Saturday, September 15, 2018

Liberals, traditionalists and sedevacantists interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.We now know it is wrong and obsolete.There is a rational choice

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Vatican Council II supports extra eccclesiam nulla salus(EENS) 1. So there is no two ways of reading the Council, with two meanings. There can only be one rational way.
We cannot say that Gaudium et Specs 22 refers to people of good will who are saved outside the Church. There are no such cases known to us.This would be the irrational way of reading GS 22.
Instead we could say that GS 22 refers to only hyothetical cases in the present times(2018) and so is not an exception to the centuries old interpretation of EENS.
We cannot say that Ad Gentes 11 refers to Christians saved with 'seeds of the Word' since there are no such people in our reality to be exceptions to EENS.
Instead we could say that they refer to hypothetical cases and so are not objective exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
We cannot say that there is salvation outside the Catholic Church since Unitatits Redintigratio 3 refers to Christians in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church who are known to us.Personally we cannot name any such person.
May be some of the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II assumed that UR 3 referred to known people and not just hypothetical cases. This was the mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The Letter assumed that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance were visible exceptions to the dogma EENS.This is irrational. We cannot see people on earth or in Heaven, saved without faith and baptism. Also such people cannot be in two places at the same time, Heaven and on earth. This violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.
For there to be an exception to EENS there would have to be an objective case. This is the reality.
We would have to know the name and surname of someone in the present times, who has been saved without 'faith and baptism'. An invisible non Catholic, cannot be an objective exception to all needing to be incorporated into the Church for salvation.
It is obvious that we cannot know of any exception  who is now in Heaven saved outside the Church. This would only be known to God.
So we cannot meet or see cases of non Catholics, allegedly saved outside the Church and referred to in GS 22,AG 11, UR 3, LG 8, LG 14( it refers to the theoretical case of the unknown catechumen), LG 16 ( invincible ignorance/good conscience) etc.They refer to only hypothetical cases.They (GS 22 etc) can only be hypothetical cases for us human beings. They can be speculative possibilities, things hoped for.They are not examples of known to us,  non Catholics saved outside the Church.
With no exceptions to EENS mentioned in Vatican Council II we are back to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church and this is 'the Conciliar Church'.
With  the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II there can be no New Theology, New Ecclesiology, New Evangelisation and New Ecumenism. Since with a rational interpretation of Vatican Council II we know that there can be no known salvation outside the Church . So there are no  exceptions to EENS.
We are back to the Old Theology,Old Ecclesiology, Ecumenism of Return, Old Evangelisation knowing most people are on the way to Hell without faith and baptism.
This means the old reading of Vatican Council II based upon the irrationality( visible non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church) is now obsolete.
The liberals, traditionalists and sedevacantists have been interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.We now know it is wrong.
Since we are aware of the rational choice this way of reading Vatican Council II with two meanings; the for and against EENS method,is now obsolete.-Lionel Andrades



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SEPTEMBER 14, 2018

Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html

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