Fr.Dwight Longenecker interprets Vatican Council II without the false premise he will become a rad trad.He will then come to the real Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
Thursday, October 22, 2020
Boston Archdiocese Catholic Tv interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, creates imaginary exceptions to the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology fo the Catholic Church and then encourages prayers for deceased non Christian who are in Hell according to the teachings of th Magisterium before the popes used the false premise to intepret BOd, BOB and I.I as exceptions to Feeneyite EENS
Boston Archdiocese Catholic Tv interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise, creates imaginary exceptions to the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology fo the Catholic Church and then encourages prayers for deceased non Christian who are in Hell according to the teachings of th Magisterium before the popes used the false premise to intepret BOd, BOB and I.I as exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. -Lionel Andrades
Like the website Whispers of Restoration the Voice of the Family mentions the Baltimore Catechism without differentiating between Cushingism and Feeneyism.They also interpret all the Catechisms with Cushingism.So they maintain the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition
Like the website Whispers of Restoration the Voice of the Family mentions the Baltimore Catechism without differentiating between Cushingism and Feeneyism.They also interpret all the Catechisms with Cushingism.So they maintain the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
For me there is no rupture with the Athanasius Creed. When the Baltimore Catechism mentions the Baptism of Desire it does not contradict the Athanasius Creed. For me EENS ha no objective exceptions . This I call Feeneyism.-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 3, 2019
Peter Kwasniewski and Whispers of Restoration do not know how to handle it : they violate the Principle of Non Contradiction and are in a swamp
KWASNIEWSKI MADE AN OBJECTIVE ERROR
For Peter Kwasniewski a professor of philosophy and theology, whose articles are recommended by the young menbers at Whispers of Restoration, all that is important are the rubrics, vestments and rituals of the Latin Mass even if the theology and doctrines are heretical.This is also the understanding of the volunters at Whispers of Restoration(WR).
They have given us a list of old Catechisms which is appreciated but they interpret these catechisms with the false premise and inference to create a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX on extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), an ecumenism of return etc.
INTERPRET POPES CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER
So they actually interpret the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation) as a rupture with EENS.They wrongly assume that the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are objective exceptions to EENS and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
So they actually interpret the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation) as a rupture with EENS.They wrongly assume that the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are objective exceptions to EENS and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
So the Catechism of Pope Pius X would be a rupture with the Syllabus fo Errors and also EENS as it was interpreted by the Magisterium in the Middle Ages.
In other words the traditionalists at the time of Pope Pius IX and Pope Pius X were contradicting themselves for Whispers of Restoration and Peter Kwasniewski.
NEW THEOLOGY OF THE TRADITIONALISTS
NEW THEOLOGY OF THE TRADITIONALISTS
This is also the New Theology of Fr.John Zuhlsdorf, Chris Ferrara, Roberto dei Mattei, Joseph Shaw, John Lamont, Thomas Pink,Fr.Brian Harrison, the St.Benedict Centers, Rorate Caeli correspondents and the SSPX bishops and priests.It is the same for cardinals Kasper and Koch, Cardinal Ladaria and Archbishop Guido Pozzo.
It is with the false premise and inference that Peter Kwasniewski interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with the past and then rejects the Council.
AQUINAS CONTRADICTS HIMSELF FOR WR AND KWASNIEWSKI
AQUINAS CONTRADICTS HIMSELF FOR WR AND KWASNIEWSKI
Kwasniewski referred to as a Thomistic scholar, on the website 1Peter5, would interpret St. Thomas Aquinas like the liberals. Aquinas affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS. However when he mentions the case of the man in the jungle living in ignorance or the catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it, he is referring to an allegedly known person saved outside the Church for Kwasniewski and the traditionalists. So what was hypothetical for Aquinas is a concrete exception to EENS for Kwasniewski.
This is also the false reasoning of the liberals and the faculty at the Franciscan University of Steubenville where Peter Kwasneiwski taught.He writes regularly for New Liturgical Movement, OnePeterFive, LifeSiteNews, and Rorate Caeli.1
OFFERS THE LATIN MASS WITH THE NEW ECCLESIOLOGY
He offers Mass in Latin while affirming the New ecclesiology based on BOD, BOB and I.I being exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.This is schism with the past popes who did not see BOD, BOB and I.I as being known people saved outside the Catholic Church.It was the liberal theologians who made this error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) and then repeated it at Vatican Council II.
POLITICALLY CORRECT ON EENS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II
So Kwasneiwski is politically correct with the Left,like other traditionalists, and will not interpret EENS like Fr.Leonard Feeney for whom BOD, BOB and I.I literally did not exist.
