univesity Rome interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.

The Urbaniana Pontifical University has a course on Mission which all good Catholics should avoid.The course is approved by the Jewish Left who would otherwise oppose in public, traditional Catholic mission.

The Leftist mission program being sold via the Internet in e-mail exchanges, interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.So there is known salvation outside the Church for the liberal-left faculty.The professors there, approved by the Left and ecclesiastical Masonry, like Sandra Mazzolini, assume hypothetical and unknown people are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.So the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) becomes a thing of the past.

So even though the facuty at Urbaniana, and at some of the other pontifical universities, know the irrational premise and inference they use to put aside traditional Mission doctrine and theology, they have to continue with the deception for ideological reasons.

The Leftist Mission program does not state that Protestants and Orthodox Christians are outside the Church and outside of salvation.Instead it calls for Mission based solely on our belief in Jesus and our baptism.

So there are joint mission programs with the other Christian churches.

According to traditional Mission all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they enter and remain in the Catholic Church as members.There are no known exceptions.Practically there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS. This is something obvious.

Traditional Mission was based on the past exclusive ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.There were no known exceptions.The speculative possibility of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) was recognised.But they were not considered objective exceptions to EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.

Mission at the Urbaniana University is based on the Cushingite interpretation of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II.The liberal theologians assumed that BOD, BOB and I.I were objective exceptions to EENS.So today most Catholics say every one needs to enter the Church except for those saved with BOD,BOB and I.I.

With the Feeneyite interpretation of Vatican Council II,  Catholics return to the past ecclesiology of the Church.But this interpretation of the Council is not being allowed for Catholics and the Vatican, by the Jewish Left.

The rabbis Rosen, Segni and others want Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise( the baptism of desire refers not to a hypothetical case but an objective person saved outside the Church).So the inference is that there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church.All do not need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.Since there is salvation outside the Church the need for Mission was questioned by Cushingite Pope Benedict in March 2016 when he said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century and there was a 'development'(Cushingite) with Vatican Council II.

The Urbaniana Pontifical University faculty are aware of the deception but to keep body and soul together they are playing along with it.

With the Left controlling pontifical universities there is the need for Catholic educational institutions which will interpret Magisterial documents only with traditional Feeneyite theology and philosophy.They may not be granted affiliation or accreditation but the material they would offer would be rational and traditional.

The Society of St.Pius X seminaries are also interpreting Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism and this is appreciated by the Jewish Left. So confused seminarians are taught that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation but some do not.

Similarly the seminary of sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn and Fr.Anthony Cekada in Florida, USA are also following the Cushingite model of Vatican Council II.

At the Franciscans of the Immaculate seminary Boccea, Rome under Fr. Stefano Manelli f.I, there also, the Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II, was taught.The Feeneyite interpretation of magisterial documents was prohibited by the Rector Fr. Settimo Mannelli f.i, the nephew of Fr. Stefano Manelli.

Those Catholics who interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism, could be punished legally by the Left.

So the false ideological interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS continues and there are new Mission doctrines which are non controversial.Every one seems  happy and at peace. We have a 'dolce'(sweet) brand of the Catholic Faith. This is the mission being promoted by Pope Francis, even though the Left is from Satan.

For him the popes and saints of the past would be  triumphalistic on salvation, with an 'evil ideology'.

-Lionel Andrades

https://www.missioitalia.it/al-via-corso-di-missiologia-on-line-pum-e-urbaniana-insieme/

DECEMBER 19, 2018

CDF Prefect and present two popes violate the Principle of Non Contradiction ( Graphics) 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/cdf-prefect-and-presetnt-two-popes.html

SATURDAY, JULY 20, 2019

Repost : Mission needed without rejecting Vatican Council II like the trads and sedes neither accepting the Council with an irrational premise like the liberals and two popes

SEPTEMBER 6, 2017

Mission needed without rejecting Vatican Council II like the trads and sedes neither accepting the Council with an irrational premise like the liberals and two popes

Mission needed without rejecting Vatican Council II like the trads and sedes neither accepting the Council with an irrational premise like the liberals and two popes

In today's Gospel Reading Jesus said that he must go 'to the other towns' and 'proclaim the good news of the Kingdom of God' which cannot be separated from Him and the Early Church and it was 'because for this purpose' he was sent' and so he was 'preaching in the synagogues of Judea'.

In the First Reading Paul says 'Of this you have already heard through the word of truth, the Gospel, that has come to you.

Just as in the whole world it is bearing fruit and growing,so also among you, from the day you heard it and came to know the grace of God in truth, as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow slave,who is a trustworthy minister of Christ on your behalf and who also told us of your love in the Spirit.'

Paul in Mission knew that Jesus died for everyone but to receieve this salvation every one needed to be baptised with water in the Early Church,the first Christian communities, the first Catholic communities, outside of which there was no salvation.

The baptism of water in the Catholic Church is still needed today for going to Heaven, even though religious do not teach it.

When false doctrines are being taught in the Parish lay Catholics must correct their Parish Priest and Bishop and tell them 1) there are no personally known cases in 2017 of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I).We do not know any one saved outside the Church with BOD, BOB or I.I over the last 50 or more years.Similarly 2) there are no visible cases in 2017 of saved outside the Church with invincible ignorance(LG 16), elements of sanctification truth in other religions(LG 8), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3), seeds of the Word (AG 11) etc.

Tell the priest not to teach false doctrines with a false theology and that you accept all the doctrines of the Church but interpret them with a theology which does not use the false premise of invisible people being visible in the present times.Invisible people are not visible, tell him.

Tell him we love every one, Jesus loves every one,he has no favourites, salvation in potential is open to all, but to receive this great gift we must accept Jesus within the Catholic Church and live the traditional faith and moral teachings of the Church even if popes, cardinals and bishops have rejected them.

There can be lay outreach progams and mision to non Catholics based on the past understanding of salvation which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II or the media's reporting of the Fr.Leonard Feeney case.

However, presently, we lay people are on our own.We have the traditional teachings of the saints and popes, to interpret the Bible.So Jesus is still the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow even if now a new politically approved theology is taught at Catechism classes which begin in a few weeks.

Remember, unlike in the parishes you can proclaim the Faith and do Mission with the traditional teachings of the saints and popes and without rejecting Vatican Council II, as the traditionalists and sedevacantists have done and neither accepting Vatican Council II with the false premise like the liberals and the two popes.

Invite people to come into the Church and to read the Catholic( Christian)classics, the traditional Catholic literature even if one or both of the present popes, for you, are anti-popes, heretics, schismatics,dissidents etc.It is true that they are taking orders, receiving instructions from the Masons and the rest of the Jewish Left.So our concept of Mission would be different from that of the Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome where you can get a good Zionist Catholic academic degree.

The Catholic Church is the only Church Jesus founded outside of which there is no salvation and which has given the world the Bible which is used by all Christian denominations.The concept of the Trinity and the foundation for the world's scientific development also comes from the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/09/mission-needed-without-rejecting.html