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Cushingite's strange doctrines

 



 APRIL 24, 2019

Cushingite's strange doctrines


Comment from  FR. FEENEY’S STRANGE DOCTRINE

Jim Russell  3 hours ago

Some commenters below are claiming that some of *my* comments below are erroneous and suspect--yet these accusers will not cite their evidence--they merely adorn other comments, from those who seem to support the substance of my article above, with calumnious claims. These "gotcha" commenters aren't interested in real understanding and communication. Apologies to those readers/commenters who must wade through the "gotchas" for any real substance in the combox. I've opted to spend a great deal of time in the combox in order to aid in readers' understanding of a very complex issue. I'll happily continue to do so and won't be cowed by the calumny expressed by some. Thanks for reading.
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APRIL 24, 2019


Jim Russell on Church Militant TV does not refer to hundreds of reports on line saying there are no practical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I. : St. Benedict Center's theological position

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/jim-russell-does-refer-to-hundreds-of.html
RESPONSE TO JIM RUSSELL'S COMMENTS ON CHURCH MILITANT TV

APRIL 24, 2019

Catholic Encyclopedia correspondents assumed invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were visible exceptions to EENS. So they interpreted Vatican Council II, the Catechisms, EENS and other Magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/catholic-encyclopedia-correspondents.html
 

 APRIL 24, 2019


ITC documents 'Christianity and the World Religions' and 'The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized ' need to be retracted or corrected: Cushingite flaw runs through

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/itc-documents-christianity-and-world.html
 

APRIL 24, 2019


Jim Russell like the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and so they create a rupture with Tradition. This is a private and heretical theological opinion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/jim-russell-like-ecclesiastics-at.html

APRIL 24, 2019


We now know that invincible ignorance is not an exception to EENS and so LG 14 does not contradict Feeneyite EENS if Cushingism is avoided

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/we-now-know-that-invincible-ignorance.html

 APRIL 24, 2019


The Baltimore Catechism suggested that there was a baptism of desire without the baptism of water even when there were no such cases known to us human beings

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-baltimore-catechism-suggested-that.html
  

APRIL 24, 2019


Non Sacramental baptism of blood and desire were always only hypothetical even in ancient times. To assume they are not hypothetical and objective non Catholics saved outside the Church and then create a theology upon this error is deception

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/non-sacramental-baptism-of-blood-and.html

APRIL 24, 2019


Catholics have to interpret Vatican II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the false premise and inference and then they will be in full communion with the CDF which makes the same objective mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/catholics-have-to-interpret-vatican-ii.html

 APRIL 24, 2019


To assume invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS ( extra ecclesiam nulla salus ) is human error

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/to-assume-invisible-cases-of-baptism-of.html
-Lionel Andrades


https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-feeneys-strange-doctrine

 

  
  
  
 
  
 
  
  
 



APRIL 24, 2019

Ten examples of Cushingism



Here are 10 examples of Cushingism

1.
LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949
Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member -Letter of the Holy Office 1949  1

This is heretical and it has derailed theology in the Catholic Church.

2.
LUMEN GENTIUM 14, VATICAN COUNCIL II
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II   2


3.
AD GENTES 7, VATICAN COUNCL II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. And hence missionary activity today as always retains its power and necessity...-Ad Gentes 7
The passages marked in red are Cushingite passages. It was also a mistake here to place references to BOD, BOB and I.I, alongside orthodox passages which support EENS(Feeneite) as if they are relevant as exceptions. 3
 
4.
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION, CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS
'10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22)...'-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions
'on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church'  4

A possibility is not a visible case.This is a mistake in the inference.

5.
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION, THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS WHO DIE WITHOUT BAPTISM
58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: “salus extra ecclesiam non est”,[88] the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized.

59. The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (1949) offers further specifications. “To gain eternal salvation, it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality (reapse) as a member of the Church, but it is necessary that one belong to it at least in desire and longing (voto et desiderio). It is not always necessary that this desire be explicit as it is with catechumens.-The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being Baptised,International Theologocal Commission 5


6.
SSPX WEBSITE, FR. FEENEY AND CATHOLIC DOCTRINE
Many of our friends have heard of Fr. Leonard Feeney, and some of them have a great esteem for this priest who fought against the liberal ecumenism by recalling again and again that outside the Church there is no salvation. But, to make his point, Fr. Feeney went so far as to exclude Baptism of desire (and martyrdom) from the means of salvation. His teaching was then condemned by the Holy Office in 1949, and he himself was excommunicated in 1953. It should be sufficient to recall that this happened under the pontificate of the saintly Pope Pius XII, and that the letter of the Holy Office was signed by Cardinal Ottaviani, who was not a liberal either. 
Fr. Feeney and Catholic doctrine,SSPX website

