Friday, October 1, 2021

Unity in the Church

 

Timothy Flanders calls for unity in the Church on three points,on which the liberals and Masons will also agree with him. They are 1) accepting Pope Francis as the pope 2) accepting the Second Vatican Council II and 2) accepting Mass in the vernacular.I would agree with him on all three points with qualifications.The most important being what is a sin and what is not?

Pope Francis is the pope but when he interprets Magisterial documents with a false premise.This is a sin. It is not a sin if he uses the rational premise and so remains Magisterial.With the false premise, like it is for any Catholic, he remains schismatic and heretical.

I go for Mass in Italian but since I interpret Magisterial documents with the rational premise my ecclesiology is exclusivist and like that of the missionaries in the 16th century. There is no New Theology, New Ecumenism and New Evangelisation for me. These are sins of faith based upon the false premise. They are heretical and schismatic.

We cannot ‘unite the clans’ with Cushingite theology based upon a false premise.This results in schism with the past Magisterium on EENS, the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors with no exceptions etc.

The Novus Ordo Mass is the Sacrifice of Jesus re-enacted in an un-bloody way, for me.

Archbishop Lefebvre made an objective mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents. Why should Catholics follow him? It is the same error of the liberals and Masons.

He interpreted LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II as exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. This was his mistake. Why should I interpret them as being exceptions? This would be irrational.This is the New Theology of the liberals.

Bishop Bernard Fellay has often interpreted Vatican Council II in this irrational way and then projected the Council as a rupture with Tradition.Why should I do the same?

The Council interpreted with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc being only hypothetical , does not contradict traditional EENS.The Council then becomes dogmatic and ecclesiocentric.It is in harmony with Tradition.Then collegiality, religious liberty, synodality and inter-religious dialogue is constant and not a rupture with the past.We are looking at Vatican Council II differently.We can choose not to read the Council like Archbishop Lefebvre.

Catholics today have an alternative. We can affirm EENS and Vatican Council II unlike Lefebvre and Pope Paul VI. We can choose to avoid the False Premise and the New Theology.

Finally the issue is what is a sin? Can you interpret the Creeds with a false premise? Can you change the interpretation of EENS by interpreting the baptism of desire etc with a false premise ?-Lionel Andrades






SEPTEMBER 30, 2021

We can no more say that the Catholic Church is one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic, for all, since with or without the False Premise, two different churches exist. One is ecclesiocentric ( with the rational premise) and the other is non-ecclesiocentric ( with the irrational premise). Fr. Thomas Weinandy, Brother Andre Marie micm and Joe Sixpack(CMTV) wrote articles on the Four Marks of the Church without making the distinction between the ecclesiocentric and non-ecclesiocentric Church.They did not mention the rational premise, which takes the Church back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/09/we-can-no-more-say-that-catholic-church.html




 SEPTEMBER 30, 2021

Like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Roberto dei Mattei, Joseph Shaw and John Henry Weston among others, are in schism with the past Magisterium, since also like the popes from Paul VI to Francis, they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with a fake premise, to create a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors, Catechism of Pope Pius X, 24Q,27Q) etc

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/09/like-archbishop-marcel-lefebvre-roberto.html



SEPTEMBER 29, 2021

The annual Lefebvrist-Cushingite Catholic Identity Conference will be held next week in which they will interpret Magisterial Documents,expecially Vatican Council II, with a false premise to change the understanding of the Creeds and Catechisms and the faith in general-blame the Novus Ordo Mass and call all this our Catholic identity

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-annual-lefebvrist-cushingite.html











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