In his latest Vortex on Vatican Council II Michael Voris has chosen to affirm Vatican Council II ( irrational) and so avoid a Decree of Prohibitions against CMTV : this heretical, schismatic and political

 

In his latest Vortex on Vatican Council II Michael Voris has avoided referring to Vatican Council II ( rational).Since if he accepts Vatican Council II ( rational), and not his present irrational interpretation, then he would have to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). When he affirms Vatican Council II( rational) and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (rational) the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, the Archbishop of Detroit and the Left will issue a Decree of Prohibitions against him. It will be a kind of excommunication.So he avoids it.

He chooses to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.

He then criticizes the SSPX for rejecting Vatican Council II ( irrational).

It is easier for me to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS rationally since I do not own or manage, an expensive media center. It is difficult for Catholics like Roberto dei Mattei, Michael Matt and John Henry Weston. Even Archbishop Vigano does not want to be penalized by the Left and the Vatican. He will not affirm Vatican Council II rational and Feeneyite EENS.

Even the sedevacantist bishop Donald Sanborn, who is not under the Vatican, fears the Left as he builds a new seminary building. He will not affirm Vatican Council II ( rational).

After Michael Voris interviewed Brother Andre Marie micm, in New Hampshire, the flak came in.Then CMTV did a U-turn. CMTV posted an article by Jim Russel referring to The Strange Doctrines of Fr. Feeney. Russel used the common False Premise.CMTV did not want to support  Feeneyite EENS like Brother Andre Marie micm.

In this way Michael Voris avoided a Decree of Prohibitions.

Though his present interpretation of Vatican Council II is schismatic, heretical, unethical and a sin. It changes the interpretation of the Creeds and Catechisms too.- Lionel Andrades

Now by criticizing the SSPX and the sedevacantists CMTV strengthens its new liberal image but its interpretation of Vatican Council II is irrational, producing heresy and schism which are sins

 

Church Militant TV, now tamed and timid, supporting the Left on Vatican Council II ( irrational) and extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( irrational), has its Staff pray the rosary at their studios.They do not have an approved chapel.The Mass in English which Michael Voris, Christine Niles, Simon Rafe and the other staff attend in Detroit, is valid and licit for Pope Francis and Archbishop Vigneron- but its ecclesiology, is heretical and schismatic. Since it is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. On this point there has been no denial from CMTV all these years. This is a political issue for the Left in Detroit.

Even though CMTV are Cushingites and not Feeneyites on VCII, EENS, CCC etc; even though they are liberals and not traditionalists, the liberal archbishop of Detroit does not accept CMTV as a Catholic apostolate.

CMTV claims they are following the ‘magisterium’ by interpreting Vatican Council II politically and irrationally and dishonestly. For them this  is the work of the Holy Spirit.

So whether the CMTV Staff goes for the Latin or English Mass they are full of doctrinal and theological confusion.

CMTV adapts their theology to what is politically approved by the ADL and  Archbishop Vigneron.

If the CMTV interpreted Vatican Council II -and especially being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire- rationally, they will be supporting Feeneyite EENS. This is not allowed politically. 

After Michael Voris interviewed Brother Andre Marie micm, in New Hampshire, the flak came in and CMTV did a U-turn by posting an article by Jim Russel referring to The Strange Doctrines of Fr. Feeney.Russel used the common False Premise.

CMTV had to avoid being told that they are not a Catholic apostolate and Michael Voris was not a Catholic. With Feeneyite EENS a Decree of Prohibitions could be issued against CMTV. It would be approved by the leftist Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.

Now by criticizing the SSPX and the sedevacantists CMTV strengthens its new liberal image but its interpretation of Vatican Council II is irrational, producing heresy and schism which are sins.- Lionel Andrades

For the FSSP and the SSPX there is a break with Tradition which is politically approved by Pope Francis and the Left. This is ideological. It is not Catholic.

