Thursday, January 14, 2021

This is Your Apostolate — Short Video

The Vortex — Catholicism Is Right

GETTING CENSORED - Church Militant is the solution.

 


TRANSCRIPT


This Vortex episode is deliberately not being released on YouTube because it's about getting away from the Marxist-minded giant tech outfits who have complete control over what truth to squash and which lies to promote.

Here's a little background on all this from our perspective here at Church Militant. Long ago, even before 2016, we were internally discussing that the day would arrive when this would all start to happen. We aren't prophets or weren't having visions or anything of the sort.

If you follow us, you know we have pretty keen insights into the state of affairs in the Church and the world because we keep our finger on the pulse and speak with lots of people behind the scenes, frequently. Plus, we have some pretty insightful people here on staff as well who "get it."

America was deteriorating long before the 2020 election was stolen, and affairs in the Church — the corruption of the hierarchy — was speeding that process along. So where we have arrived was going to be inevitable. And here we are. So before we get censored and dialed back and deplatformed, we are going to begin reducing our own footprint in the world of giant tech.  

But — and here is the good news — in our expansion campaign last year that thousands and thousands of you contributed to (thank you again), preparation for all of this was baked into our plan. It wasn't just brick and mortar and increasing the space (which was sorely needed), but it also included a hefty chunk of change to plan for what we now see happening. 

This steamrolling of conservatives on the internet is not going to stop. It's going to increase.
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We weren't keen on making that part widely known, in case it triggered a response from giant tech before we were ready and the time was right. Well, we are ready and the time is right. Big tech has already censored the President. Then they started limiting and deplatforming other conservative groups.  

Then, as you know, the hosts for Parler just dropped them because of the mass migration of faithful Catholics and political conservatives to the site. This steamrolling of conservatives on the internet is not going to stop. It's going to increase. The underlying problem is pretty simple.

A handful of Marxist zillionaires developed all the technology, profited from government protection from being sued, constructed a monopoly, created all their own systems, collaborated on how to get all this hooked and connected and positioned themselves to exert near-total control over the masses after getting the masses to sign up.

Now, almost everyone Googles, Facebooks, tweets and so forth; in short, they have most of the country right where they want them. In even more direct summary, it's their sandbox, and they control it utterly. People who want the truth simply cannot play in that sandbox. It's built to lie, distort the truth and push a Marxist narrative.

As Fr. John Hardon used to say, and we have often repeated, "It's the Luciferian media." And that is not restricted to just the likes of CNN and The New York Times. It's the entire array of the massive media apparatus. The only thing they cannot ultimately control with ease is individual websites where all the content is controlled and published by the website owner.

That's what we are here at Church Militant. We have the most robust site in the entire Catholic world, bar none. Our partner companies, who we've worked with for years, are absolute cracks at their jobs and are faithful Catholics.

While many other Catholic outfits were, perhaps naively, relying on YouTube and so forth, we've been quietly establishing professional relationships with the best folks (professionally and in terms of Catholicism) in the business who are not going to stop doing business with us because we are orthodox Catholics speaking the truth.

In short, if any solid, Catholic, politically conservative group does not have a superb, robust, knock-'em-dead website with massive capability for video, streaming, publishing, emails, push notifications, payment processing and so forth, they aren't going to survive. Giant tech will see to that.

Church Militant not only has all that, but it has it in spades. That's what we've built here with your help, our insight and God's grace. So here's what we are asking you to do. Subscribe to Church Militant now. Sign up for our email list to get access to authentic Catholic content that isn't going to be taken down and suddenly disappear because some Marxist jerk doesn't like it.

This crowd just deplatformed the president of the United States. Do you seriously think for one minute that after Beijing Joe is sworn in, they aren't going to go on a rampage across social media? They took down an entire social media application in Parler. Loads of familiar voices are now off YouTube.

We are telling you, as my mom used to say, "as plain as eggs are eggs," you need to get out of that sandbox before you are thrown out, and get over to Church Militant's actual website. Stop watching us on third-party sites run by Marxists who hate the Church, the truth and America.

Is it more convenient to just sit back and let YouTube's playlist run for you. Well, of course it is: That's how they built it. But no one is asking that you push a boulder up a mountain. Just make a couple more clicks on the site and be more proactive and less passive in dealing with information.

Another major point to consider is our expertise in delivering video content in addition to articles. In the information world, video is king. We've said that since our very first day back in 2006. It has to be video because that's how the vast majority of people consume their information.

The country has changed. And we stand ready here at Church Militant to help you survive that change.
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That's why YouTube, a video platform, reached the crushing heights it has. Video is what Church Militant is all about and has always been about. And frankly, no one in the Catholic world does it like we do, not even close. That's not to slam anyone else, it's just to say that this is our expertise because of not only my professional background for decades in commercial broadcast and news (winning multiple Emmys) but also the intense coaching up the staff here receives each day, turning them into television people as well.

Church Militant should be your first stop every day and at various times throughout the day. Bookmark it as a favorite, and make it your home page. Sign up for the emails and get the information straight from us, directly (not by dancing around in the Marxist sandbox).

Life has changed. The world has changed. The country has changed. And we stand ready here at Church Militant to help you survive that change and, in fact, prosper in it. From news coverage to the most faithful, authentic Catholic programming, by the thousands of hours for premium members, no one has what we have.

And here's a closing thought: Wouldn't you want to support an outfit and join an apostolate like this that had this kind of foresight to plan ahead (as we have), so that when the inevitable storm came, you'd have a place to go for truth and safety?

Make Church Militant part of your life now. Come to us frequently, and read our emails with important information. Life has changed. And so must we all.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-getting-censored



Le suore Salesiane, membri della Facoltà della Pontificia Facoltà di Scienze e Scienze dell'Educazione "Auxilium" di Roma, sono d'accordo con me. Usano tutti una falsa premessa per interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II e lo insegnano agli studenti

 


Le suore Salesiane, membri della Facoltà della Pontificia Facoltà di Scienze e Scienze dell'Educazione "Auxilium" di Roma, sono d'accordo con me. Usano tutti una falsa premessa per interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II e lo insegnano agli studenti.-Lionel Andrades



 JANUARY 13, 2021

The Salesian Sisters, members of the faculty at The Pontifical Faculty of Science and Education"Auxilium", Rome,agree with me . They are all using a false premise to intepret Vatican Council II and they are teaching it to the students



The Salesian Sisters, members of the faculty at The  Pontifical Faculty of Science and Education"Auxilium", Rome,agree with me . They are all using a false premise to intepret Vatican Council II and they are teaching it to the students. -Lionel Andrades



 JANUARY 12, 2021



Sr.Cettina Cacciato teaches catechesis which is an innovation, irrational and heretical and is part of the present doctrinal chaos

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/srcettina-cacciato-teaches-catechesis.html






JANUARY 12, 2021

Suor Cettina Cacciato insegna la catechesi che è una novità, irrazionale ed eretica e fa parte del dottrinale caos di oggi

NUARY 12, 2021

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/suor-cettina-cacciato-insegna-la.html

John Allen jr., Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli understand what I am saying and they have no correction or opposition to offer. Since the real issue is an empirical observation and not theological reasoning. They cannot deny that the baptism of desire and invincible refer to physically invisible cases in 2021.Then from here theology is created, old or new.

 'Elements of sanctification and truth in other religions' (LG 8) which lead to salvation, invincible ignorance leading to salvation(LG 16), the baptism of desire (LG 14), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) in Vatican Council II are always hypothetical.There are no objective cases in 2021. So they never ever were objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS. It was only by confusing what is invisible as visible that Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria could project exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

So today we can affirm the strict interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally. We do not have to choose. It's no more either EENS or Vatican Council II.

John Allen jr., Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli  understand what I am saying and  they have no correction or opposition to offer. Since the real issue is an empirical observation and not theological reasoning. They cannot deny that the baptism of desire and invincible refer to physically invisible cases in 2021.Then from here theology is created, old or new. -Lionel Andrades




ANUARY 11, 2021

Massimo Faggioli is a Feeneyite since for him hypothetical and speculative cases are not objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Vatican Council II is no more a 'revolution' or a 'new revelation' in the Church for him

 Massimo Faggioli is a Feeneyite since for him hypothetical and speculative cases are not objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

Vatican Council II is no more a 'revolution' or a 'new revelation' in the Church for him. -Lionel Andrades

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JANUARY 8, 2021

Michael Sean Winters is a Feeneyite since for him hypothetical and speculative cases are not objective exceptions to the traditional strict interpretation of EENS

 Michael Sean Winters is a Feeneyite since for him hypothetical and speculative cases are not objective exceptions to the traditional strict interpretation of  extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). -Lionel Andrades

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JANUARY 10, 2021

A Feeneyite for me is a Catholic who interprets and accepts all Magisterial documents without a false premise and so there is no rupture with Tradition in general

 For me a Feeneyite is not a Catholic, who goes only for the Latin Mass, and allegedly rejects the baptism of desire and affirms the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). A Feeneyite for me is a Catholic who interprets and accepts all Magisterial documents without a false premise and so there is no rupture with Tradition in general.

A Cushingite interprets Magisterial documents with a false premise, creating a rupture with the historical, strict interpretation of EENS.

Cardinal Kasper and Koch, Pope Benedict and Popes Francis, the FSSP, SSPX, Paulish Fathers and the St. Benedict Center Still River, USA in the diocese of Worcester, are Cushingites on Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-feeneyite-for-me-is-catholic-who.html

 JANUARY 10, 2021

For me outside the Church there is no salvation is based on the teaching of Vatican Council II (AG 7) interpreted rationally (LG 8,LG 16 etc are invisible cases). For others outside the Church there is salvation based on Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally( LG 8, LG 16 etc are visible examples of salvation outside the Church and so practical exceptions to EENS, Athanasius Creed etc

 For me outside the Church there is no salvation is based on the teaching of Vatican Council II (AG 7) interpreted rationally (LG 8,LG 16 etc are invisible cases). For others outside the Church there is salvation based on Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally( LG 8, LG 16 etc are visible examples of salvation outside the Church and so practical exceptions to EENS, Athanasius Creed etc. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/for-me-outside-church-there-is-no.html

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JANUARY 9, 2021

Shout from the house tops . Vatican Council II is missionary since Ad Gentes 7 can have no practical exceptions in 2021. EENS is missionary since there can be no practical exceptions in real life. So there are no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II or the Catechism of the Catholic Church to EENS and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church

 


Shout from the house tops . Vatican Council II is missionary since Ad Gentes 7  can have no practical exceptions in 2021.

EENS is missionary since there can be no practical exceptions in real life. 

So there are no practical exceptions  mentioned in Vatican Council II or the Catechism of the Catholic Church to EENS and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/01/shout-from-house-tops-vatican-council.html

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DECEMBER 5, 2019

The autumn general assembly of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore Nov. 13, 2019, did not discuss how Vatican Council II can be interpreted in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) - and Massimo Faggioli has no comment on this.

The autumn  general assembly of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore Nov. 13, 2019, did not discuss how Vatican Council II can be interpreted in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) - and Massimo Faggioli has no comment on this.
 
 Massimo Faggioli and Michael Sean Winters' liberalism was based on an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.The National Catholic Reporter  had two books reviewed, which interpreted Vatican Council II with the superficial and false reasoning.1

All the U.S bishops at their fall gathering make the same mistake as was made by Faggioli and Winters. 

They approved the revised document on strategic priorities for 2021 to 2024 (evangelization, vocations, life and dignity of the human person, the protection of children) writes Faggioli, in Commonweal.2   He does not mention how the Council can be re-interpreted in harmony with Tradition.

 These are great days- when I say that Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) like the traditionalist Brother Andre Marie MICM- and there is no denial from them.
When I say this I assume Faggioli and Winters  will interpret the Council  rationally and honestly. 3

As adult, responsible men, the U.S bishops, like Faggioli  will not  claim that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to real people in 2019, 'physical bodies' in Newton's time and space.This is a being honest.

So the bishops must know, like Massimo Faggioli and Michail Sean Winters, that they can no more interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc).

Such an important issue was missing from the agenda of the bishops assembly when they discussed evangelisation, vocations etc, all based upon the irrational interpretation of the Council.

For Faggioli and Winters, the 50 years interpretation of the Council is over. It violated common sense.It contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction.-Lionel Andrades

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NOVEMBER 20, 2019

Massimo Faggioli and Michael Sean Winters liberalism was based on an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.The National Catholic Reporter had two books reviewed, which interpreted Vatican Council II with the superficial and false reasoning.The books were authored by Paul Lakeland and Fr. Jared Wicks sj.

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/massimo-faggiolis-and-michael-sean.html

 

 

Adrift & Alone

The Bishops Meet, and Miss the Point
 https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/adrift-alone
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NOVEMBER 19, 2019

Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli have converted ? 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-and-massimo.html

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SUNDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2017

Massimo Faggioli and Cardinal Burke have to be shown their theological mistake : rejection of the Syllabus of Errors with a false premise


Massimo Faggioli says on Twitter that we have to choose the theology of the Syllabus of Errors or Vatican Council II as interpreted by the popes.
He also says:
This is how Cardinal Raymond Burke reasons too and the complicated theology he hides under the rug and gets on with life.They both use the same reasoning.Faggioli  accepts Vatican Council II with an irrationality and Cardinal Burke also accepts Vatican Council II with the irrationality, complains at times, but does not outright reject the Council( with the false premise) as do the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX).
The way I see it is, all their problems begin with the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.The false premise was created in 1949 in a big way and then it was made official at Vatican Council II.
The false premise is: invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are physically visible.
The strange inference is: These visible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
The final non traditional conclusion is : They are examples of salvation outside the Church and are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So traditional EENS and the Syllabus of Errors are rejected.
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This is how Massimo Faggioli and Cardinal Burke reason.This is the reasoning from Pope Pius XII to Pope Francis.
1.We have to ask ourselves what would be the conclusion if we considered BOD, BOB and I.I being simply invisible in 2017? These speculative cases are physically invisible in 2017. This is common sense. It is something obvious.
2.Similarly what if LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only speculative and unknown people in 2017?
So what is the conclusion? How do you read the text of Vatican Council II?
There will be a change. Of course there will be a change. When the premise is changed the conclusion will also change.
With invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 16, LG 8 etc the conclusion is a Vatican Council II ( premise-free) and an EENS( premise-free) which does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors.
But for Massimo Faggioli the Syllabus of Errors is contradicted with Vatican Council II.He uses the irrational premise, what is invisible is visible for him.There is a visible for him BOD,BOB and I.I. So he says either Vatican Council II or the Syllabus.The Syllabus is a theological view that is not Catholic anymore, for him.
Even for Cardinal MullerArchbishop Di Noia, Archbishop Guido Pozzo and Pope Benedict  the Syllabus of Errors is meaningless today.Since with visible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I  being mistaken as visible exceptions to the the dogma EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology is  put away.
With there being known salvation outside the Church there is the new ecumenism.It contradicts the Syllabus of Errors.
With there being known salvation outside the Church all non Christians do not need to enter the Church for salvation.This is a new doctrine on salvation and other religionsAgain the Syllabus is contradicted.
Visible for us LG 16, UR 3 etc also contradicts the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.There are visible and known cases of people saved outside the Church is also Faggioli and Burke's reasoning.
So the old Catholic theology is no more there with the new theology based on the irrational premise.
Now  what if we avoid the premise I keep asking? Of course there will be a Vatican Council II which is premise-free.A different Council.We will read the same text but differently.
For me invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are not personally known examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times.I cannot meet or see someone saved outside the Church.Someone who does not exist in our reality cannot be an exception to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.There can only be an ecumenism of return for me.There is no practical known case of a Protestant saved outside the Church and theologically, with the old ecclesiology, there is no other choice.So for me Vatican Council II does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism but it contradicts Faggioli's concept of ecumenism.
With there being no known salvation outside the Church for me there is only the exclusivist ecclesiology and traditional mission.So for me Vatican Council II does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors on other religions and salvation.But it contradicts Faggioli's concept of salvation in other religions.
When Pope Benedict XVI says that Vatican Council II has a hermeneutic of continuity he means Vatican Council II with the premise is in harmony with EENS, also interpreted with the premise i.e BOD,BOB and I.I are visible cases.He will not affirm EENS without the premise.Neither will he affirm Vatican Council II without the premise.Since it would be in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology and this would be politically incorrect for him.
It is the same with Massimo Faggioli who does not affirm Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, since he accepts the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which uses the false premise. So there is now a new ecclesiology for Faggioli and Burke.
Cardinal Burke offers the Tridentine Rite Mass with the new ecclesiology in his mind and not that of the magisterium of the 16th century.
Cardinal Burke and Massimo Faggioli need to affirm EENS(premise-free) and Vatican Council II(premise-free) since it is unethical and deceptive to consider BOD, BOB and I.I and also LG 16, LG 8, UR 3,GS 22, NA 2, AG 11 etc as referring to visible and known cases saved outside the Church.Then with this deception the old ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors is rejected.Unknowingly this is what Massimo Faggioli and Cardinal Burke are doing.It is the same with the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Ecclesia Dei, Vatican.-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 8, 2017

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SSPX begin negotiations immediately : affirm Vatican Council II ( premise free)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-begin-negotiations-immediately_8.html

https://hughosb.com/2017/10/06/the-correctio-filialis-a-tangential-observation/
http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.it/2017/10/massimo-faggioli.html
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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2019

So Massimo Faggioli can no more interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabusof Errors, Athanasius Creed etc).

If Massimo Faggioli would ask Pope Francis if the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II,  refer to physically invisible or visible cases in 2019 for him ?.The  pope would answer "physically visible". This is common sense.If he would further be asked, "Can invisible people be visible exceptions  to the centuries old interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus?", the pope would say, "No".This is something obvious. Pope Francis would support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.
So Massimo Faggioli  can no more interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus fo Errors, Athanasius Creed etc).
The Council is not schismatic. On Vatican Council II and EENS, it supports the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, N.H, USA.
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 There are no exceptions in Vatican Council II to the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX.
Similarly Lumen Gentium does not contradict Unam Sanctam on outside the Church there is no salvation.
Vatican Council II does not contradict the ecclesiology of St.Robert Bellarmine.
However Vatican Council II interpreted according to Joseph Ratzinger is irrational and would have to contradict the ecclesiology of St. Robert Belamine and the missionaries of the 16th century. -Lionel Andrades

NOVEMBER 4, 2019






NOVEMBER 4, 2019


Michael Sean Winters affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since if asked he would say that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to invisible and not visible people in 2019. So they are not practical exceptions to the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. I have sent him e-mails of these posts and there is no contradiction from him.






NOVEMBER 3, 2019


Michael Sean Winters affirms Vatican Council II and also the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since the Council supports Feeneyite EENS when it is interpreted rationally.The Council is Feeneyite.He agrees with me.When he supports Fr. Leonard Feeney on EENS he is not in schism since the Council does the same when interpreted rationally.   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-affirms-vatican.html

SEPTEMBER 2, 2019

LifeSitesNews could explain to Michael Sean Winters how doctrinally and theologically they are not in schism : they affirm Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents without the false premise    https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/09/lifesitesnews-could-explain-to-michael.html

Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.




 With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.

AUGUST 24, 2019


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Masimo Faggioli, Michael Sean Winters interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism and justify so many changes in the Church

AUGUST 22, 2019

Massimo Faggioli and Michael Sean Winters interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism and so do not correct the error made by Pope Paul VI. They also interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism and so do not correct the error made by Pope John XXIII    https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/massimo-faggioli-and-michael-sean.html



AUGUST 22, 2019


Massimo Faggioli, Michael Sean Winters and the other Cushingites support heresy when they reject the Athanasius Creed , change the interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed, change the interpretation of Vatican Council II and all the Catechisms and reject traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS ) based upon rational Feeneyism.They are in a general rupture with the past Magisterium, when they use Cushingism as a philosophy and theology



JANUARY 26, 2018


Hilary White and Massimo Faggioli interpret the Catechism, Vatican Council II and Letter of the Holy Office with hypothetical cases not being hypothetical : so there is a rupture with Tradition (with graphics)


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FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2017

Cardinal Raymond Burke interprets Vatican Council II with the same reasoning as Massimo Faggioli and Fr.James Martin s.j

In 2015 leftist politicians asked the New York Times not to allow Ross Douthet to write on Catholic theology since it differed from their official one approved by the Jewish Left for the Catholic Church.1 Among them is Massimo Faggioli.He considers the old traditional theology and ecclesiology of the Catholic Church as being 'criminal' and he will bring out the 'hate card' he keeps in his pocket and  show it to you. This is what happened in his criticism of Ross Douthet who wrote on Pope Francis' Plot to change Catholicism 2.

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Boniface on the blog Unam Sanctam Catholicam,observes 
See...here's the problem. This line of reasoning suggests that some theological views once were Catholic, but are no longer so. That's blatantly erroneous. Obviously, if a theological view was ever "Catholic", then it remains so today and forever. This is not a complex idea...its like, basic ecclesiology. "What is believed everywhere, always, by all," to quote the famous formula of St. Vincent of Lerins.


Faggioli means that the old theological views are not Catholic anymore because of Vatican  Council II (Cushingite).This is Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise to produce a non traditional conclusion.This is common place for the School of Bologna which reportedly has influenced Faggioli.This is also the thinking of the popes since Paul VI.

POPE BENEDICT AGREES WITH FAGGIOLI
This was the message of Pope Benedict last year when he said that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was 'a development' with Vatican Council II for him. This is the new theology of Pope Benedict and Massimo Faggioli.

The leftists are saying that  they now have the sole narrative on theology after Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and any one who does not agree with them ' does not know theology'.
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Massimo Faggioli tells Ross Douthat that the latter does not know theology and Fr.Norbert Hoffman sdb, Secretary at the Vatican office for relations with the Jews,  suggests the same to Edward Pentin.

DOUTHAT AND PENTIN UNAWARE OF THE FALSE PREMISE
Douthat, the New York Times columnist and Edward Pentin, correspondent at the National Catholic Register are not aware of Vatican Council II Feeneyite and they are not telling the Left that the 'new theology' in the Catholic Church is based on an irrational premise and inference.
The leftist professors of theology were telling Ross Douthat  that with Vatican Council II ( Cushingism version)  there is no old ecclesiology. They mean it sincerely.

FEENEYITE EENS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II UNKNOWN
They can only intepret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus, with the Cusningite premise and inference. While Douthat cannot correct them since he does not know that there is a Feeneyite alternative and the Magisterium will not mention it for political reasons.Douthat and Pentin also use the same false premise.
The School of Bologna like the popes from Pius XII interpret the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and no one corrects them - except for myself.

Naturally, the enthusiasm of Faggioli and of his interviewers is explained by the fact that they identify Francis’s interpretation of Vatican II with that of the “school of Bologna.”
Lionel:
The School of Bologna interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism i.e there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS. They refuse to interpret Vatcan Council II with traditional Feeneyism i.e there are no known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of EENS. Neither are there known exceptions mentioned in the text of  Vatican Council to the traditional, strict interpretation of EENS 5

TWO FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKES OF FAGGIOLI AND MARTIN
We have to be aware that Massimo Faggioli and Fr. James Martin s.j make two fundamental mistakes.
1.They interpret the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as referring to known people saved outside the Church.So philosophically they are saying that we can see and know people in 2017 or the past, who have been saved with BOD, BOB and I.I without being members of the Church.
Theologically they then conclude that BOD,BOB and I.I are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus. There are known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.So their new philosophy and theology, which is now magisterial, is based on invisible people being visible at the same time.Faggioli and Martin violate the Principle of Non Contradiction here.
How can people saved in Heaven and known only to God be also on earth exceptions to the old theology, which said outside the Church there is no salvation? The new theology for them now says outside the Church there is known salvation and so the old theology is 'no more Catholic' for Faggioli.He rejects the old ecclesiology of the Church and there is a development,also for him.It is all based on  visible for him cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.

IN PRINCIPLE ERROR
For them, in principle, hypothetical and theoretical cases (BOD,BOB and I.I) are practical exceptions to EENS.In other words these are personally known people, living in the flesh, for them to be exceptions to traditional EENS and the 'old theology'.

2.Since in principle, hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but objectively seen and known for Faggioli and Martin they have an irrational conclusion.In Vatican Council II LG 16, LG 8, LG 14,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, AG 7, AG 11 etc are not hypothetical cases.Instead they are known people saved outside the Church, they are examples of exceptions to the old exclusivist ecclesiology.So Vatican Council II is a rupture with the past ecclesiology.So Faggioli sincerely says 'they are theological views which are not Catholic any more'.Or, like Pope Benedict, who uses the same reasoning, says, EENS is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. He means LG 16 etc refer to visible and personally known people who are practical exceptions to the 16th century interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation.
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Image result for Photo of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard FeeneyWe now know know that BOD, BOB and I.I refer to invisible people. So there was a mistake in the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney.
We know that LG 16, UR 3 etc refer to invisible people. When Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger interpreted Vatican Council II with LG 16 etc referring to visible people it was an objective mistake.With his false premise Vatican Council II emerges as a rupture with EENS and Tradition. Archbishop Lefebvre was correct.So he should not have been excommunicated for not accepting Vatican Council II with this irrational interpretation.

The Vatican should apologize for the excommunication of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr.Leonard Feeney.We  now know they were doctrinally correct. 6

Similarly the SSPX is correct today in rejecting Vatican Council II with LG 16 etc being considered known cases saved outside the Church.They should not be accused of being in schism.While Cardinal Raymond Burke who interprets Vatican Council II with the same reasoning as Faggioli and Martin, should be asked to affirm the Council without the irrational premise.
He could set an example for Faggioli and Martin and affirm Feeneyite EENS and reject Cushingite EENS.-Lionel Andrades 






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http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2015/10/28/3717003/ross-douthat-could-you-not/

http://americamagazine.org/content/dispatches/catholic-theologians-condemn-ross-douthats-recent-piece-pope

http://womenintheology.org/2015/10/27/why-i-signed-the-letter-to-the-nytimes-about-ross-douthat/

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-mccarthyism-of-liberal-catholic-elites/

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/thin-skinned-theologians-douthat/

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/opinion/sunday/the-plot-to-change-catholicism.html

JANUARY 28, 2016


Vatican Council II is 'hate' without an irrationality used in the interpretation : Fr. James Martin S.J will not affirm this Councilhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/vatican-council-ii-is-hate-without.html





Ross Douthat needed to tell Fr.James Martin S.J that it is only with the use of an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II that the Council 'develops doctrine'

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/ross-douthat-needed-to-tell-frjames.html


JANUARY 26, 2016


The text of Vatican Council II as it stands today does not contradict the dogma EENS.Dignitatis Humane does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Council can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism.The conclusion is differenthttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/the-text-of-vatican-council-ii-as-it.html

JANUARY 25, 2016

A simple theological response to the learned members of the Academy
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/a-simple-theological-response-to.html

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http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.it/2017/10/massimo-faggioli.html
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/you-dont-know-theology-ross-douthat-and.html
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/possibly-prof-massimo-faggioli-thinks.html
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/vatican-should-apologize-for.html
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