Thursday, October 18, 2018

We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed-mine and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.

We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed. There is my interpretation and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.
The Nicene Creed. says ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.For me it refers to one  known baptism, the baptism of water.
For the others it is  ' I believe in three or more known baptisms and they are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood etc, all without the baptism of water'. This is why the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are EXCEPTIONS to the dogma extra  ecclesiam nulla salus. There are exceptions since for them there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church.If there were no personally known cases how could there be exceptions?
In the Nicene Creed we refer to the Holy Spirit.For me the Holy Spirit guides the Catholic Church to teach outside the Church there is no salvation. For others, the Holy Spirit guides the Church to teach that outside the Church there is known salvation.
In the Nicene Creed we refer to the one Holy , Catholic and Apostolic Church which for me says outside the Church there is no salvation. For  the traditionalists, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church teaches that  outside the Church there is no salvation except for the cases of the baptism of desire etc.So outside the Church there is salvation. There are known people saved outside the Church. In other words the baptism of desire etc refer to known people saved outside the Church. If they were invisible cases they could not be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So they were visible cases for Pope Paul VI and Archbishop Lefebvre. So until today for the SSPX, F.I, FSSP and sedevacantists there are visible exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
I interpret the Nicene Creed traditionally.Practically we cannot see a BOD, BOB and I.I. case. Literally there is no baptism of desire for us human beings.   1


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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/cushingites-pope-paul-vi-and-archbishop.html








DECEMBER 15, 2017


Pledge of Fidelity Signatories and I interpret the Nicene Creed differently
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/12/pledge-of-fidelity-signatories-and-i.html


JULY 3, 2017

The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-bottom-line-is-that-we-are-all.html



SEPTEMBER 10, 2016

The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-vatican-curia-interprets-nicene.html



 MARCH 29, 2016



The Nicene Creed was changed with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 mistake : it was approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-nicene-creed-was-changed-with.html

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