Tuesday, September 17, 2019

For Cardinal Burke and Mattei Salvini the theology of the Latin Mass today is in a rupture with the Traditonal Latin Mass of the past (Graphics)











-Lionel Andrades

 SEPTEMBER 17, 2019

The Latin Mass which Cardinal Burke offers and Matteo Salvini attends has a salvation theology, understanding of mission, ecclesiology( understanding of Church) and ecumenism different from that of the Traditional Latin Mass in the 16th century or the Mass in Greek in the first century. Similarly Cardinal Burke does not tell Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees Mogg, Catholics in England, that Vatican Council II today is in harmony with exclusive salvation as it was known to those who attended the Traditional Latin Mass




SEPTEMBER 17, 2019


No FIUV position paper on the traditionalists St. Benedict Center, NH ,USA (Graphics)






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No FIUV position paper on the traditionalists St. Benedict Center, NH ,USA (Graphics)




SEPTEMBER 16, 2019


There is no position paper put out by the Federation International Una Voce (FIUV) on the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire,USA being asked by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Diocese of Manchester, USA,to consider the Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC 847-848) as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).In other words the Syllabus of Errors with invincible ignorance etc has exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and ecumenism of return. Also invincible ignorance mentioned in the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradicts exclusive salvation in the Church, mentioned in the same Catechism

Again we have more drama and rhetoric from Michael Matt with no substance in his latest video.He refused to affirm Vatican Council II with Lumen Gentium not being an exception to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) otherwise the trolls will come and take away his precious Remnant media. He wants to unite the clans, who are all in heresy and schism with him, as was Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

Again we have more drama and rhetoric from Michael Matt with no substance in his latest video.He refused to affirm Vatican Council II with Lumen Gentium not being an exception to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) otherwise the trolls will come and take away his precious Remnant media.
He wants to unite the clans, who are all in heresy and schism with him, as was Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
He  is united to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Pope Francis on theology and doctrine and will make sure that the traditionalists from Bishop Williamson's community are not invited to his conference, nor those who affirm the strict interpretation of EENS.Then he refers to traditionalists in general today as if their ecclesiology is the same as in the past.He assumes they come to Holy Mass today with the same past theology and not that of Pope Francis.False.
Like Pope Francis he interprets the Syllabus of Errors as a rupture with EENS since the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are objective exceptions to EENS.
Like Pope Francis he interprets the Athanasius Creed as a rupture with EENS since BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions.This is first class heresy  but it is politically acceptable and his is all that matters with many in the Church.
Like Pope Francis he interprets Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22 etc being exceptions to EENS and attends the rubrics of the old Mass with the pope's new theology.Matt like his father is in heresy and schism with the past popes and their Magisterium before Pius XII but he does not comment on this.Probably he has to look to Chris Ferrara for help and there is no help coming from that direction.
He wants to united the clans, who presently are all united to Pope Francis and to heresy and schism, like him.
If he interpreted Vatican Council II with LG 8 etc not being exceptions to exclusive salvation and the past ecclesiology and if he interpreted EENS without BOD, BOB and I.I being exceptions, then he could unite the clans based on rational and traditional doctrine and theology. But then the persecution would be severe and he may even have to give up his media.So he does not do this. Instead he speaks of a future persecution and does not address this particular issue.
It is deception for Catholics to be informed and yet they interpret Lumen Gentium as an exception to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. This is being done by the Voice of the Family, Life Sites News, Church Militiant TV, the Lepanto Foundation...They all choose to interpret magisterial documents with a false premise to please the Vatican and the Left and so keep their business going and family interests taken care of.-Lionel Andrades





The Latin Mass which Cardinal Burke offers and Matteo Salvini attends has a salvation theology, understanding of mission, ecclesiology( understanding of Church) and ecumenism different from that of the Traditional Latin Mass in the 16th century or the Mass in Greek in the first century. Similarly Cardinal Burke does not tell Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees Mogg, Catholics in England, that Vatican Council II today is in harmony with exclusive salvation as it was known to those who attended the Traditional Latin Mass.

