Monday, June 26, 2023

I am following Aristotle's logic. Pope Francis and the cardinals violate the Principle of Non Contradiction

 



                                                                                   - Lionel Andrades






A New Discovery : Pope Francis, the CDF etc have only to announce that LG 8, LG 14. LG 16. UR 3. NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases in 2023. Things then fall into place. The Church returns to Tradition.

 


 

 

MARCH 12, 2023

A New Discovery : Pope Francis, the CDF has only to announce that LG 8, LG 14. LG 16. UR 3. NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases in 2023. Things then fall into place. The Church returns to Tradition.


A New Discovery: Pope Francis and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, have  only to announce that LG 8, LG 14. LG 16. UR 3. NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases in 2023. Things then fall into place. The Church returns to Tradition. The pope  reverses the mistake of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston. It is the end of the New Theology and a return to the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. This is a new discovery in the Church but a return to Tradition. Millions of people did not know this as they discussed Vatican Council II over 60 years.

All the arguments of collegiality, religious liberty, interpret religious dialogue and ecumenism have ended since the Council supports traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 while LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 GS 22 etc are not practical exceptions for Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 or Feeneyite  EENS. So there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II.

Within AG 7 and LG 14 the reference to hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and beings saved in invincible ignorance do not contradict the orthodox passages which support the past exclusivist ecclesiology.

There is now nothing in the Council-text to contradict the Athanasius Creed (exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church) and the Syllabus of Errors (an ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church).

So we can affirm Feeneyite EENS and hypothetical and implicit cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14).

We now have St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Augustine, St. Anthont Marie Claret and the popes over the centuries affirming the ‘strict interpretation  of EENS while referring to BOD and I.I as not being exceptions for EENS. We do not have to reject the ecclesiology of St. Francis of Assisi and St. Bonaventure or St. Ignatius of Loyola or St. Francis Xavier.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican, has only to announce that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc always refer to hypothetical cases only. That’s all.- Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/a-new-discovery-pope-francis-cdf-has.html

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MARCH 6, 2023

It is like watering the roots of a plant or tree. With one simple step, one action, the whole tree is nourished-branches, leaves, roots etc.In the same way by choosing the rational premise we return to the past in faith and morals, liturgy,. mission, ecclesiology etc

 


It is like watering the roots of a plant or tree. With one simple step, one action, the whole tree is nourished-branches, leaves, roots etc.In the same way by choosing the rational premise we return to the past in faith and morals, liturgy, mission, ecclesiology etc

Now we know.We have the information. We know how to do it. We know how to repeat it.

We simply interpret LG 8 etc rationally. Then we go back to the ecclesiology of the old liturgy.

We go back to Traditional Mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Since there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.

Vatican Council II supports the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). It does this in Lumen Gentium 14 which is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 ( outside the Church there is no salvation).While hypothetical cases of LG 8 etc are not practical exceptions for EENS and CCC 846, in 2023.

Just one step is needed.

We go back to the past theology.The new theology was produced with the false premise, false inference and so non traditional conclusion.

With extra ecclesiam nulla salus intact and the same as it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, we can now proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics.All political legislation must have Jesus, God, as its center. This is Jesus as he is known in the Catholic Church.

So we return to the old ecumenism of return since Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All. ( Ad Gentes 7).

All this is possible with only one simple action: interpreting Vatican Council II rationally.Only one step is needed.

ONLY ONE ACTION IS NEEDED

 We go back to the pre-1949 Catholic Church in faith and morals.Since there is no known salvation outside the Church. There cannot be a new moral theology.

 We can only use the old Roman Missal since it does not have its foundation in Vatican Council II (irrational). The popes have to only be traditionalists. Since Vatican Council II is no more a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors, the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition.

Canon Law demands that a pope follow all the teachings of the Catholic Church and express them in public. With Vatican Council II ( rational) Pope Francis has to affirm the Syllabus of Errors and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.

All this comes about with one simple action : we do not confuse what is invisible as being visible in Vatican Council II. We know that there are 'no explicit cases of St. Thomas Aquinas' implicit baptism of desire'. There are 'no literal cases' of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance.There are 'zero cases' of LG 14 and LG 16 in our reality.We have the found the missing link, which creates a break with Tradition. We now know how to avoid it. We avoid the false premise, always.

