The false premise was there in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) and Pope Pius ignored it.
The false premise was there at Vatican Council II and Pope Paul VI ignored it.
The false premise was there in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II ignored it. He also ignored the error in LOHO and Vatican Council II.
The false premise was there in Pope Benedict's statements and books on Vatican Council II. Ecclesiology, New Ecumenism etc and he promoted it.
The false premise is there in the statements of Pope Francis and he promotes it. He also promotes the false premise in the interpretation of LOHO, Vatican Council II, Catechism of the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict's books and talks. -Lionel Andrades
The Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, Vatican has always been using the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus. -Lionel Andrades
Makes factual error in 2004 report released on the internet. Subtle criticism of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
Unbelievable but it’s true. The Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, Vatican claims Pope Pius XII condemned in 1949 ‘an exclusive interpretation’ of the dogma “Extra ecclesiam nulla salus”.(1)
This is a reference to the priest Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. It is assumed by the Pontifical Council that he was excommunicated for heresy. Since he preached that everyone needs to be a visible, formal member of the Catholic Church for salvation. He recognized no exceptions as the baptism of desire or non Catholics being saved in invincible ignorance.
1. A reading of the text of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office issued during the pontificate of Venerable Pope Pius XII shows that no where is it said that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy.
2. Assuming he was excommunicated for heresy then it would mean that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (Holy Office) claims numerous popes, saints, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus thrice defined, as heretical. It would mean Vatican Council II (LG 14,AG 7) is also heretical.
The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus indicates every non Catholic needs to convert into the Church for salvation. It does not refer to invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire as an exception. Fr. Leonard Feeney preached this teaching. This was the centuries-old interpretation of the dogma.
Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7) tells us that all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. No magisterial text, including Vatican Council II says that those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire is explicitly known to us. Since they are always implicit they do not contradict the dogma or LG 14, AG 7 of Vatican Council II.
Vatican Council II admits the possibility of a non Catholic being saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire, a good conscience etc. However it does not claim that these cases are known to us.
The Pontifical Council for Christian Unity suggests Pope Pius XII contradicted himself in the Letter of the Holy Office. Since Pope Pius XII referred to ‘the dogma’, ‘the infallible teaching’. The dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence tells us that all non Catholics in Boston and the rest of the world are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they enter the Catholic Church and remain a member. The dogma specifically mentions Orthodox Christians and Protestants. So Pope Pius XII here supports Fr. Leonard Feeney on doctrine; on the dogma.
With the Assisi interfaith meeting next week and criticism of the false ecumenism, of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity probably this report with an objective, factual error was made available.
For discerning Catholics this 2004 report is a slander of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and its Prefect, Cardinal William Levada.
-Lionel Andrades
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In the course of the Council the “subsistit in” took the place of the previous “est”.[7] It contains in nuce the whole ecumenical problem.[8] The “est” claimed that the church of Christ Jesus “is” the Catholic Church. This strict identification of the church of Christ Jesus with the Catholic Church had been represented most recently in the encyclicals Mystici corporis (1943) and Humani generis (1950).[9] But even according to Mystici corporis there are people who, although they have not yet been baptised, are subsumed under the Catholic Church because that is their express desire (DS 3921). Therefore Pius XII had condemned an exclusive interpretation of the axiom “Extra ecclesiam nulla salus” already in 1949.-Pontifical Council For Promoting Christian Unity, Vatican Nov. 11,2004, the Decree on Ecumenism Read Anew After Forty Years. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/card-kasper-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20041111_kasper-ecumenism_en.html
Vatican website for clergy promotes 'theology of religions', Kung and Knitter : claims Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for the same interpretation of the dogma as the popes and saints
If Prof. Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise of the New Theology, the Italian Government may not continue to finance him.He would be taking the Catholic Church back to Tradition. -Lionel Andrades
John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the "Bologna School, interprets Vatican Council II with the common false premise.There is no transparency on this issue
The Italian government is funding Alberto Melloni's John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the headquarters of the so-called "Bologna School,"1guaranteedanother yearly million-euro funding for 2020–2022.Melloni uses the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II. It is only with a false premise, inference and conclusion that he makes the Council a rupture with Tradition. He could choose the rational premise, inference and conclusion.
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With this rational model, the Vatican, the Bologna School, Archbishop Pegro and Cardinal Matteo Zuppi , would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
ATHANASIUS CREED
'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...' ___________________________________
The political party Lega Salvini needs to take up the issue in the Italian Senate of the Italian priests Fathers Riccardo Petroni, Matteo Riboli, Lorenzo Mazzetti di Pietralata, Emanuele Lonardi and Enrico D'Urso deprived of the status of being a priest and made lay men, by Archbishop Peregro in Ferrara, who rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, supported by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican
The political party Lega Salvini needs to take up the issue in the Italian Senate of the Italian priests FathersRiccardo Petroni, Matteo Riboli, Lorenzo Mazzetti di Pietralata, Emanuele Lonardi and Enrico D'Urso deprived of the status of being a priest and made lay men, by Archbishop Peregro in Ferrara, who rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, supported by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican.
