The Leftist controlled media in Italy describe the traditionalists and conservative Catholics as extremists. But when Vatican Council II supports exclusive salvation, then who will be the extremists and rebels? The norm will be the support of Tradition by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. So the liberals will be the rebels and extremists. The norm which they have been used to has been changed. The Council supports Tradition and is not a rupture with the past ecclesiology.

Now the Leftist controlled media in Italy describe the traditionalists  and conservative Catholics as extremists. But when Vatican Council II supports exclusive salvation, then who will be the extremists and rebels? The norm will be the support of Tradition by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. So the liberals will be the rebels and extremists.

The norm which they have been used to has been changed. The Council supports Tradition and is not a rupture with the past ecclesiology.

So the liberal professors can no more cite Vatican Council II to support a new theology, new ecumenism, new ecclesiology and new evangelisation. Since the Council does not mention any known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church.

'Possibilities', we know are not visible people saved outside the Church.

So it means John Allen Jr and Michael Sean Winters are the extremists and rebels today.

LG 8, LG 14 and LG 16 being hypothetical cases do not contradict the old ecclesiology. There is no known salvation outside the Church. So there is no theological and philosophical foundation for the New Theology.

There is nothing in Lumen Gentium to contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. So there is no philosophical and theological foundation in Vatican Council II for the New Ecclesiology.

Unitatis Redintigratio does not name any particular person saved outside the Church as a Protestant or other Christian in his religion.It does not state that we can know of a Christian saved outside the Church without Catholic faith. So the Decree on Ecumenism(UR) does not anywhere contradict the past ecumenism of return.

Similarly Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and we know there can be no practical exceptions known to us humans in 2019. So Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Mission and Salvation as it was known to the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.

I love Vatican Council II and I affirm Tradition( Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors, EENS etc).

-Lionel Andrades