Friday, February 21, 2020

Joseph Shaw, John Lamont, Thomas Pink, John Rao and other Catholic traditionalist professors, use a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II : rupture with Vatican Council I

Even Joseph Shaw, John Lamont, Thomas Pink, John Rao and other Catholic traditionalist professors, use a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II.So they philosophically ( false observation, empirical error) and theologically ( outside the Church there is salvation, known salvation is the new theology) they reject or change the teachings of the popes ex cathedra. So Vatican Council II would contradict Vatican Council I, for them, even though there is a choice.
 They can choose to interpret magisterial documents with  the rational premise, inference and conclusion and then there would be no rupture with Vatican Council I.
Instead they interpret the Creeds and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)  with the false premise, inference and conclusion and then criticize the Feeneyites.
Now the traditionalists are non traditional. They attend the Latin Mass and call it the Traditional Latin Mass.There ecclesiology is a rupture with the past ecclesiology.This results with  the false interpretation of the baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood( BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) and in Vatican Council II, LG 8, UR 3, NA 3, GS 22 etc.Hypothetical cases are assumed to be non hypothetical.Then they are projected as objective exceptions to Tradition.
For the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century BOD, BOB and I.I were not objective exceptions to traditional EENS. It was with this understanding that they offered or attended the Traditional Latin Mass.
The present traditionalists are in schism with the popes over the centuries on EENS and the Creeds. This is first class heresy.It is not Tradition. They are following Pope Paul VI. It is the same for the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) whose bishops and priests criticize Pope Paul VI but interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and EENS, as he did.-Lionel Andrades

Adorazione Eucaristica - Medjugorje 6 luglio 2019

Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism; with the false premise instead of without it, to create a rupture with ex cathedra and infallible teachings of the Church.

Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism; with the false premise instead of without it, to create a rupture with ex cathedra and infallible teachings of the Church. He broke with the traditional interpretation of the Creeds and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and Pope Francis canonised him.Pope Benedict did not object.Instead he earlier conferred the title of Venerable on him.
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Pope Paul VI's re-interpretation of the Creeds and EENS, with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) being exceptions, was schism with the popes over the centuries.
BOD, BOB and I.I were always hypothetical for the popes and saints over the centuries.They could not be any thing else.
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Now even the Bologna School of Alberto Melloni, the Bose community of Enzo Bianchi and Andrea Riccardi's Sant Egidio community are in schism with the past popes on the Creeds, EENS and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q).They interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.Then they heretically reject or change the Creeds and other magisterial documents.
Pope Paul VI was in manifest public heresy and schism and yet was canonised.He was in rebellion since with an objective error he interpreted BOD, BOB and I.I and Vatican Council II.Then he created an artificial rupture with the past.This cannot be magisterial.The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake. He may have done this in ignorance.He was not corrected by Cardinal Wojtyla and Archbishop Marcel Lefevbvre, if they knew about it.-Lionel Andrades

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Archbishop Allen Vigneron in Detroit uses a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II and so he rejects the Vatican Council I-teaching on the pope being infallible ex cathedra.

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Archbishop Allen Vigneron in Detroit uses a false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II and so he rejects the Vatican Council I-teaching on the pope being infallible ex cathedra. He interprets the Creeds and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with the false premise, inference and conclusion.So he makes the Creeds and EENS obsolete in their original form. With the use of a false premise there is ' a development of doctrine' and dogmas , for him.
He could choose to use the rational premise, inference and conclusion and there would not be a rupture with de fide teachings like the Creeds and EENS. Also Vatican Council II and the Catechisms would not be a rupture with the Creeds, EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.The Profession of Faith would be the same for all Catholics.
With the change in the understanding of the Creeds, Catechisms, Vatican Council II, Profession of Faith, baptism of desire,baptism of blood, invincible ignorance, the present two popes and Archbishop Allen Vigneron, tell us that they reject Vatican Council II( rational version) and the teaching on the popes being infallible ex cathedra.Vatican Council II ( with the irrationality) is a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors, past ecclesology, Athanasius Creed etc).
The Creeds( Apostles, Nicene, Athanasius) and the dogma EENS are no more infallible, ex cathedra teachings.
Pope Paul VI rejected/changed the Creeds ,when he interpreted Vatican Council II with a false premise( Cushingism) instead of without it ( Feeneyism). Archbishop Vigneron, like Pope Francis and Pope Benedict, follows Pope Paul VI.-Lionel Andrades


February 20, 2020


Archbishop Allen Vigneron in Detroit unethically interprets Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents with a false premise, inference and conclusion : credibility poor 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/archbishop-allen-vigneron-archbishop-of.html

  January 12, 2012

Questions for the Canon Lawyers :Can Archbishop Allen Vigneron and Bishop Kevin Rhoades be considered Catholic if they refuse to affirm in public the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/01/questions-for-canon-lawyers-can.html

 September 19, 2013


Archdiocese of Detroit and Canon Law

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2013/09/archdiocese-of-detroit-and-canon-law.html

  AUGUST 5, 2017

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Faculty and students at Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit forced to use irrational Cushingism as a theology instead of Feeneyism: Michael Voris and CMTV also have to accept it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/faculty-and-students-at-sacred-heart.html

April 23, 2015


Superintendents of Catholic Schools in the Archdiocese of Detroit agree : irrationality being taught in Religion Class

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/04/superintendents-of-catholic-schools-in.html

 

April 21, 2015

Archbishop Arturo Cepeda, Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools,Detroit has no denial : he agrees an irrationality is taught to Catholic school children http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/bishop-arturo-cepeda-director-of.html

School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/school-children-in-archdiocese-of.html

April 22, 2015

Ideological celebration of Nostra Aetate without Ad Gentes 7 this October 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/04/ideological-celebration-of-nostra.html

Nostra Aetate does say that the Church is the' new people of God'. Catholics are the Chosen People.They have the Promised Jewish Messiah, the Eternal Covenant and the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/nostra-aetate-does-say-that-church-is.html 

If ' a ray of the Truth' (NA 2) is considered visible or invisible decides heresy http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/if-ray-of-truth-na-2-is-considered.html 

They want the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Ordinariate to accept Nostra Aetate ‘ a ray of the Truth’ as being visible for us http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/they-want-franciscans-of-immaculate-and.html

If someone is saved with ' a ray of the Truth' (Nostra Aetate 2) it is not known in 2014, so NA 2 does not contradict AG 7 or extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/if-someone-is-saved-with-ray-of-truth.html

Nostra Aetate does not state there are defacto, known cases saved in other religions

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/nostra-aetate-does-not-state-there-are.html#links

No known exceptions in Nostra Aetate to extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/no-known-exceptions-in-nostra-aetate-to.html#links

Nostra Aetate does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus : doctrinal opening for the SSPX http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/nostra-aetate-does-not-contradict-extra.html
 
Nostra Aetate does not say that Non Catholics do not need to convert into the Catholic Church - Fr.John Hunwicke http://liturgicalnotes.blogspot.it/2014/01/nostra-aetate-1.html

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