Sunday, September 25, 2022

Bishop Schneider was using the Blue Chart !

 

-   Lionel Andrades


SEPTEMBER 25, 2022

Bishop Athanasius Schneider at Kazakhstan said there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church.He was using the Blue Chart

 

https://www.ucanews.com/news/kazakh-prelate-says-criticisms-of-pope-a-sign-of-collegiality/98783

Bishop Athanasius Schneider at Kazakhstan said there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church.

So he is affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no exceptions. He is also affirming Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, with no known exceptions.

In an interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall he has said that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire in the present times. Taylor Marshall agreed with him. He said there are no explicit cases of St. Thomas Aquinas’ implicit baptism of desire.

So for Bishop Athanasius Schneider Lumen Gentium 14(baptism of desire) is a hypothetical and speculative case only. It is not a practical exception for the dogma EENS. Similarly there are no objective cases in 2022 of LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc. These are invisible cases. So Bishop Schneider chooses the Blue chart, the rational chart, the premise is rational. Invisible cases are assumed to be invisible.

For him Vatican Council II does not have any explicit exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. So he has said that there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church. He affirmed the exclusive salvation of the Church in the Patristic period and the Middle Ages and later.-Lionel Andrades


SEPTEMBER 25, 2022

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict use the Red Chart and Bishop Athanasius Schneider chooses the Blue Chart ( Video clip) : the Red Chart is irrational, non traditional and heretical. The Blue chart is orthodox


The following video clip is from Twitter. See LionelAndrades1

 

                                                                                           -Lionel Andrades




Gesù Ti siamo grati per i tuoi doni, la Tua presenza ed il Tuo amore

Bishop Athanasius Schneider at Kazakhstan said there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church.He was using the Blue Chart

 

https://www.ucanews.com/news/kazakh-prelate-says-criticisms-of-pope-a-sign-of-collegiality/98783

Bishop Athanasius Schneider at Kazakhstan said there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church.

So he is affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no exceptions. He is also affirming Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, with no known exceptions.

In an interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall he has said that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire in the present times. Taylor Marshall agreed with him. He said there are no explicit cases of St. Thomas Aquinas’ implicit baptism of desire.

So for Bishop Athanasius Schneider Lumen Gentium 14(baptism of desire) is a hypothetical and speculative case only. It is not a practical exception for the dogma EENS. Similarly there are no objective cases in 2022 of LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc. These are invisible cases. So Bishop Schneider chooses the Blue chart, the rational chart, the premise is rational. Invisible cases are assumed to be invisible.

For him Vatican Council II does not have any explicit exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. So he has said that there is salvation in only Jesus in the Catholic Church. He affirmed the exclusive salvation of the Church in the Patristic period and the Middle Ages and later.-Lionel Andrades


SEPTEMBER 25, 2022

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict use the Red Chart and Bishop Athanasius Schneider chooses the Blue Chart ( Video clip) : the Red Chart is irrational, non traditional and heretical. The Blue chart is orthodox


The following video clip is from Twitter. See LionelAndrades1

 

                                                                                           -Lionel Andrades

Anyone who uses the Red Chart is heretical and schismatic

 

SEPTEMBER 25, 2022

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict use the Red Chart and Bishop Athanasius Schneider chooses the Blue Chart ( Video clip) : the Red Chart is irrational, non traditional and heretical. The Blue chart is orthodox


The following video clip is from Twitter. See LionelAndrades1


 -Lionel Andrades

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict use the Red Chart and Bishop Athanasius Schneider chooses the Blue Chart ( Video clip) : the Red Chart is irrational, non traditional and heretical. The Blue chart is orthodox


The following video clip is from Twitter. See LionelAndrades1

 

                                                                                           -Lionel Andrades

 

Gesù è bello stare nella Tua presenza, Tu sei il ristoro della nostra Anima e del nostro Cuore

Saturday, September 17, 2022

Gesù mostraci la vera immagine di Dio, che gioisce quando un figlio perduto torna tra le sue braccia

"Con le mie fragilità umane, ricorro ancora una volta a te...Madre -" PREGHIERA

Bishop Athanasius Schneider , the SSPX, SBC, CMRI, MHT Seminary and MHFM are supported by Vatican Council II ( Rational )

 

When Bishop Athanasius Schneider says that Jesus in the Catholic Church is the only way to salvation, it must be noted that he is supported by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally; with the Rational Premise.The Council is being interpreted with ‘the red hypothetical passages not being exceptions to the blue orthodox passages’ which support extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

 








When VC2 is interpreted with Feeneyism and not Cushingism then the Council supports the old theology and the old ecclesiology.

