Thursday, February 11, 2021

Religious communities in Manchester have no objections to the Seven Points

 E-mails have been sent to the religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester, USA, so they know about the Seven Points. Even the Curia and members of various Ministries and a Vicar General, have been informed. They are expected to agree with the Seven Points and so interpret Vatican Council II without the common false premise and inference. So the Council will not be a break with Tradition and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as interpreted by the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire.



No one is disputing the Seven Points among the following religious communities in the dioceseThe Order of St. Benedict (O.S.B), St.Benedict's Abbey, the Order of Friars Minor - Franciscan Friars (O.F.M), The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (F.S.S.P.), Redemptorist Fathers (C.Ss.R.)and among Women Religious, the Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P).



They would now know that the Council can be interpreted without the false premise and there is no more a theological basis for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology and New Evangelisation. 

This rational interpretation of Vatican Council II would be the norm in the diocese. So the Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions, upon the St.Benedict Center, NH, for holding the traditional strict interpretation of EENS, needs to be ended. EENS according to the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, has no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II, for the religious communities in Manchester. -Lionel Andrades

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FEBRUARY 10, 2021

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Diocese of Manchester, interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS. Since the false premise causes the rupture.It is not the Council per se : Their Decree would also apply to other religious communities in New Hampshire after they answer Seven Questions

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and the Brazilian community Joseleitos di Cristo, both have been based in the Diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome.The bishop is Gino Reali. 

These two religious communities with whom I have communicated in writing, would agree with the following seven points. None of the two have raised objections even though they project themselves as being liberal.

 They would know how to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. It's the only rational choice. It would be the same for the Men and Women Religious Communities in the Diocese of Manchester, USA.

The answer to these seven questions show that Vatican Council II ( without the false premise) can be interpreted in harmony with the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church do not contradict the St. Benedict Center interpretation of EENS.

Presently the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Diocese of Manchester, interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS. Since the false premise causes the rupture.It is not the Council per se.

So the Decree of Precepts Prohibitions is today meaningless.Since the  prohibitions, could also be  placed on the other religious communities in New Hampshire,after they answer the seven questions. The Decree could also be applied  to  The Order of St. Benedict (O.S.B), St.Benedict's Abbey, the Order of Friars Minor - Franciscan Friars (O.F.M), The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (F.S.S.P.), Redemptorist Fathers (C.Ss.R.)and among Women Religious, the Discalced Carmelites (O.C.D.), Sisters of the Presentation of Mary (p.m.) and the Dominican Sisters of Hope (O.P).

 Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus would be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.

SEVEN POINTS

 1. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II always refer to hypothetical, speculative and theoretical cases.So they are not practical exceptions to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. There is no objective rupture with the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation.

2. They agree that Jesus died for all, salvation is open for all in potential but to receive this salvation all need to enter the Church, with faith and baptism(AG 7). The Church is necessary ( Dominus Iesus 20, CDF, Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis sj 2000 etc).

3. They interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, just like me. LG 14, LG 16 etc are only hypothetical. They are not objective cases in 2021.

4. The baptism of desire(BDD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) refer to only hypothetical cases. If any one has received salvation with BOD, BOB and I.I only God can know.

5.The Church teaches in Vatican Council II( without the false premise) that everyone who dies in 2021, without faith and baptism, are oriented to Hell in general, in principle.

6. It is a lie and deception when someone uses the false premise to interpret the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II. Catechisms, the dogma EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I.

7. Catholics need to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. There is a rational option.-Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 9, 2021

Seven questions which Bishop Peter Libasci , Diane Quinlin, the Chancellor and the Rev. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar could answer and affirm. Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS woud be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.So they can end the prohibitions placed upon the religious community

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/seven-questions-which-bishop-peter.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith.html



FEBRUARY 9, 2021

Seven questions which Bishop Peter Libasci , Diane Quinlin, the Chancellor and the Rev. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar could answer and affirm. Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS woud be the same as that of the St. Benedict Center, NH.So they can end the prohibitions placed upon the religious community

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/seven-questions-which-bishop-peter.html



FEBRUARY 9, 2021

The Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions placed upon the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire for affirming the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), with no known exceptions, could also be placed upon the other religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester, men and women, if they did not unethically use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and create fake exceptions for EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-decree-of-precepts-and-prohibitions.html






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