He is also politically correct with the Left on Vatican Council II. Since he interprets LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3 as being exceptinos to EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century. He had no criticism when Cardinal Luiz Ladaria interpreted Lument Gentium 8 as an exception to the past exclusivist ecclesiology(Placquet Deo Press Conference). He also had no comment when Pope Benedict interpreted Vatican Council as a rupture with EENS(Avvenire,March 2016)
NO RESTORATION WITH HERESY AND CONFUSION
NO RESTORATION WITH HERESY AND CONFUSION
So it is no surprise that the young volunters at Whispers of Restoration are confused.They came to this good project with a lot of good will.
But Kwasniewski cannot help them and neither can Roberto Dei Mattei, Chris Ferrara or Steve Skoject. Since none of them want to affirm the taboo Feeneyite interpretation of EENS or my interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with Feeneyite EENS.
They are aware that the Catechisms contradict each other and there is doctrinal confusion.This would be normal since they are violating the Principle of Non Contradiction but it is politically correct with the Left and the Vatican. .-Lionel Andrades
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https://www.peterkwasniewski.com/about
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AUGUST 9, 2018
Traditional Catechisms on Whispers of Restoration support the old exclusivist ecclesiology but the team at the website interpret these catechisms as a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors,EENS and the rest of Traditionhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/traditional-catechisms-on-website.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/traditional-catechisms-on-website.html
THURSDAY, AUGUST 9, 2018
Repost : No Restoration with Cushingism.Not possible : There is not going to be a Restoration with Cushingism.Mattei and Ferrara are part of the problem. So is Whispers of Restoration and 1Peter5
AUGUST 5, 2018
There is not going to be a Restoration with Cushingism.Mattei and Ferrara are part of the problem. So is Whispers of Restoration and 1Peter5
Whispers of Restoration should have an article on Vatican Council II( Feeneyite). I have said it a few times. There is no comment from them.They are another traditionalist Cushingite website.They sell books written by Chris Ferrara and Roberto dei Mattei who base their understanding of Vatican Council II and EENS upon the upon the heresy in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO).There is no comment coming from them or from others from the Lefbrivist school of traditionalists.A few years have pased and they have no opinion on this issue.
Can the baptism of desire have two interpretations? No answer.
Can there be two interpretations of Vatican Council II? No answer.
ONE WAY ONLYThe Letter of the Holy Office 1949 has been teaching heresy when it says every one does not need to be a member of the Catholic Church, for salvation.Since the Letter reasons wrongly that invisible and unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are objective and practical exceptions to the de fide teaching, on all needing to be a member of the Church for salvation( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441).How can invisible cases of non Catholics be an an exception to traditional EENS according to the old catechisms? Yet this is how Ferrara and Mattei reason.So they have nothing to say. This is how they reasoned for 50 years.
They are not allowed to think in any other way.
1PETER5 SERVES ONLY CUSHINGISM
1PETER5 SERVES ONLY CUSHINGISMIt's the same story on the website 1Peter5 and traditionalist bloggers.The only food they serve at their tables is Cushingite.No choice.They interpret all magisterial documents in only one way.
Someone said ,"This is what the Church teaches ".But the Church also supports Vatican Council II (Cushingite) so why do they reject it?
If they feel obliged to follow Pius XII they why not also John XXIII and Paul VI ?
The interpretation of Vatican Council II according to the Left and the present two popes is heretical.It is the same with EENS.
The website Whispers of Restoration presents itself as being traditionalist but they support the official and liberal heresy on salvation. If they avoid the LOHO mistake it's a new Vatican Council II.It would not be the traditionalism of Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops who supported Cardinal Richard Cushing and Pope Pius XII.
The theology of the websites Whispers of Restoration and 1Peter5 is based on LOHO.It is irrational.They can allegedly see people in Heaven and on earth saved without the baptism of water.This is also the interpretation of the Masons.The LOHO mistake is used to create a rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).
We have to reject the second part of the LOHO, which is irrational and non traditional,and then we can have a traditional interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Today's 'traditionalists' are not really traditional especially the Lefebvrist school.Since they are in a rupture with the old ecclesiology of the Church which was Feeneyite and is expressed in the traditional Catechisms available on the website Whispers of Restoration.
Today's 'traditionalists' are not really traditional especially the Lefebvrist school.Since they are in a rupture with the old ecclesiology of the Church which was Feeneyite and is expressed in the traditional Catechisms available on the website Whispers of Restoration.
They are in a rupture with EENS and the past ecclesiology since BOD,BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS for them.
