Andrea Torneilli and the Vatican Press Office by now know that they interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational model and not the rational one.Pope Francis is probably informed and he must be saying that that we cannot go back to Tradition and the past and yet we cannot interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. We cannot irrationally interpret the Creeds and Catechism. There cannot be a false profession of faith( Professio Fidei).
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With this rational model, the Vatican would not be contradicting the Athanasius Creed.
ATHANASIUS CREED
'Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he
hold the catholic faith.
Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt
he shall perish everlastingly...'
With this rational model they would also not be contradicting the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
III. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. — Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862; Damnatio “Multiplices inter,” June 10, 1851.
16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. — Encyclical “Qui pluribus,” Nov. 9, 1846.
17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. — Encyclical “Noscitis,” Dec. 8, 1849.
Now Vatican Council II interpreted with his irrational premise, inference and conclusion contradicts the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
With the rational model, Vatican Council II would not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
1.VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS THE CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X ( 24 Q AND 27 Q ) WHEN THE FALSE PREMISE, INFERENCE AND CONCLUSION IS USED BY THE ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT, ALLEN VIGNERON.
From the Catechism of Pope Pius X
16 Q. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?
A. Baptism is absolutely necessary to salvation, for our Lord has expressly said:
"Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into
the Kingdom of God."
The Church in Particular
9 Q. State distinctly what is necessary to be a member of the Church?
A. To be a member of the Church it is necessary to be baptised, to believe and
profess the teaching of Jesus Christ, to participate in the same Sacraments, and
to acknowledge the Pope and the other lawful pastors of the Church.
24 Q. To be saved, is it enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic Church?
A. No, to be saved it is not enough to be any sort of member of the Catholic
Church; it is necessary to be a living member.
27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church,
just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah,
which was a figure of the Church.
11 Q. Who are they who are outside the true Church?
A. Outside the true Church are: Infidels, Jews, heretics, apostates,
schismatics, and the excommunicated.
13 Q. Who are the Jews?
A. The Jews are those who profess the Law of Moses; have not received
baptism; and do not believe in Jesus Christ.
14 Q. Who are heretics?
A. Heretics are those of the baptised who obstinately refuse to believe some
truth revealed by God and taught as an article of faith by the Catholic
Church; for example, the Arians, the Nestorians and the various sects of Protestants.
29 Q. But if a man through no fault of his own is outside the Church, can he be saved?
A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God's will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation
A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God's will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation
FOR THE VATICAN, THE
LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE (INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ) AND VATICAN COUNCIL
II ( LUMEN GENTIUM 16) WOULD CONTRADICT THE CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X
BUT ALSO 29 Q OF THE CATECHISM WOULD CONTRADICT 24 Q and 27 Q OF THE SAME CATECHISM.
Similarly
the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) would contradict Tradition
for the Archdiocese of Detroit, when a false premise, inference and
conclusion is unethically used in the interpretation.
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