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Bishop Athanasius Schneider still interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally for political reasons. Pope Francis could be doing the same. Both are heretical

 

Schneider: Heretical Pope Doesn’t Lose Office

There is no authority to declare an elected and generally accepted Pope as invalid, Bishop Athanasius Schneider wrote on RemnantNewspaper.com (September 18).

Even an invalid election would be de facto healed through the acceptance of the overwhelming majority of cardinals and bishops.

A heretical pope would not lose his office automatically. There is no body within the Church to declare him deposed for heresy: “Such actions would come close to a kind of a heresy of conciliarism or episcopalism.”

The theory of the automatic loss of the papacy due to heresy is a mere opinion that theologians such as St Robert Bellarmin noticed, “Never in history the Magisterium of the Church did admit any canonical procedures of deposition of a heretical pope.”

In the case of a heretical pope, the members of the Church can “avoid him, resist him, refuse to obey him.”

The situation of a heretical pope is humanly irresolvable and needs a “Divine intervention.” Schneider adds that an erring Pope is not eternal.

Picture: Athanasius Schneider © Latin Mass Society, #newsOqllajuyug

 JULY 20, 2023

There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One of Pope Francis and the other of Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall

 

 MARCH 12, 2019

BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER'S NEW WEBSITE : CAN WE PERSONALLY MEET AND SEE SOMEONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE IN 2019 ?

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has a new website which welcomes questions. I sent him this message a minute a ago.

Dear Bishop Athanasius Schneider,
 
Praised be  Jesus and Our Lady.
I am a Catholic lay man in Rome and owner of the blog Eucharist and Mission. I submit the following questions to your Excellency and would like permission to post your answer on my blog. Excuse me for not including a telephone number, since I do not use the telephone. I have not  done so for a few years. I have included my e-mail number and you  are also free to contact me. I have been e-mailing you but have not received a reply.

1.The Catholic Church refers to the baptism of desire,(BOD) baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which for me are hypothetical and theoretical cases in 2019. If they happened they would only be known to God. So they are not actual non Catholics who are personally known and who are saved outside the Church.Let me further clarify: I cannot meet or see a person saved with BOD, BOB and I.I in 2019.I cannot say that there were 20 cases of the BOD last year or 25 persons,  the previous year.
Is it the same for you Bishop Schneider? Would your Excellency also say that there are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I today and there were none which were physically known and seen for us human beings ?
2.So in 2019  BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
BOD,BOB and I.I never were exceptions to the dogma EENS in 1965 or 1949.
3.   Similarly Lumen Gentium 8 (elements of sanctification and truth), Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance), Lumen Gentium  14 ( the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen) etc are all hypothetical cases for you ? They are personally invisible people in 2019? So they are not objective exceptions to the dogma EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return ?
3.When Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 refers to 'imperfect communion with the Church', this too is a hypothetical case and can never be a known Protestant or Christian saved outside the Church.So UR 3 would not contradict the dogma EENS or an ecumenism of return ?
4.Since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc all refer to hypothetical cases Vatican Council II no where contradicts the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism and non Christian religions.Non Catholics including Christians need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation ?(CDF, Notification,Dupuis n.7( 2001).
In Christ
Lionel Andrades

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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023

The discovery

 

The discovery

We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition.   -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.

Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.

Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).

Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.                                                                                                 

 

                                                            Bishop Anthony Lobo

Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.

Discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in  Rome,  where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. This is public and official.

However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

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Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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Italy needs a Catholic political party similar to the Lega but which would be traditional on the Catholic Faith, since Vatican Council II would be re-interpreted rationally

Italy needs a Catholic political party similar to the Lega but which would be traditional on the Catholic Faith, since Vatican Council II would be re-interpreted rationally. Tradition would not be associated with only the Latin Mass. When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally there is no liberalism. The orthodox-liberal division ends in the Church.

Italy needs a political party who’s Constitution and ethos would be Catholic but would be open to all people of goodwill, even non Catholics.

