Sunday, June 9, 2019

Some examples of what has been taken for 'known cases' since Pius XII, when the small ' t ' is confused as the big ' T '

This is good.  If you have an inventory / list of what have been taken for "known cases" since Pius XII, I wonder if you could send them to me.

Lionel :
What has been taken for 'known cases' since Pius XII ? Where is the small ' ' confused as the big ' T ' ?

Here is a sample.
1.
Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that  he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member...- Letter of the Holy Office 1949
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949  assumes the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are exceptions to EENS. So in other words personally known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I exist. This is the small 't', the new tradition since the time of Pope Pius XII.
 

 
 



2.
Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
 Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7. Vatican Council II
The red passages are there because the Council Fathers assumed the small ' ' was really the big ' T '. It is the same with Lumen Gentium 14. The blue passages represent the big ' T '. The red passages should not have been mentioned.


Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 
 
  
 

3.
International Theological Commission (ITC)

10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions 1997.


International Theological Commission (ITC)

58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: “salus extra ecclesiam non est”,the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized. The Allocution of Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadam (1854) clearly states the issues involved: “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it, will perish in the flood. On the other hand, it must likewise be held as certain that those who live in ignorance of the true religion, if such ignorance be invincible, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord”-The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized(2007. International Theological Commission)
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_index-doc-pubbl_en.html


The exclusivist ecclesiocentrism is the big ' T ' but it is rejected with the small 't' which Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria,at the ITC,  assume is the norm, the big ' T '.




 
  




4.
"Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
Why is it stated that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body ? So what if all salvation comes from Christ through the Church which is his Body ? It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS?
The reason it is mentioned is because  BOD, BOB and I.I were assumed to be exceptions to EENS. So this passage does not affirm Feeneyite EENS.It  suggests there are personally known cases of salvation outside the Church. The small ' t ' is assumed to be the norm. It is the big ' T ' for the ecclesiastics who put together this  Catechism.
The same error is there in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Missio which are not Feeneyite.


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Pope Benedict announces that extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) today(Avvenire, March 2016) is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was a development with Vatican Council II. He means he interprets Vatican Council II with the small 't' so that it becomes and exception to EENS as it was known to the Magisterium in the 16th century. He also interprets EENS with BOD, BOB and I.I being exceptions. So the EENS of the 16th century, which is really the big 'T' is re-interpreted with the small 't'.





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These are examples of what has been taken for 'known cases' since Pius XII,when the small ' ' is confused as the big ' T ' .There are many other examples e.g Redemptoris Missio and Dominus were written with this error. The confusion is there in the Catechism of the Catholic Church n.1257, which says ' God is not limited to the Sacraments' as if we can know of non Catholics saved outside the Church, saved, because God is not limited to the Sacraments.
It is said that the Church is the Sacrament of Salvation. So what ? It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS as it was known over the centuries.
The Bellarmine Declaration and the Joint Declaration with the Lutherans on Justification were put together with this error.Hypothetical cases were assumed to be practical exceptions to EENS and this was made the New Theology.

When it is not wrongly assumed that BOD, BOB and I.I with reference to EENS and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22, NA 22 etc in Vatican Council II are objective cases in 1965-2019, Vatican Council II and EENS, tell us : the Church really tells us today, that there are only Catholics in Heaven.

-Lionel Andrades






 
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