CHARIS 1 the official office of the Catholic
Charismatic Renewal , Vatican has approved the La Nuova Gerusallemne(LNG),2 Charismatic Renewal community at the church San Camillio del Lellis, Via
Salusstiana, Rome.3 There is confusion. Since the LNG community in Frosinone, Italy, has been
excommunicated by Pope Francis and the bishop of Frosinone.
There was no comment from the parish office or the Charismatic Renewal group.
Last Thursday evening the Charismatic Renewal Catholic group had their weekly praise and worship service in the church.The LNG poster was placed outside the church by the parish priest Fr. Sergio Palumbio MI.The parish priest will not be allowed by the police to place a poster affirming the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, as held by St. Camillio de Lellis.
This church also has an annual ecumenical Via Crucis approved by the Rome Vicariate and Bishop Daniel Libanori, Auxiliary bishop in Rome.
The church
of San Camillio de Lellis, Via Salustiana, Rome has a reputation of being
pro-Masonic.Non Christian lectors, at the lecturn, announce the sovereignity of
man and not God.Dogs are literally brought into the church to de-sacralise the
edifice...The Paulist Fathers and
the American community in Rome would use this church for a few years.
The Camillians create a break with the ecclesiology of St. Camillio del Lellis by interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. The saint knew that Protestants were outside the Church. They were lost forever if they did not convert.But CHARIS does not interpret Vatican Council II, rationally. It also rejects the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed.It is like a foreign Church within the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
1
https://www.charis.international/en/christian-unity-commission/
2.
https://www.nuovagerusalemme.it/en/home-en/
http://parrocchiasancamillo.net/chi-siamo/
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FEBRUARY 21, 2023
How can Pope Francis and the bishop of Frosinone who both interpret Vatican Council II, by using a False Premise, excommunicate a Catholic community, any community, on the issue of doctrine?
FEBRUARY 20, 2023
David Murgia and the ignorance of bishops: a common error on Vatican Council II
FEBRUARY 18, 2023
Bishop of Frosinone and La Nuova Gerusalemme, Bambino Gesu al Gallinero, interpret Vatican Council II dishonestly
FEBRUARY 18, 2023
Cardinal Matteo Zuppi must ask the CEI, Italian government, Alberto Melloni, the bishop of Frosinone and the secular Magistrate in Gallinero, Frosinone, to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and honestly.
FEBRUARY 16, 2023
At the pontifical Beda College, an English Catholic seminary in Rome, they discriminate against seminarians who interpret Vatican Council II ( LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc),rationally in harmony with Tradition.
FEBRUARY 16, 2023
The Catholic Bishops Conference in Italy (CEI) and Propaganda Fide discriminate against students who do not interpret Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) irrationally.
FEBRUARY 15, 2023
FEBRUARY 14, 2023
I accept Vatican Council II as a legitimate Council for me. The Council supports the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and the rest of Tradition. I interpret LG8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, as being only hypothetical.
FEBRUARY 13, 2023
When the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith punishes Catholics for affirming the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, it is not Magisterial but political.
FEBRUARY 12, 2023
The Vatican and the Left will excommunicate/laicize/suspend any priest who affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So they do not allow Vatican Council II to be interpreted rationally. They want the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus to be rejected even though it is Biblical.
FEBRUARY 8, 2023
If the SSPX priest admits that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican, do not contradict Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), since they are invisible and hypothetical only, then a Decree of Prohbitions will be issued against them by the Vatican and the Left.
FEBRUARY 8, 2023
At First Communion and Confirmation classes the Oblates of St. Joseph in Rome are not telling parents and their children, to interpret Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to only physically invisible cases in 2023.
FEBRUARY 7, 2023
The SSPX Mass is valid. It will be licit when Pope Francis accepts Vatican Council II (rational) and so comes back to Tradition. The SSPX then can easily accept a traditional Council II. The responsibility lies with the pope.
FEBRUARY 6, 2023
The SSPX Mass is valid and it is the popes who are in heresy and schism when they support Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally.
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
The Principle of Non Contradiction also applies to a pope. They too must follow Newton's Laws of Physics
FEBRUARY 5, 2023
In the United Kingdom the English bishops’ conference and the Latin Mass Society are both interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to create a break with Tradition.
FEBRUARY 2, 2023
The Italian State is imposing a leftist version of Vatican Council II upon Catholics
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
Italy is a Catholic country and Catholics must be free to say that the Catholic Church teaches in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally, that outside the Church there is no salvation
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
The UN Declaration of Human Rights guarantees freedom of religion, worship and beliefs. In Italy Catholics must have the right to affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
The Catholic Church is like the pearl of great price. We cannot separate the Kingdom and the Church
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
SSPX General Chapter Statement had the key to the correct understanding of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
There is but one Church in which men find salvation. Just as outside the Ark of Noah it was not possible for anyone to be saved. - St.Thomas Aquinas
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
The Bible says extra ecclesiam nulla salus, outside the Church there is no salvation, all need Catholic faith and the baptism of water for salvation, the Church is the community of believers, who’s Head and Body is Christ.
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
The Bible says outside the Church there is no salvation but Pope Francis does not say the same. The Bible tells us that homosexual acts lead to Hell but Pope Francis does not say the same.
FEBRUARY 1, 2023
Pope Francis and Fr.. James Martin sj are not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally. So the Church's traditional teachings on homosexuality etc do not change
JANUARY 31, 2023
Why must the Italian Ministry of Education not interpret Vatican Council II honestly? The Jurisprudence Department at the Sapienza University, Rome, uses a Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II in courses in Church and secular law.
JANUARY 30, 2023
It is important for the Italian Ministry of Interior and that of External Affairs to coordinate with the Vatican Secretary of State and confirm that Vatican Council II is only to be interpreted rationally and honestly
JANUARY 29, 2023
Before the next Conclave of Cardinals to elect a pope the Vatican Tribunal must clarify that only those cardinals will be allowed to vote, who interpret Vatican Council II rationally, in harmony with Tradition. This is ethical and Catholic
JANUARY 29, 2023
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."(17) Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16). - Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE.
This is how I interpret the Council.
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
THE RED IS NOT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BLUE.
The passage in Red refers to hypothetical and invisible cases in the present times. The passage in Blue are orthodox and support the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The passages in Red do not contradict the passages in Blue.
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