THERE CANNOT BE A POPE WHO  INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY

We can no more associate Tradition only with the Latin Mass. Also the political parties here can no more associate Catholicism with a pope who is liberal in faith, morals and mission.Since he interprets Vatican Council II, only irrationally. He chooses a fake premise to produce an irrational conclusion, as did the popes since Paul VI.

The leadership for this political party would have to come from different sources. Since presently even the right wing political parties obey the leftist demands in order to be recognized. 

The Lega and Forza Nuova leadership interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so there is the traditionalist-liberal division in the Church. The liberalism would not be there if they interpreted the Council rationally. With the rational interpretation, those who attend the Novus Ordo Mass would be supporting the historical exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church in Italy. 

LEGA NEEDS A DEPT. FOR RELIGION

At the Lega reunion at Pontida the people were  not told about Vatican Council II, rational. The leftist pope , cardinals and bishops are not going to tell them about it.The Lega supporters  do not know that if they as a political interpret Vatican Council II rationally then the pope, cardinals and bishops would have to do the same. The Catholic Church would return to the Old Theology and so would be conservative again on faith, morals and mission.There would be no separation of Church and State. Now instead the Church is associated with the Left and there is no  separation with the political forces of evil.

There cannot be a political humanism or right wing values without the active support of an orthodox and conservative Catholic Church.This is only possible immediately, when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8, 14,15,16, UR3, NA2, GS 22 etc refer to only invisible and not visible cases in 1965-2023.

Lega has a department for sports and the youth but not a department for religion.

Salvini objected to an Imam speaking in a church. According to Vatican Council II (rational) all need faith and baptism for salvation. So the Church would now be saying that the Imam is outside the Church and is on the way to Hell, without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. Now with the Lega accepting Vatican Council II, irrational, the Church and the Lega are saying that outside the Church there is known salvation and so there are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So all do not need to enter the Church. Also inter faith marriages are encouraged since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church. Since there is alleged known salvation outside the Church the exclusivist ecclesiology is no more there. So it is said that if ecclesiology can be changed in the Church then the Church's position on homosexuality, polygamy etc can be changed too. This arguement would not be possible when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally.

-Lionel Andrades

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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023

The discovery

 

The discovery

We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition.   -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.

Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.

Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).

Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.                                                                                                 

 

                                                            Bishop Anthony Lobo

Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.

Discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in  Rome,  where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. This is public and official.

However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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Proclaiming exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is important in preaching, otherwise we are back to Vatican Council II (irrational), which separates Jesus from the Church by creating exceptions for the dogma EENS

 

The Catholic Church teaches that non Christians must convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell (AG 7, LG 14, CCC 845,846 etc). This is the teaching of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The norm for salvation is faith and baptism (AG 7, LG 14).While hypothetical and invisible cases of LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, are not objective exceptions for Ad Gentes 7. So the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church is the same before and after Vatican Council II. It is exclusivist on salvation and traditional on Mission and Outreach. All need to be members of the Catholic Church for  eternal bliss and adoration in Heaven.

We do not separate Jesus from the Catholic Church. This is the teaching of the Catholic Church. It is the Magisterium. This has been the teaching of the popes and saints over the centuries.

Vatican Council II (rational) has the hermeneutic of continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442).

So in evangelization and mission we must not separate Jesus from the Church. The Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus and the Church is necessary for salvation. Membership in the Catholic Church does not mean equality with membership in Christian denominations. Their members are outside the Catholic Church.

If anyone is saved through the good things in other religions it will be known only to God. In Heaven they will be Catholic.

 Proclaiming exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is important in preaching, otherwise we are back to Vatican Council II (irrational), which separates Jesus from the Church by creating exceptions for the dogma EENS.- Lionel Andrades

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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023

The discovery

 

The discovery

We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition.   -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.

Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.

Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).

Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.                                                                                                 

 

                                                            Bishop Anthony Lobo

Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.

Discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in  Rome,  where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. This is public and official.

However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/

Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA