Monday, July 3, 2023

We have a revolution in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. There is a re-interpretation. It takes the Church back to the past ecclesiology. This is a new discovery. It will come as a surprise to many. It is simple.The red is not an exception for the blue. The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance is not an exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the Council of Florence(1442) and the Athanasius Creed. This was not known to even the traditionalists like the SSPX, CMRI,MHT, MHFM etc. They were interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally like the popes from Paul VI to Francis.

 

We have a revolution in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. There is a re-interpretation. It takes the Church back to the past ecclesiology. This is a new discovery. It will come as a surprise to many. It is simple.The red is not an exception for the blue. The baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the Council of Florence(1442) and the Athanasius Creed. They (BOD and I.I)  are only hypothetical and theoretical cases in 2023. We cannot see or meet someone saved as such.

This was not known to even the traditionalists like the SSPX, CMRI,MHT, MHFM etc. They were interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally like the popes from Paul VI to Francis.-Lionel Andrades

JULY 3, 2023



Cardinals Grech, Hollerich and Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing and Sister Nathalie Bequart are interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue. This is irrational. It is nontraditional and dishonest. For me the red is not an exception for the blue : The popes from Paul VI to Francis made a mistake on Vatican Council II .

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Cardinals Grech, Hollerich and Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing and Sister Nathalie Bequart are interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue. This is irrational. It is nontraditional and dishonest. For me the red is not an exception for the blue : The popes from Paul VI to Francis made a mistake on Vatican Council II .

 

Cardinals Grech, Hollerich and Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing and Sister Nathalie Bequart are interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue. This is irrational. It is nontraditional and dishonest. For me the red is not an exception for the blue.

The red passages refer to be hypothetical cases only. They refer to invisible people in 1949-2023. The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are always only speculative and theoretical.

So the passages in red do not contradict the tradition and orthodox passages in blue.

They are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the Council of Florence (1442).

So the Synods must affirm Vatican Council II. They must accept Vatican Council II interpreted only rationally i.e. the red is not an exception for the blue.

The popes from Paul VI to Francis made a mistake on Vatican Council II .They were interpreting the Council with the red invisible and hypothetical passages  being exceptions for the blue orthodox passages  which support the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and/or the orthodox ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. The passages in red are not exceptions for the traditional passages in blue for me. This is being rational.This is common sense. It is not a theology or personal view only.

The popes mistook the red hypothetical passages as contradicting the blue passages, which support the past exclusivist ecclesiology.

So the Council is Feeneyite. It is in line with the dogma EENS according to the Jesuit Leonard Feeney of Boston. It contradicts the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing. It is in line with EENS according to the St. Benedict Center, Fr. Leonard Feeney, Sister Catherine Goddard and Brother Francis micm and not that of Pope Pius XII and the subsequent popes before and after Vatican Council II.

The Roman Vicariate and the Vatican Congregations are still interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue, even after being informed.

An Auxiliary bishop of Rome went to the diocese of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy and transferred traditionalist priests who did not interpret Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue. The Auxiliary Bishop interpreted the Council irrationally.

The Anglican Ordinariate interprets Vatican Council II irrationally also, with the red being an exception for the blue. So they expelled and excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco. –Lionel Andrades






JULY 3, 2023







We have a new discovery which is unknown to most people in the Catholic Church. The discovery is that ‘the red is not an exception for the blue’

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We have a new discovery which is unknown to most people in the Catholic Church. The discovery is that ‘the red is not an exception for the blue’

 






We have a new discovery which is unknown to most people in the Catholic Church. The discovery is that  ‘the red is not an exception for the blue i.e. the passages in Vatican Council II which refer to the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which are marked in red,  do not contradict the passages which are orthodox and support the past ecclesiocentrism and are marked in blue.

If the passages which refer to the BOD and I.I  in red and the orthodox and traditional    passages in blue, then it could be said that 'the red is not an exception for the blue'. Roughly it is said that the red does not contradict the blue. 

The red passages are like ‘null’ or ‘zero‘ cases.

The red passages also do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215).We are left with only the blue passages, the orthodox teachings.

So Vatican Council II has no passage which is a rupture with the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.

The passages in red do not contradict Feeneyite EENS. - Lionel Andrades


Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II


14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.
- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II





Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II


It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.

Nevertheless, our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are not blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body, and with Him quickened to newness of life - that unity which the Holy Scriptures and the ancient Tradition of the Church proclaim. For it is only through Christ's Catholic Church, which is "the all-embracing means of salvation," that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation. We believe that Our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, in order to establish the one Body of Christ on earth to which all should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the people of God. This people of God, though still in its members liable to sin, is ever growing in Christ during its pilgrimage on earth, and is guided by God's gentle wisdom, according to His hidden designs, until it shall happily arrive at the fullness of eternal glory in the heavenly Jerusalem.- Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II



Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II


Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II






Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 


 "Outside the Church there is no salvation"  846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:  

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: 
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men." -Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 

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