 

The SSPX interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and then rejects the non traditional conclusion. They reject the liberalism of the Council.But the liberalism is a result and not the cause. The cause is the Irrational Premise. They interpret the Council irrationally, with the Irrational Premise( invisible cases are visible, LG 16 refers to a visible case in 2023). The result is an Irrational Premise( LG 16 refers to a known non Catholic saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance.So this is a practical exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus). Then there has to follow a Non Traditional Conclusion ( LG 16 etc is a rupture with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition. The Council is 'a new revelation', 'a revolution' etc).

Here lies the fault. Here is the cause of the liberalism, the break with Tradition. We have discovered the Missing Link. So now we can always interpret Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of continuity with the Athanasius Creed, the Catechism of Pope Pius X etc. The Council is no more an issue for conservative Catholics.

Traditionis Custode and the Synods are valid and licit for Pope Francis but in a sense they are invalid since they based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.The pope has a rational choice.

The FSSP Mass at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome, for example, is valid and licit for Pope Francis and the Rome Vicariate.But the priests and congregation are dishonestly interpreting Vatican Council II. They have chosen the Irrational Premise and Inference and Non Traditional Conclusion. I can interpret the Council with the traditional Rational Premise and Inference, producing a Traditional Conclusion.

So for the FSSP and the SSPX there is a break with Tradition which is politically approved by Pope Francis and the Left. This is ideological. It is not Catholic.- Lionel Andrades

The SSPX Mass is valid. It will be licit when Pope Francis accepts Vatican Council II (rational) and so comes back to Tradition. The SSPX then can easily accept a traditional Council II. The responsibility lies with the pope.

 

The SSPX Mass is valid. It will be licit when Pope Francis accepts Vatican Council II (rational) and so comes back to Tradition. The SSPX then can easily accept a traditional Council. The responsibility lies with the pope. He must accept Vatican Council II (rational). He must not tell the SSPX that their Mass will be licit only when they accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. Cardinal Luiz Ladaris sj must not interpret Vatican Council II politically and then dialogue with the SSPX for them to do the same.

The cardinals and bishops in general are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and politically and so their Mass is licit for the pope and the Left.

But with Vatican Council II (irrational) they are contradicting the Creeds and Catechisms producing heresy and schism and this is ‘licit’? This is also a mortal sin of faith. It is a public, manifest mortal sin of faith, which is licit for the pope.

The SSPX is doing the correct thing by rejecting Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally by Pope Francis. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was correct. The Council interpreted irrationally, to produce a fake break with Tradition, should be rejected by all Catholics. 

However Pope Francis and the SSPX must accept and interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is possible. Then Pope Francis becomes conservative on Vatican Council II. The Council can no more support a development of doctrine; it will not be there in the text of the Council. The liberalism in the Church ends.

Theology will once again say outside the Church there is no known salvation. Since there are no practical exceptions for traditional exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.None that can be seen and none mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II. ‘Rome will have returned to the Faith’ as sought by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Liberalism will no more be a choice. The pope can no more justify Traditionis Custode with Vatican Council II (irrational). Since the Council will only support the ecclesiology of the pre-1962 Missal. The Council will be licit. It will be ethical. Now it is dishonest. It is valid for the pope and also licit but the interpretation is based upon deception which is politically correct, since the time of Pope Paul VI.

The Dominican Mass, for example, at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) Rome, is valid and the interpretation of Vatican Council II is licit, but it is also dishonest. It is a moral issue. It is unethical. The Dominicans are teaching a new ecclesiology based upon the irrational interpretation of the Council. The Novus Ordo and Latin Mass are valid and licit but with the false interpretation of Vatican Council II, they become heretical and schismatic, in their theology.

The Council interpreted with the Fake Premise and Inference produces heresy and schism, even at the Latin Mass.- Lionel Andrades

FEBRUARY 6, 2023

The SSPX Mass is valid and it is the popes who are in heresy and schism when they support Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-sspx-mass-is-valid-and-it-is-popes.html

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