FR.CEKADA POLITICALLY CORRECT
I think of Fr. Anthony Cekada who now knows that there are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I in the present times and there were none in the past.But he keeps repeating his old line on 'Feeneyism',since it is politically correct.He does not have it in him to apologize and correct himself and others on this issue.
FR.CEKADA POLITICALLY CORRECT
I think of Fr. Anthony Cekada who now knows that there are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I in the present times and there were none in the past.But he keeps repeating his old line on 'Feeneyism',since it is politically correct.He does not have it in him to apologize and correct himself and others on this issue.
If he announces that he has started to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with Feeneyism, in which hypothetical cases are just hypothetical and not objective exceptions to EENS, the Left may not allow him to teach.It is the same with Bishop Donald Sanborn who has politically correct articles on Feeneyism(according to the Left) on line.So their sedevacantist seminary and that of the 'Novus Ordo' seminaries in Florida,which they criticize have the same Cushingite approach to Vatican Council II etc.There is no difference in theology, new doctrines and worldly prudence among both groups there.So they are given the mandatum to teach from the bishops and the local secular authorities.They have compromised on doctrine and theology in real life.
It was the same at the recent Lepanto FoundationConference in Rome when the New Theology was being criticized by the speakers, who in reality use the New Theology, Cushingism, to interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and EENS.Roberto dei Mattei and John Lamont like Fr. Anthony Cekada remain politically correct with the Left.All is well. It is as if they use the LOHO mistake to stay alive.
It was the same at the recent Lepanto FoundationConference in Rome when the New Theology was being criticized by the speakers, who in reality use the New Theology, Cushingism, to interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and EENS.Roberto dei Mattei and John Lamont like Fr. Anthony Cekada remain politically correct with the Left.All is well. It is as if they use the LOHO mistake to stay alive.
Similarly it seems difficult for Louis Verrecchio to say that UR 3 in Vatican Council II refers to a hypothetical case.I e-mailed him the correction.This was not the first time. There is no comment from him, for or against. It's as if he does not understand.
UR 3 refers to a hypothetical and theoretical cases for us and not someone practically seen in Heaven, saved as a Protestant in his religion.What's so difficult to understand about this?
He will continue to interpret UR 3 as being a non Catholic who has been saved outside the Church and is known personally to him. So of course it becomes a rupture with the dogma EENS.
UR 3 refers to a hypothetical and theoretical cases for us and not someone practically seen in Heaven, saved as a Protestant in his religion.What's so difficult to understand about this?
He will continue to interpret UR 3 as being a non Catholic who has been saved outside the Church and is known personally to him. So of course it becomes a rupture with the dogma EENS.
Roberto dei Mattei and Chris Ferrara wrote books on Vatican Council II not knowing about the difference between Cushingism and Feeneyism( according to L.A) in the interpretation of the Council.The website Whispers of Restoration is promoting these books.
There is not going to be a Restoration with Cushingism. Mattei and Ferrara are part of the problem. So is Whispers of Restoration and1Peter5.-Lionel Andrades
WEDNESDAY, JULY 25, 2018
If I had created this website I would not have to hide my name.Since I affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which is not a rupture with the old catechisms.For me there is no change in ecclesiology in the Church from 1555 to 2018.
Interestingly the team which has created the website Whispers of Restoration have kept their names hidden.Probably because the catechisms since 1555 with traditional Feeneyite theology would be a rupture with Vatican Council II.The present two popes interpret the Council with Cushingism.
Vatican Council II(Cushingite) of course is heretical and should not be accepted .There is a rational and traditional choice available.
But the Whisperers of Restoration team could be accused of not affirming Vatican Council II.
If I had created this website I would not have had to hide my name.Since I affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which is not a rupture with the old catechisms.
For me there is no change in ecclesiology in the Church from 1555 to 2018.
So when I affirm EENS I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. I mean that I reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) like the traditionalists, but I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).-Lionel Andrades
Fr.Francesco Giordano and faculty at Angelicum interpret Aquinas with Cushingism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/frfrancesco-giordano-and-faculty-at.html
JULY 25, 2018
Whispers of Restoration needs an article on Vatican Council II (Feeneyite)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whispers-of-restoration-needs-article.html
JULY 25, 2018
Whispers of Restoration must include the 1994 Catechism with a note on interpreting it with Feeneyism and avoiding the common Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whispers-of-restoration-must-include.html
JULY 24, 2018
Official heresy - with false doctrines and irrational theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/official-heresy-with-false-doctrines.html
JULY 24, 2018
Whispers of Restoration - We have to face the visible-invisible, Cushingite-Feeneyite distinction and then proclaim the Faith
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whispers-of-restoration-we-have-to-face.html
JULY 23, 2018
JULY 23, 2018
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