With this correct way of looking at the Council; this re-interpreting of the Council,  the whole Church; the main line Church, returns immediately to the past.

Only simple action is needed.Only one step is needed.It is easy and free and traditional.It's enjoyable, like watering the roots of a tree.

-Lionel Andrades

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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/france-comes-back-to-tradition.html

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Repost : Those who affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are not ‘ultra traditionalists’ : Chancellor Meredith Cook, esq, grants canonical permission only for priests who interpret the Council unethically

 

 MAY 17, 2023

Those who affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are not ‘ultra traditionalists’ : Chancellor Meredith Cook, esq, grants canonical permission only for priests who interpret the Council unethically

Damien Fisher correspondent for the New Hampshire Union Leader continues to refer to the Catholic religious community in New Hampshire as ‘ ultra traditionalists’.This is as if they reject Vatican Council II.Instead the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire, USA, endorse Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed, and also the Fourth Lateran Council on extra ecclesiam nulla salus- all, interpreted rationally and traditionally.Damien and Simcha Fisher in New Hampshire, cannot say the same.

 There is no correction or clarification in the New Hampshire Union Leader. There is also no apology from Fisher.Also there is no comment from the Chancellor.

Brother Andre Marie micm, the Superior, of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in New Hampshire, accepts Pope Francis as the pope.

They are not opposed to Jews in general and are not Anti Semitic.They oppose the Jewish Left ( ADL etc) on values which are Satanic and opposed to the Bible. Orthodox Jews who oppose LGBT sex, abortion and Zionism, would support the St. Benedict Center against the ADL.

Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester in New Hampshire, also needs to clarify that he accepts Vatican Council II but interprets it irrationally while Brother Andre Marie micm, accepts the Council but interprets it rationally and traditionally.So a Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions has been issued against the St. Benedict Center, NH, by Bishop Libasci, Fr. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar, and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.The bishop and the CDF Secretary, Archbishop Augustine di Noia op, even by secular standards are dishonest and unethical.

The Chancellor of the diocese Meredith Cook, esq, only grants canonical permission for priests in the diocese, who interpret the Council unethically.

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary are the only religious community in the diocese and in New England, which interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents, rationally. This is not mentioned in the reports of Damien Fisher.- Lionel Andrades


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 MAY 16, 2023

Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, in the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA escapes : no Decree issued against him

 

Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, in the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA is unethical and clearly dishonest. He does not deny reports which say that he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and so non traditionally. In this way he avoids affirming Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So he escapes a  Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions being issued against him by Archbishop Augustine di Noia, the Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.

The Judicial Vicar in New Hampshire has brazenly issued a legal Decree against the St. Benedict Center(SBC) in Richmond, New Hampshire. They affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, when, interpreted rationally.

Unlike Fr. Georges de Laire, Brother Andre Marie micm, the Superior, of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, does not interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. So there is no  break with EENS as it was defined by the Fourth Lateran Council(1215).

All the religious communities in New Hampshire are being forced to interpret Magisterial Documents falsely for political reasons.

This is coercion. The Judicial Vicar is dishonest and also wants the SBC to follow him. Since the religious community, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the SBC in the diocese of Manchester, are honest and interpret the baptism of desire etc, rationally, he is forcing them to follow his Decree of Prohibitions.

The Catholic dogma outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation has been discarded by him and he considers himself a Catholic. Now by  interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and politically he is supported by the Left and the CDF. No one in the Curia of the diocese of Manchester denies what is being mentioned here.

The restrictions of the Decree imposed upon the Catholic religious community,  could also apply to Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester and Archbishop Augustine di Noia at the Vatican.

Damien Fisher correspondent for the New Hampshire Union Leader writes reports referring to the SBC as ‘ultra traditionalists’. This is even though the SBC affirm the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II. There is no correction from the Judicial Vicar. Fisher and his wife are not asked to affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally in harmony with Feeneyite EENS.They are offiically allowed to be deceptive.-Lionel Andrades



MAY 10, 2023

Damien Fisher writing in the New Hampshire Union Leader , USA has reports calling the St. Benedict Center (SBC), Richmond, NH, ‘ultra traditionalists’ .This is even though the SBC accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and interprets them rationally, unlike the Diocese of Manchester in NH.

