- FAKE PREMISE OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS
- Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.
FAKE INFERENCE OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
FAKE CONCLUSION OF POPE FRANCIS AND THE APOSTOLIC VISITORS
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.
TWO COLUMN APPROACHWould you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?
LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:
implicit or explicit for us.
hypothetical or known in reality.
invisible or visible in the flesh.
dejure(in principle)or defacto ( in fact ).
subjective or objective.
So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.
If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2021 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead-saved are visible.- If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.
- Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.Bishop Roland Minnerath and the Diocesan priests in Dijon, France use the irrational right hand side column.So there is an artificial break with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).
The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance never ever were an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There were, and are, no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades
The Vatican has suppressed two Catholic associations based in southern Italy after determining that their founder’s alleged supernatural revelations were inauthentic.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) ordered an apostolic visitation of the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzione last year after receiving numerous complaints about governance issues and “profound divisions” between members.
The CDF, together with the Congregation for Clergy and the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, suppressed the two Catholic associations with a June 10 decree approved by Pope Francis.
The Movimento Apostolico was founded in the Archdiocese of Catanzaro-Squillace in 1979, based on purported supernatural revelations given to Maria Marino.
The movement received formal recognition as a private association of the faithful in 2001. The connected public association of the faithful, Maria Madre della Redenzione, was formed later and recognized by the local Church in 2011.
The Movimento Apostolico spread throughout Italy and had a presence in Switzerland, Germany, the Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Madagascar, India, Benin and Ecuador.
The Vatican has suppressed two Catholic associations based in southern Italy after determining that their founder’s alleged supernatural revelations were inauthentic.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) ordered an apostolic visitation of the Movimento Apostolico and Maria Madre della Redenzione last year after receiving numerous complaints about governance issues and “profound divisions” between members.
The CDF, together with the Congregation for Clergy and the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, suppressed the two Catholic associations with a June 10 decree approved by Pope Francis.
The Movimento Apostolico was founded in the Archdiocese of Catanzaro-Squillace in 1979, based on purported supernatural revelations given to Maria Marino.
The movement received formal recognition as a private association of the faithful in 2001. The connected public association of the faithful, Maria Madre della Redenzione, was formed later and recognized by the local Church in 2011.
The Movimento Apostolico spread throughout Italy and had a presence in Switzerland, Germany, the Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Madagascar, India, ...It also said that the founding charism was not original, and the texts, formation and preaching of the movement were marked by “doctrinal superficiality.”
https://www.ncregister.com/cna/vatican-suppresses-catholic-movement-says-founder-s-revelations-not-supernatural
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