In the past three years, there has been increasing discussion within traditional Catholic circles concerning the issue of the three baptisms. There have been a number of works, even videos, that have come into circulation on the topic, each of which seems to uphold essentially the same view, namely:
"unless one is baptized with the baptism of water "in re," "in actuality," that one will necessarily be damned (i.e., deprived of the beatific vision).
SSPX WEBSITE, THE THREE BAPTISMS 
The proponents of this doctrine are followers of the teaching of the famous American Jesuit, Fr. Leonard Feeney, who cites the dogma Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Outside the Church there is no salvation) against anyone who would claim the existence of three baptisms.-The Three Baptisms by Fr.Joseph Pfieffer,SSPX website

SSPX WEBSITE, THE THREE ERRORS OF THE FEENEYITES
Misrepresentation of the dogma, "Outside the Church There Is No Salvation"
The first error of those who take their doctrine from Rev. Fr. Leonard Feeney, commonly known as "Feeneyites," is that they misrepresent the dogma, "Outside the [Catholic] Church there is no salvation." The Feeneyites misrepresent this as, "Without baptism of water there is no salvation."-The Three Errors of the Feeneyite by Fr.Francois Laisney, SSPX website

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CARDINAL GERHARD MULLER : MISTAKES HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES AS BEING EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES.
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That has been discussed, but here, too, there has been a development of all that was said in the Church, beginning with St. Cyprian, one of the Fathers of the Church, in the third century. Again, the perspective is different between then and now. In the third century, some Christian groups wanted to be outside the Church, and what St. Cyprian said is that without the Church a Christian cannot be saved. The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” He who is aware of the presence of Revelation is obliged by his conscience to belong publicly — and not only in his conscience, in his heart — to this Catholic Church by remaining in communion with the Pope and those bishops in communion with him.
But we cannot say that those who are inculpably ignorant of this truth are necessarily condemned for that reason. We must hope that those who do not belong to the Church through no fault of their own, but who follow the dictates of their God-given conscience, will be saved by Jesus Christ whom they do not yet know. Every person has the right to act according to his or her own conscience. - Cardinal Gerhard Muller (10/02/2012 ). Archbishop Gerhard Müller: 'The Church Is Not a Fortress', National Catholic Register  
8.ARCHBISHOP AUGUSTINE DO NOIA : ASSUMES WHAT IS KNOWN ONLY TO GOD CAN BE KNOWN AND JUDGED BY US HUMAN BEINGS.

I don’t know if you can blame this on the Council so much as the emergence of a theological trend that emphasized the possibility of salvation of non-Christians. But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it. …The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted. I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints.' - Archbishop Augustine di Noia ( 07/01/2012 ), Archbishop Di Noia, Ecclesia Dei and the Society of St. Pius X, National Catholic Register.



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 9.BISHOP BERNARD FELLAY  ASSUMES THEORETICAL POSSIBILITIES KNOWN ONLY TO GOD ARE EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES AND RELEVANT TO EENS

 
The same declaration (LG, 8) also recognizes the presence of “salvific elements” in non-Catholic Christian communities. The decree on ecumenism goes even further, adding that “the Spirit of Christ does not refrain from using these churches and communities as means of salvation, which derive their efficacy from the fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church.” (UR, 3)
Such statements are irreconcilable with the dogma “No salvation outside of the Church, which was reaffirmed by a Letter of the Holy Office on August 8, 1949". -Bishop Bernard Fellay  (April 13, 2014 ) Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 8

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PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY

by Cardinal Walter Kasper, from the website of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, Vatican

In the course of the Council the “subsistit in” took the place of the previous “est”.[7] It contains in nuce the whole ecumenical problem.[8] The “est” claimed that the church of Christ Jesus “is” the Catholic Church. This strict identification of the church of Christ Jesus with the Catholic Church had been represented most recently in the encyclicals Mystici corporis (1943) and Humani generis (1950).[9] But even according to Mystici corporis there are people who, although they have not yet been baptised, are subsumed under the Catholic Church because that is their express desire (DS 3921). Therefore Pius XII had condemned an exclusive interpretation of the axiom “Extra ecclesiam nulla salus” already in 1949.( Lionel: He means Fr. Leonard Feeney was wrong since B is an exception to A. The baptism of desire is an exception to all needing to convert into Church with no exceptions)
The Council went a decisive step further with the aid of the “subsistit in”. It wished to do justice to the fact that there are found outside of the Catholic Church not only individual Christians but also “elements of the church”, (Lionel: These 'elements' are known and so are exceptions to the traditional teaching on all needing to be formal members of the Church.He infers they are known and are found outside the Church. So B ( saved-elements) is an exception to A) indeed churches and ecclesial communities which, although not in full communion, rightly belong to the one church and possess salvatory significance for their members (LG, 8, 15; UR, 3; UUS, 10-14). (Lionel : And they are known to us in the present times.They are relevant exceptions to the dogma.So B is an exception to A) Thus the Council is aware that there are outside of the Catholic Church forms of sanctification which even extend as far as martyrdom (LG, 15; UR, 4; UUS, 12, 83). (Lionel: So outside the Church there are known cases of persons saved who are not members of the Church, with 'faith and baptism', and these persons being known makes B is an exception to A) .The question of the salvation of non-Catholics is now no longer answered personally as in Mystici corporis on the basis of the subjective desire of single individuals, but institutionally on the basis of objective ecclesiology.(Lionel: He means ecclesiology has changed since B is an exception to traditional A .There is no more exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church for him) 