Damien Fisher writing in the New Hampshire Union Leader , USA  has reports calling the St. Benedict Center (SBC), Richmond, NH, ‘ultra traditionalists’ .This is even though the SBC accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and interprets them rationally, unlike the Diocese of Manchester in NH.

Fisher refers to the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary as ultra traditionalists when the community in New Hampshire affirms the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II and interpret them in harmony with Tradition.

Damien’s wife Simcha, refers to the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH, as a schismatic and ultra traditionalist group. But the SBC accepts Vatican Council II. They accept the Council interpreted rationally and reject the Council interpreted irrationally. They also acknowledge Pope Francis is the pope. They affirm all Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Catechisms etc) which they interpret only rationally.

 It is Damien and Simcha Fisher who do not accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally. This is schism. Since they interpret the Council irrationally they are also re-interpreting the Creeds non traditionally. This is schism with the past Magisterium.The irrational premise creates schism and heresy.

Simcha Fischer says that the SBC are Anti Semitic. The SBC has clarified that they are not against all Jews. They oppose the Jewish Left which does not represent all Jews, like Orthodox Jews who oppose abortion, LGBT activity and Zionism.Orthodox Jews oppose the ADL.Similarly Fr. Leonard Feeney was not against all Jews in general.

It is the Simchas’ and the mainline Catholic Church which is in schism today when they irrationally interpret Church Magisterial Documents, for political left-reasons.

If Fr. Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA would interpret Vatican Council II rationally would then he would be Feeneyite on EENS like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

How can Brother Andre Marie micm the Superior at the St. Benedict Center, NH who accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, only when it is interpreted rationallyand who accepts Pope Francis as the pope, be labeled ‘ultra traditionalist’, ‘schismatic’ and ‘anti Semitic’?  - Lionel Andrades

 

https://www.unionleader.com/news/religion/religious-community-raises-money-despite-restrictions/article_b7b4f383-c0db-5c0f-be40-4a7e2ccafa3c.html

https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/celebrating-nfp-awareness-week-qa-simcha-fisher

https://nhjournal.com/author/damienfisher/

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/damien-fisher-writing-in-new-hampshire.html

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Lionel Andrades

Catholic layman in Rome,

Promoter of the interpretation of the rational interpretation of the Second Vatican Council..

  Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, one rational and the other irrational.One is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version that is heretical, non-traditional, and schismatic, when there is a rational option that is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter: LionelAndrades1

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/those-who-affirm-vatican-council-ii-and.html



MARCH 30, 2023

When I wear my badge I am affirming the Catholic Faith. This is my faith as a Catholic.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/when-i-wear-my-badge-i-am-affirming.html

 MARCH 20, 2023

An Augustinian Recollect priest at the church Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, yesterday agreed with me. He said Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/an-augustinian-recollect-priest-at.html


 MARCH 15, 2023



Wikipedia’s entries on Vatican Council II, extra ecclesiam nulla sales, Fr. Leonard Feeney, Feeneyism, etc reek with the Boston Heresy of the popes from Pius XII to Francis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/wikipedias-entries-on-vatican-council.html

 MARCH 13, 2023


To reject the Creeds, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II interpreted rationally is a mortal sin of faith. This is being done by the priests of the SSPX.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/to-reject-creeds-catechism-of-catholic.html

MARCH 12, 2023



I am following the pre and post Vatican Council II - Church, which does not change.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/i-am-following-pre-and-post-vatican.html






Tyler, Texas


NO NON APOSTOLIC VISITATION MUST BE ALLOWED

Jesse Romero and John Henry Weston must not allow a   non apostolic visitation by bishops to Tyler, Texas and other dioceses. The Vatican and the USCCB are deceptive on Vatican Council II . This is public. No future bishop must be allowed at Tyler, Texas who forces a non magisterial  interpretation of Creeds and Councils,  on the diocese. A bishop who interprets Vatican Council II with the invisible-people-are-visible fantasy premise is automatically disqualified. He must be told to go back.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/sister-maria-philomena-micm-goes-for.html


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/staugustine-institute-of-wisdom-sai.html


FAKE INSPECTOR BISHOPS

An inspector-bishop who interprets Vatican Council II with the common fake premise, inference and non-traditional conclusion is a liar.