The Council when interpreted with the Rational and not Irrational Premise and Inference, endorse the traditional theology of the SSPX, CMRI, MHT seminary,MHFM and the SBC. The Council is exclusivist in its ecclesiology and takes the Church back to the past ecclesiocentrism.

So Bishop Schnedier was supported by the Blue Column, in the two Columns, Red and Blue.The Red Column with the False Premise would of course be a break with the past ecclesiocentric. The bishop understands this.He has said in an interview with Dr.Taylor Marshall that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire(LG 14).Marshall confirmed that there are no explicit cases of Aquinas’ implicit baptism of desire.



When we choose to interpret Vatican Council II with the Blue and not Red chart( see video clips on Twitter) then the Council supports the traditionalists and not the liberals.There is only one rational and ethical choice before Catholics.

Pope Francis and the cardinals cannot continue to interpret Traditionis Custode with the Irrational Premise to create a False Rupture with the Roman Missal ( 1580). The only rational and honest alternative they have in the interpretation of the Council(Rational Premise) supports the ecclesiocentrism of the pre-1962 Missal. The new Missal has to be adapted to the old theology which avoided the False Premise.It was upon the False Premise that the New Theology was formed. It is the  same for the New Ecumeism, New Evangelisation and New Ecclesiology.






The mistake comes from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII and the popes who followed.

So we have to reject the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. The second part of the Letter 1949 interpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being alleged practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.


So the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II by Reuters, Assoicated Press, EWTN and the National Catholic Reporter is now obsolete. Catholics have a rational choice. It is traditional and supports the traditionalists and not the present two popes.





When the charts and graphics are demonstrated it can clearly be seen that the popes, cardinals and bishops are in heresy and schism when they choose the common irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and EENS etc.-Lionel Andrades









Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
 Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7. Vatican Council II
Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 

 Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II


It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.
Nevertheless, our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are not blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body, and with Him quickened to newness of life - that unity which the Holy Scriptures and the ancient Tradition of the Church proclaim. For it is only through Christ's Catholic Church, which is "the all-embracing means of salvation," that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation. We believe that Our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, in order to establish the one Body of Christ on earth to which all should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the people of God. This people of God, though still in its members liable to sin, is ever growing in Christ during its pilgrimage on earth, and is guided by God's gentle wisdom, according to His hidden designs, until it shall happily arrive at the fullness of eternal glory in the heavenly Jerusalem.-Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II


 Dignitatis Humane 1, Vatican Council II
First, the council professes its belief that God Himself has made known to mankind the way in which men are to serve Him, and thus be saved in Christ and come to blessedness. We believe that this one true religion subsists in the Catholic and Apostolic Church, to which the Lord Jesus committed the duty of spreading it abroad among all men. Thus He spoke to the Apostles: "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have enjoined upon you" (Matt. 28: 19-20). On their part, all men are bound to seek the truth, especially in what concerns God and His Church, and to embrace the truth they come to know, and to hold fast to it.
This Vatican Council likewise professes its belief that it is upon the human conscience that these obligations fall and exert their binding force. The truth cannot impose itself except by virtue of its own truth, as it makes its entrance into the mind at once quietly and with power.
Religious freedom, in turn, which men demand as necessary to fulfill their duty to worship God, has to do with immunity from coercion in civil society. Therefore it leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ.-Dignitatis Humane 1, Vatican Council II


 Catechism of the Catholic Church

 "Outside the Church there is no salvation"  846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:  

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: 
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 