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/card-kasper-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20041111_kasper-ecumenism_en.html 10


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 APRIL 24, 2019

Jim Russell on Church Militant TV does not refer to hundreds of reports on line saying there are no practical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I. : St. Benedict Center's theological position

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/jim-russell-does-refer-to-hundreds-of.html



The present Magisterium supports the political Left on doctrine and has also made a factual mistake http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/the-present-magisterium-supports.html


OATH AGAINST MODERNISM : MAGISTERIUM IS IN HERESY 

AUGUST 6, 2016

Archbishop Lefebvre's modernism has had a big influence in the Catholic Church : Church Militant TV also promotes it

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/08/archbishop-lefebvres-modernism-has-had.html

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Questions and Answers
what premise ?
The irrational premise is "The dead are visible to us on earth".

What inference/ conclusion ?
The inference is since the dead are visible to us on earth, those who are saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance being explicit ( visible in the flesh) become exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So it is concluded that Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So it is concluded that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition, it has the hermeneutic of rupture.
What theology ?
The post -1949 theology says every one needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire.Since it assumes that defacto( in fact in the present times,explicitly) there are known exceptions to the interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.So it is a theology which assumes there is salvation outside the Church even though we cannot know of any one saved without 'faith and baptism'.
What Tradition?
Pre- 1949 Catholic Tradition, on salvation ( soteriology) says there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. The three dogmas on extra ecclesiam nulla salus ,defined by three Church Councils, do not mention any exception. The text also does not mention the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance.I am referring to Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 etc.
Also Mystici Corporis and the Council of Trent mention implicit desire etc but do not state that these cases are known to us, to be exceptions to the dogma.Neither do they state that there are exceptions to the dogma.
Yet with the false premise and inference is how the Council of Trent, the Catechism of Pope Pius X etc are interpreted.
Do you accept the baptism of desire?
Yes. I believe a Catechuman who has an implicit desire for the baptism of water and dies before he receives it can be saved. Since God will provide the means for him to receive the baptism of water. It has been the experience of saints, including St. Francis Xavier that some people returned from the dead only to be baptised by them with the baptism of water.
Irrational premise, Irrational inference, Non traditional conclusion
The secular media uses an irrational premise which is "We can see the dead who are now in Heaven, we can physically see them in Heaven and on earth".
They then make an irrational inference which is " Since we can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water and formal entry into the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church and these cases are an explicit exception to the traditional interpretation of EENS."
Their conclusion is : Vatican Council II is a break with EENS.
I accept the Magisterium
'For me the magisterial teaching of the Church documents (and not the contemporary magisterium i.e the persons in power) support the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( AG 7,LG 14, CCC 1257,845,846, Redemptoris Missio 55, Dominus Iesus 20 etc).

I accept the Magisterium ( Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14), CCC 1257, 845,846, Redemptoris Missio 55, Dominus Iesus 20, Council of Trent,Syllabus of Errors, Catechism of Pope Pius X, Cantate Dominio Council of Florence 1441 etc).
Magisterium, Scripture and Tradition, before and after Vatican Council II support Fr.Leonard Feeney and the four Catholic professors of theology, who were expelled by Boston College. http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2015/03/dont-blame-vatican-ii.html#comment-1943178630

Exclusivist ecclesiology?
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.

Who agrees with you?
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html

DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigionihttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links

 APRIL 15, 2015

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion : ChurchMilitant TV comment incomplete

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/04/sspx-must-continue-to-reject-vatican.html


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April 6, 2015

I accept the Magisterium of the Catholic Church according to magisterial documents.I reject the contemporary magisterium i.e persons in power



APRIL 24, 2019


Cushingite's strange doctrines


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