Catholics in Texas must set a standard for the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms.

The Vatican’s Dicastery for Bishops Visitation is ‘un-apostolic’ when they dictate a fake interpretation of all Church Documents. So they change the understanding of the Councils, Creeds and Catechisms and call it Catholic.

Tyler, must ask the Vatican and the USCCB to only send bishops, who are honest. If they are dishonest and pulling a fast one, it is not legal.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/blog-post.html



BISHOPS FOLLOW THE LOHO MISTAKE

It may be mentioned, in background information, that Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston was interpreting the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) rationally like the Council of Florence (1442) and the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions for EENS.He was also interpreting the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I), rationally, as not being physically visible in our human reality (Bread of Life by Fr. Leonard Feeney).The 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) to the Archbishop of Boston, a political letter, interpreted invisible cases of the BOD and I.I as being visible exceptions for the dogma EENS.This was the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican making an objective mistake, officially. They  slandered the St. Benedict Center and Fr. Leonard Feeney. Pope Francis, the USCCB and the ADL supported the irrational 1949 Letter as did the popes from Pius XII. The popes did not ask how could invisible people on earth who are now in Heaven also be visible on earth and be visible exceptions for EENS ?  How could they be in two places at the same time, contradicting the Principle of Non Contradiction of Aristotle?





Yet this is the reasoning of the 1949 Letter (LOHO) and its New Theology is accepted by Pope Francis, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the Congregation for Bishops.


BISHOPS VIOLATE PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION

Bishop Gerald Kicanus and Bishop Dennis Sullivan who reportedly led the Vatican-check at Tyler, Texas, interpret Vatican Council II with the mistake of the LOHO. They violate the Principle of Non Contradiction. This is dishonest. It is not Catholic and not canonical.

 


 If the bishops interpret all Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils etc) rationally then it would be apostolic and magisterial. A papal delegate or even a nuncio has to be Catholic according to Canon Law. According to secular law they must not lie and deceive the people.

BISHOP DANIEL FERNANDEZ TORRES

Bishop Daniel Fernandez Torres of the Diocese of Arecibo in Puerto Rico was the subject of a Vatican-check by Cardinal Blasé Cupich. It is reported that among other things he would not send his seminarians to the national seminary. At that seminary they would be interpreting Vatican Council II with the invisible people are visible premise. Cardinal Cupich chooses this deception and considers it magisterial.

BISHOP ROGELLO LIVIERES PLANO

In Paraguay, Bishop Rogello Livieres Plano was removed from the Diocese of Ciudad de Este in 2014 after a non apostolic visitation. The visitors, not in good standing with the pre-1949 Magisterium of the Catholic Church,  claimed he lacked collegiality. He had to follow the rest of the liberal Church approved by the Vatican.They have no theological foundation in Vatican Council II (rational).



BISHOP DOMINIQUE REY

This year the Dicastery of Bishops sent visitors who did not affirm Vatican Council II rationally to the diocese of Toulon-Frejus, France. If they 'imprudently' interpreted Vatican Council II honestly they would emerge as traditionalists, like Dom Alcuin Reid. Bishop Dominique Rey did not make it a condition that only those French bishops, come there and inspect the seminary, who interpret the Council rationally and so support Tradition.



FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF THE IMMACULATE

There was also a visitation of the battle-weary Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate in Italy. The visiting nun was a liberal hit-woman, who interpreted the Council fai da te ( do it yourself, as you like) to avoid accusations of being a closet Feeneyite. Pope Francis himself interprets Vatican Council II prudently and irrationally to not seem ‘rigid’. He wants the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate to do the same if they want their seminary back.


CARDINAL RAINER WOELKI

The German Cardinal Rainer Woelki passed the liberal visitation check. He interprets the Council irrationally and unethically like the rest of the German bishops,the CDF and Cardinal Muller.