 DOMINUS IESUS 

IV. UNICITY AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH


16.  The Lord Jesus, the only Saviour, did not only establish a simple community of disciples, but constituted the Church as a salvific mystery: he himself is in the Church and the Church is in him (cf. Jn 15:1ff.; Gal 3:28; Eph 4:15-16; Acts9:5).  Therefore, the fullness of Christ's salvific mystery belongs also to the Church, inseparably united to her Lord. Indeed, Jesus Christ continues his presence and his work of salvation in the Church and by means of the Church (cf.Col 1:24-27),47 which is his body (cf. 1 Cor 12:12-13, 27; Col 1:18).48 And thus, just as the head and members of a living body, though not identical, are inseparable, so too Christ and the Church can neither be confused nor separated, and constitute a single “whole Christ”.49 This same inseparability is also expressed in the New Testament by the analogy of the Church as the Bride of Christ (cf. 2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:25-29; Rev 21:2,9).50
Therefore, in connection with the unicity and universality of the salvific mediation of Jesus Christ, the unicity of the Church founded by him must befirmly believed as a truth of Catholic faith. Just as there is one Christ, so there exists a single body of Christ, a single Bride of Christ: “a single Catholic and apostolic Church”.51 Furthermore, the promises of the Lord that he would not abandon his Church (cf. Mt 16:18; 28:20) and that he would guide her by his Spirit (cf. Jn 16:13) mean, according to Catholic faith, that the unicity and the unity of the Church — like everything that belongs to the Church's integrity — will never be lacking.52
The Catholic faithful are required to profess that there is an historical continuity — rooted in the apostolic succession53 — between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church: “This is the single Church of Christ... which our Saviour, after his resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care (cf. Jn 21:17), commissioning him and the other Apostles to extend and rule her (cf. Mt28:18ff.), erected for all ages as ‘the pillar and mainstay of the truth' (1 Tim 3:15). This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists in [subsistit in] the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him”.54  With the expression subsistit in, the Second Vatican Council sought to harmonize two doctrinal statements: on the one hand, that the Church of Christ, despite the divisions which exist among Christians, continues to exist fully only in the Catholic Church, and on the other hand, that “outside of her structure, many elements can be found of sanctification and truth”,55 that is, in those Churches and ecclesial communities which are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church.56 But with respect to these, it needs to be stated that “they derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”
-Dominus Iesus 16. 

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LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 DURING THE PONTIFICATE OF POPE PIUS XII


( This letter was  an inter office correspondence between cardinals. However the liberals placed it in the Denzinger and it has been referenced in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It contains an objective error when it assumes invisible and unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible and known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Upon this Letter is based the New Theology.)
 We are bound by divine and Catholic faith to believe all those things which are contained in the word of God, whether it be Scripture or Tradition, and are proposed by the Church to bebelieved as divinely revealed, not only through solemn judgment but also through the ordinary and universal teaching office (, n. 1792).
Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there
 is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church...
Now, among the commandments of Christ, that one holds not the least place by which we are commanded to be incorporated by baptism into the Mystical Body of Christ, 
which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth...

Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless  refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Not only did the Savior command that all nations should  enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic
 necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).

  Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.
However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.




FEBRUARY 5, 2020

FALSE PREMISE, INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION (GRAPHICS)










-Lionel Andrades
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NOVEMBER 2, 2016

When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism. When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.


IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that invisible things or persons are visible.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that invisible things or persons are visible.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that hypothetical cases are objectively visible in 2016.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that hypothetical cases are objectively invisible in 2016.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is that the baptism of desire refers to personally known cases in 2016.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is that the baptism of desire refers to an unknown cases in 2016.There is no personally known case.
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IRRATIONAL PREMISE
The irrational premise is assuming there are objectively seen and known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water in 2016.
RATIONAL PREMISE
The rational premise is assuming others (in general) cannot see invisible cases in the present and the past.It is assuming that the baptism of desire refers to an unknown and invisible case in the present or past.
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When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism.
When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.
-Lionel Andrades

https://gloria.tv/video/KGTNnspuhZyG6uMAzDyAv4vvJ

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/01/repost-when-irrational-premise-is-used.html

When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism.

When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.Lionel Andrades










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