Pope Pius IX Did Not Teach Salvation Outside The Church

Signore Gesù allontana da noi tutto quello che non è degno di Te

We have two interpretations of Vatican Council II : Bishop Louis Tylka in the diocese of Peoria , Illinois chooses the irrational premise to create a false break with Catholic Tradition.This is not Catholic

Bishop Louis Tylka of the diocese of Peoria, Illinois chooses not a rational premise but an irrational premise, to interpret Vatican Council II, and create a false  break with Catholic Tradition. This is unethical.This is heresy. It is also not Catholic.

Yet it is the bishop who is telling the organisers of the March for Catholics that they are not Catholic.

Attorney Patricia M. Gibbon informed Joe Rigi, President Our Warpath and the organisers of the March for Catholics Sept 29-30 that they will not be allowed to enter the cathedral. The diocese does not consider them Catholics.

THE CURIA IN PEORIA MUST BE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE NOT CATHOLIC WHEN THEY CHOOSE THE FALSE PREMISE TO INTERPRET THE CREEDS, CATECHISM, EENS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II.

Step 1: The bishop, this attorney and the people  must know what is the False Premise. those who participate in the March must also know this . This is the First Step.

Step 2: The bishop and his attorney must be informed that they should interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise only.This is irrespective of what they think about this or that.The Irrational Premise is unethical for a bishop and an attorney.

Step 3: Ask the non Catholic media to also interpret Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise. This is irrespective if they are Catholic or non Catholic.

Step 4 : Tell the attorney, that it is unethical to be a certified attorney and use a False Premise, to interpret the Council.Also get this message across to other professionals,school teachers etc.

Step 5: Form a Vatican Councl II ( Rational) group which will check the use of Vatican Council ( Irrational) in the diocese at talks, books and articles authored, Confirmation and First Communion classes etc.

The bishop must be shown that according to secular law he is not allowed to choose the False Premise.  -Lionel Andrades

Diocese Bans March For Catholics From Praying The Rosary

https://www.ourwarpath.com/single-post/diocese-bans-march-for-catholics-from-praying-the-rosary

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 JULY 19, 2022

What is the False Premise ? Could you spell it out.

  What is the False Premise ?    Could you spell it out.

The False Premise is the action and result of confusing what is invisible as being visible, unknown as being known. So with reference to Vatican Council II, if LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc refer to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church in 2022 then this is the False Premise. With the  False Premise comes the False Inference.

So the False Premise is confusing hypothetical and invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being objective and personally known non Catholics  saved outside the Church in 1965-2022, without faith and baptism . They are saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) etc.

FALSE INFERENCE

So the premise decides the inference. If LG 16 etc refer to visible and known people saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and the baptism of water then Cardinal Ratzinger could infer that there are practical exceptions  for the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus.It is obsolete

FALSE CONCLUSION

So with the False Inference comes the False Conclusion. When LG 16 etc are practical exceptions for EENS etc then it could be concluded that Vatican Council II is a break with the past ecclesiology and the rest of Tradition.There is a break with the past Magisterium.

So the Conclusion is False since invisible people cannot be visible exceptions for EENS, the Syllabus of Errors  and the Athanasius Creed. This Creed says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.We cannot see people in Heaven and on earth at the same time.

So with the False Premise we have the False Conclusion which says Vatican Council II is a break with the Syllabus of Errors etc. It is False since LG 16 etc can only be invisible and theoretical for us human beings. If someone was saved as such it would be known only to God.

If there is an apple in a box of oranges then the 

apple is an exception because it is different but 

also because it is there in that box. Similarly an 

exception for EENS has to exist in our reality.-Lionel Andrades

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WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II 

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical to interpret Vatican Council II with the False and not Rational Premise.

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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PSALM 91 (Gregorian chant)- Harpa Dei

 Not everything about the faith I ponder is always seriously minded, though the truths of Catholicism I always mind seriously. What follows below began with a silly line to rest from yesterday's heady discussion.

Hell Bound Train

Ballad of a Ride to Hell

(Kind of a Johnny Cash rhythm)

By Fr. Jonathan Atchley

I called my friends together the other day

And said, “I hear there’s a train to Hell, going all the way.

Now I don’t believe in God but if you help me pay,

I’ll make a visit there and tell y’all about my stay.”

(Whoo Whoo)

Well, they laughed and joked but then agreed,

“We’ll get your ticket if that’s what you really need.

But here’s a rosary, just in case, you see,

‘Cause getting in is easy, but they don’t let you leave.”

(Whoo Whoo)

So I went to the station, which wasn’t hard to find,

I just asked directions from Satan in my mind.

I gave the Conductor my ticket but he said--

“Not so fast..you can’t just board and ride--

You have to do something to be worthy: I wanna see your pride.”

That weren’t so hard, so I showed him what I got,

And he smiled weird-like, said, here’s the ticket you bought!

He gave me that, and soon we’re on the tracks

Relaxing, smoking a cigar and just kicking back.

Folks around me seemed to enjoy the ride,

But I felt a little sleepy so I stepped outside.

When, with a whoop, holler and terrible din

We hit a storm, and I felt the train reeled in.

We stopped at the gates, massive, doors standing wide,

With a sign over top that read: Abandon All Hope Inside!

I began to dread my choice going on this trip,

Thinking maybe I’d made a mistake, a fatal, frightful slip.

There stood, too, a three-headed dog, massive as can be,

Satan tossed him a passenger and then we sailed through, free

From that mangy mutt; though all this made me feel

We’d not be leaving soon, and my dread became quite real.

(Whoo Whoo)

We zipped past souls, shriveled, shrouded in the dark,

Though now and again, you could clearly see the spark

From demons giving chase, with pitchforks aflame,

Cursing everyone they zapped, calling out their name.

The train then slowed and stopped, sorry souls pressed in close,

Drained and wafer thin, looking more like ghosts.

“Give us a ride!” One person begged and pled,

Till a devil sunk a pitchfork in and he fell back, dead.

But the dead can’t die, and I realized the truth,

So slow, but always there from when I first lost a tooth.

My parents warned me good, “the devil will get your hide,

If you aren’t humble, kind, and freely choose God’s side!”

This place didn’t seem so fun, contrary to what I was told,

And demons weren’t there to please, but only there to scold.

Now too late that misery and hate were on full display,

I felt sick at heart, desperately wanting to get away.

But Satan sidled up to me, and snarled more than spoke:

“There ain’t no getting’ away from here, for your kind of folk!”

With that I yelled, and hollered loud as I could, in fear:

And with a jolt, woke from sleep…and this frightful nightmare.

God in His goodness, gives us chances…choices to serve,

Many more, I now admit, more than we deserve.

So if you’re feeling ornery, and wanting to commit a sin—

Remember where this train will go, and that you really don’t want in!

(Distant wail: Whoo Whoo)

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