Within the Catholic Church we now have a renegade and rebel Church. This is New Church.They  re-interpret all Church Documents as they like.This has to be checked. The bishops acts as if they canchoose what they want, like at McDonalds, when they inspect doctrine and theology in a diocese.This is an un-apostolic visitation and is not Magisterial. -Lionel Andrades

 https://catholicmasses.org/reports-vatican-ordered-investigation-targets-bishop-strickland-of-tyler-texas/










JUNE 22, 2023

Even Pope Francis returns to Tradition when he interprets Vatican Council II rationally. All the cardinals return to Tradition when they interpret Vatican Council II rationally

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/even-pope-francis-returns-to-tradition.html

 

 JUNE 22, 2023

These are Church Documents which Pope Francis does not affirm. He believes Vatican Council II (irrational) contradicts them and they are obsolete now

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/these-are-church-documents-which-pope.html

 

 

JUNE 22, 2023

Canonically he does not qualify to be a pope. Since even a Rector and Parish Priest, according to Canon Law, has to be a Catholic in public. He must affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church in public

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/canonically-he-does-not-qualify-to-be.html

 


 


JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis simply has to interpret the BOD, BOB and I.I as not being exceptions to EENS : heresy and sacrilege end (Graphics )

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-simply-has-to-interpret.html

  

JUNE 22, 2023

A pope cannot be Magisterial who supports the Boston Heresy. He must correct the error.There are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/a-pope-cannot-be-magisterial-who.html

 

 JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis supports the Boston Heresy of Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Rector of Boston College and the American Jesuits. This is not Magisterial. Heresy and schism are not Magisterial.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-supports-boston-heresy-of.html

 

 

 JUNE 22, 2023

It cannot be said, ‘to follow Pope Francis is to follow the Magisterium’ since Pope Francis rejects the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence, Cantata Domino (1442) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX when he accepts and interprets Vatican Council II irrationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/it-cannot-be-said-to-follow-pope.html

 


 




JUNE 22, 2023

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II rationally, he will be forced to accept Tradition like the Franciscans of the Immaculate. As Catholics learn that they have a choice- they can interpret the Council rationally, priests and bishops will, do the same. Future cardinals will only be able to interpret the Council

rationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/if-pope-francis-interprets-vatican_22.html

 

 

JUNE 22, 2023

I accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which I interpret rationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/i-accept-vatican-council-ii-and.html

 

 

JUNE 22, 2023

How can Pope Francis offer Holy Mass,he does not affirm the Nicene and Athanasius Creed in the original and traditional meaning ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/how-can-pope-francis-offer-holy-masshe.html


JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis cannot be apostolic or magisterial when he chooses the fake premie which I and others avoid in the interpretation of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-must-not-refer-to-his_22.html

 

 JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis and my interpretation of the Creeds is different.Priests do not say that I am wrong.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-and-my-interpretation-of_22.html

 

JUNE 22, 2023

The popes, cardinals and bishops are not apostolic on the Creeds, since they interpret them irrationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/the-popes-cardinals-and-bishops-are-not_22.html

 



JUNE 22, 2023

CDF is not magisterial on Vatican Council II. This is not the Magisterium. The Magisterium would interpret Vatican Council II rationally, ethically, traditionally and so non schismatically

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/cdf-is-not-magisterial-on-vatican.html

 

JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis must interpret Vatican Council II with the red not being an exception for the blue i.e. the red hypothetical passages are not practical exceptions for the orthodox blue passages which are in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This is the rational and honest interpretation of the Council. There is no other alternative.

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-must-interpret-vatican.html

JUNE 22, 2023

Ruth Graham at the New York Times and Nicole Winfield and Trisha Thomas of the Associated Press in Rome, are still interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. It is as if they have a political obligation to be unethical and dishonest.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/ruth-graham-at-new-york-times-and.html

JUNE 22, 2023

Why should all the cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms like cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Pope Francis and not like me? They have an obligation to be honest.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/why-should-all-cardinals-and-bishops.html


 





JUNE 22, 2023

This is not Magisterial.They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.They are choosing the false premise and inference to create a fake break with Tradition. This is a mortal sin since the Creeds are changed.Cardinals Grech and Hollerich cease to be cardinals until the scandal is ended. This press conference is political and not Catholic. This is a fake Gospel and not traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Jesus and the Bible judge.Jesus tells us people go to Hell..