It is unethical and dishonest for the Archbishop and his Curia in Ferrara-Commachio, not to affirm the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed, the past exclusivist ecclesiology based upon the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and an ecumenism of return into the Catholic Church for the Lutherans and other Christians.This is not possible for Archbishop Peregro since he re-interprets Vatican Council II irrationally as did Pope Paul VI.
The Archbishop must be asked by Lega Mayor Alan Fabri to re-interpret the Creeds and Catechisms rationally, affirm the dogma EENS like the traditionalists and re instate the expelled priests.
An archbishop who cannot affirm the dogma EENS in public should not be an archbishop and he should not be allowed to expel priests who do affirm EENS rationally and traditionally.
In the Senate the Vatican must be asked to reaffirm the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II with the rational premise, inference and conclusion just like the Italian saints Padre Pio, Gemma Galgani, Catherine of Siena and the popes over the centuries.
Similarly the Senate must be asked why does the Italian Government annually finance the Bologna School of Professor Melloni 1 when he interprets Vatican Council II with the same irrational premise, inference and conclusionas does Archbishop Perego.A false rupture is created with the dogma EENS and the rest of Tradition, inthe same unethical way by Cardinal Matteo Zuppi, Archbishop of Bologna, who oversees Ferrara and Emilia Romano, where the Familia Christi serve.-Lionel Andrades
John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the "Bologna School, interprets Vatican Council II with the common false premise.There is no transparency on this issue
The Italian government is funding Alberto Melloni's John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the headquarters of the so-called "Bologna School,"1guaranteedanother yearly million-euro funding for 2020–2022.Melloni uses the irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II. It is only with a false premise, inference and conclusion that he makes the Council a rupture with Tradition. He could choose the rational premise, inference and conclusion.
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With this rational model, the Vatican, the Bologna School, Archbishop Pegro and Cardinal Matteo Zuppi , would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
ATHANASIUS CREED
'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly...' ___________________________________
Pope Francis interprets the Creeds with a false premise, inference and conclusion. This was un precedented over the centuries.
Pope Pius XII and Pope John XXIII and the following popes, interpreted extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with a false premise.Pope Paul VI and the following popes interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise.
Now Pope Francis interprets the Creeds and Vatican Council Ii with the false premise and so creates a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition on ecumenism, traditional ecclesiocentic mission, liturgy with the old exclusivist ecclesiology and traditional ecclesiology.It's a different Catholic Church now.The whole Church is following him in the error, conservatives and liberals.
Bishop Schneider, Maike Hickson and John Henry Weston continue to interpret LG 8 and UR 3 in Vatican Council II as exceptions to EENS. Bishop Bernard Fellay did this continously. He never corrected himself. He probably will go to the end of his life, with this error, like Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari.
If the popes interpret the Creeds without the false premise, like me, they would be opposed by the Jewish Left.There would be persecution.Now there is support.
The two popes do not affirm the Creeds to avoid a persecution of the Church. They have changed the faith-teachings of the Church.
So the official Profession of Faith and Oath of Office for Cardinals, Bishops, Rectors, Superiors and Parish Priests are mere words supporting heresy and dissent.
All the books in Italy which cite Vatican Council II, in general are in error, since the Council is interpreted with a false premise, inference and conclusion. So it is wrong for the Italian Government to annually finance the Bologna School of Alberto Melloni. He receives about a million a year it is reported.
Gabriele Albonetti of the Leftist Partito Democratico is member of the Board of Trustees of Melloni's Fondazione per le scienze religiose Giovanni XXIII, also called the Bologna School.
Melloni does not affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise, for then the Council would support the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Melloni's talks on Lutheranism would then be false.His talk on Italian society today being based on Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally , is also false.His talks on the Council supporting the liberalism of Pope Francis is also false.The interpretation of Vatican Council II with the irrationality, is now obsolete.
All the books and articles on Vatican Council II in Italy were written with a false premise, inference and conclusion.Lionel's Blog is an exception.Salvini's Lega political party could take up this issue in the Italian Senate
The political party Lega Salvini needs to take up the issue in the Italian Senate of the Italian priests Fathers Riccardo Petroni, Matteo Riboli, Lorenzo Mazzetti di Pietralata, Emanuele Lonardi and Enrico D'Urso deprived of the status of being a priest and made lay men, by Archbishop Peregro in Ferrara, who rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, supported by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican
La Scuola di Bologna sul Concilio Vaticano II dello storico Alberto Melloni è finanziata ogni anno dal governo di sinistra italiano quando interpreta il Concilio con una irrazionale premessa, inferenza e conclusione per respingere il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus se è stato interpretato nel papi Italiani nel corso dei secoli.
-Lionel Andrades
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NOVEMBER 17, 2019
Pope Francis needs to tell Eugenio Scalfari that articles and reports in his newspaper on Vatican Council II have a built-in error : Andrea Tornielli needs to clean up the Vatican websites which carry the same mistake
Andrea Torneilli and the Vatican Press Office by now know that they interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational model and not the rational one.Pope Francis is probably informed and he must be saying that that we cannot go back to Tradition and the past and yet we cannot interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. We cannot irrationally interpret the Creeds and Catechism. There cannot be a false profession of faith( Professio Fidei).
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