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Cardinal Raymond Burke met Matteo Salvini who also wrongly interprets Vatican Council II  superficially as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.This is the only interpretation of the Council they both know. 
So the Latin Mass which Cardinal Burke offers and Matteo Salvini attends has a salvation theology, understanding of mission, ecclesiology( understanding of Church) and ecumenism different from that of the Traditional Latin Mass in the 16th century or the Mass in Greek in the first century.
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Similarly Cardinal Burke does not tell Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees Mogg, Catholics in England, that Vatican Council II today  is in harmony with exclusive salvation as it was known to those who attended the Traditional Latin Mass. 
Jacob Rees Mogg attends Mass in Latin and also in the vernacular.
Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg do not know that the Church still teaches exclusive salvation which is the basis for the proclamtion of the Social Reign of Christ the King.They do not know this since the cardinal of Westminister and the bishops of Britain will not announce it.
Similarly Joseph Shaw and the members of the Latin Mass Society and the Federation Internationald Una Voce will not make an announcement on this issue or issue a position paper.Shaw will not announce that Lumen Gentium does not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He is concerned about a reaction from the Left.-Lionel Andrades

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Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke would be in schism with the popes over the centuries, along with the schismatics popes from Paul VI to Francis, who interpreted BOD, BOB and I.I as examples of known non Catholics saved outside the Church. So they became exceptions to traditional EENS

How can Cardinal Raymond Burke say that he believes in Jesus and His Church when he will not interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so in in harmony with exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return ?
How can he call himself a Catholic when he cannot say that Lumen Gentium does not have any exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) ?
He must make an announcement and clarify that LG 8 (the theoretical case of known non Catholics saved with elements of sanctification and truth in other other religions leading to salvation) does not contradict EENS as it was known to Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center of his time.Similarly in 2019 we do not know of any who has been saved where the Catholic Church allegedly exists, outside its visible boundaries.(LG 8).
Similarly  LG 14 ( the hypothetical case of the unknown catechumen who dies before receiving the baptism of water which he sought and now is allegedly saved) refers to a theoretical case only. It is not a concrete and practical exception to Feeneyite EENS, the Syllabus of Errors on EENS or the Athanasius Creed on EENS.Theoretical cases cannot be exceptions to EENS. Speculation is not a concrete person saved outside the Church.
Similarly LG 16 ( the hypothetical case of an unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance or a good conscience and who is saved) is also theoretical and speculative for us human beings. It is not a literal case. It is not someone whose name and surname we know in the present times. So LG 16 cannot be an exception to EENS as it was known to the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.
 Without these corrections and clarifications Cardinal Burke's understanding of Vatican Council II is superficial and irrational.
He would intentionally be creating schism with the popes before Pius XII. They all interpreted the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as hypothetical cases only.
He would be in schism with the popes over the centuries, along with the schismatics popes from Paul VI to Francis,  who interpreted BOD, BOB and I.I as examples of known non Catholics saved outside the Church. So they became exceptions to what the media calls the 'rigorist interpretation ' of the dogma EENS. The Feeneyite version.-Lionel Andrades

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Cardinal Raymond Burke must see that he like the pope supports heresy and a rupture with Tradition when he interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference and ignores the rational alternative.

Cardinal Raymond Burke must see that he like the pope supports heresy and a rupture with Tradition when he interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference and ignores the rational alternative.
Cardinal Raymond Burke needs to see that thre is no known salvation outside the visible Church; there are no known non Catholics saved without  'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG14) this year.This is a simple observation.
We humans cannot meet or see any non person saved outside the Church.It is at this point that we can create or avoid schism in the Church.
Schism has been created by assuming there is known salvation outside the Church in the present times and these are examples of non Catholics saved without faith and baptism in the Catholic Church. So it is wrongly assumed that there is no more exclusive salvation in the Church and there is no more an exclusivist understanding of Church with reference to salvation and that there is no more an ecumenism of return.So the Syllabus of Error on EENS has been contradicted.Also the Athanasius Creed on EENS has been rejected. The Nicene Creed has been changed to , ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire, blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.'Other teachings of the Church related to EENS would also be changed. So there is a false interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. All this is heresy and schism with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
It is only with this irrationality that there is a theological possibility for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Evangelisation, New....
All this new theology is based upon outside the Church there is visible and known salvation.
Cardinal Burke must identify this error and correct it.
-Lionel Andrades

 


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