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/this-is-not-magisterialthey-are.html

 

JUNE 21, 2023

Jules Gomes, Gaven Ashden, Bradley Eli, Diane Montagna and others do not discuss this issue to protect their self interests, their finances, careers etc. If Diane Montage called attention to this issue at the Press Conference with Cardinal Grech he could ask her if she interpreted Vatican Council II rationally and she could answer 'no'.If she said 'yes' she would lose her press credentials

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/jules-gomes-gaven-ashden-bradley-eli.html

 

 JUNE 21, 2023

Pope Francis, Cardinal Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, the former Commissar for the FFI and Cardinal Ladaria are saying that there are visible cases of LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc. This is unethical. It is not Catholic. They are forcing the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Comitato dell Immaculata to accept this dishonesty in exchange, for the canonical recognition of the FFI, freedom for the Third Order and the re-opening of the Terra Santa seminary and old church. This is coercion.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/incomplete-franciscans-of-immaculate-fr.html

 

JUNE 19, 2023

SSPX's District Superior in Italy does not affirm the Catholic faith in public

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/sspxs-district-superior-in-italy-does.html


 

JUNE 19, 2023

SSPX's District Superior in Italy does not affirm the Catholic faith in public

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/sspxs-district-superior-in-italy-does.html

 








 JUNE 4, 2023

We do not have unity on the Creeds in the Catholic Church.Liberalism no more has any theological basis in the Vatican Council II-text

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/we-do-not-have-unity-on-creeds-in.html

 



 

 JUNE 4, 2023

Invisible people cannot be exceptions for EENS. For me LG 8 etc refer to invisible cases. For Pope Francis, the cardinals, bishops and the SSPX they refer to visible cases. If they were invisible cases for them , then they would be Feeneyites. But they deny this. They deny that their interpretation of the baptism of desire (LG 14) etc is Feeneyite.So they imply that LG 8 etc refer to visible cases and so LG 8 etc are exceptions for EENS . This is Cushingism.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/invisible-people-cannot-be-exceptions.html

 

JUNE 3, 2023

The Judge in the De Laire-Voris case in New Hampshire would be interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally since this is a common error. This would be unethical. If he interprets the Council rationally he will become a Feeneyite like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, NH

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/the-judge-in-de-laire-voris-case-in-new.html

JUNE 1, 2023

Judiciary in New Hampshire must be honest

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/judiciary-in-new-hampshire-must-be.html




https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/news-media-must-accept-vatican-council.html

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JULY 10, 2017

Fort Worth Latin Mass community ask Bishop Olson not to give dispensations in inter faith marriages based on Vatican Council II ( Cushingism) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/07/fort-worth-latin-mass-community-ask.html



Lionel Andrades
Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )







-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/there-are-two-interpretations-of-nicene.html









FALSE PREMISE DEFINED 
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.


 With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/cardinal-reinhold-marx-of-munich.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/10/with-irrational-premise-nicene-creed-is.html   
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JUNE 22, 2023

The Principle of Non Contradiction also applies to a pope. They too must follow Newton's Laws of Physics

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/the-principle-of-non-contradiction-also.html

 

 

JUNE 22, 2023

A pope who changes the interpretation of the Creeds in the name of Vatican Council II which he does not interpret rationally is in mortal sin ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/a-pope-who-changes-interpretation-of.html

JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis is in heresy. He must affirm the Catholic Faith in public.Vatican Council II is the issue.The Council can be interpreted rationally. It then does not contradict Tradition

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-is-in-heresy-he-must.html

 

JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II (irrational). They refuse .They are correct. Why should they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-and-cardinal-braz-de-avez.html

 

 

JUNE 22, 2023

Pope Francis was not apostolic when he closed down the Terra Santa seminary of the Franciscans of the Immaculate in Boccea, Rome and the Holy Mother of God seminary, San Rafael, Mendoza, Argentina. He was interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. He made a mistake on Vatican Council II.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/06/pope-francis-was-not-apostolic-when-he.html