The issue is not just extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the baptism of desire etc but it is can a pope be a pope if he rejects a Catholic dogma EENS, re-interprets all the Creeds with an irrationality, re-interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition by using the same irrationality and makes the old Catechisms contradict themselves and the Syllabus of Errors.Can he still be a pope?
This has come as a surprise to traditionalists bloggers and commentators who have been superficially looking at this issue all these years and putting it away as 'Feeneyism'.
Cardinal Raymond Burke has said that a pope in heresy cannot be a pope.Both the popes today would deny that they are in heresy. When they want to change doctrine they say it is a change in discipline and not dogma.
But in this case, EENS and BOD, they are telling us there are two interpretations of EENS, two interpretations of the Creeds, two interpretations of Vatican Council II and the Catechsms and two interpretations of BOD, BOB and I.I. One is rational and the other irrational and they have chosen the irrational one to create a hermeneutic of rupture with the past popes. This is schism.It is also public heresy.
They do not have the right to offer Holy Mass with heresy. Since then the Mass is a sacrilege and a scandal even if it valid for others. They must rectifiy the public scandal before they offer the Sacraments.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) cannot announce that the two popes affirm the dogma EENS and do not reject it.Pope Benedict confirmed in March 2016 (Avvenire) that EENS had been changed. It was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.How was it changed? He said with Vatican Council II.
He does not interpret Vatican Council II also , like I do.For me LG 8,UR 3, GS 22 etc being hypothetical are not exceptions to the 16th century- EENS. But they are exceptions for Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. In other words LG 8 etc refer to known people in 2018 saved outside the Church.They would have to be known to be exceptions.They would have to visible to be exceptions.Invisible people cannot be relevant to EENS.
This is irrational and it is the official reasing of the two popes who are in public heresy. There cannot be known people saved outside the Church,since if any one is saved he or she would only be visible to God.Yet for them there are. Their entire new theology is based upon this error.
BOD, BOB and I.I like LG 8, UR 3, GS 22 etc are always theoretical and speculative. They can never refer to people seen in the flesh in the present times.
So it is clear that the present two popes like the CDF Prefect, the CDF Secretary and consultants do not affirm traditional EENS. They affirm an EENS which has exceptions, when there cannot be any exceptions.This is a variation. It is heresy.
Neither do they affirm the Creeds like they did in the 16th century. They interpret the Creeds with personally known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.It is no more ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' but 'I believe in three or more baptism, desire, blood, invincible ignorance etc, and they all exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
Similarly they do not interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms rationally as I do. Instead they create a rupture with Tradition, when there really is no rupture.They use a false premise and inference to create a non traditional conclusion.
So how can a pope be a pope when he changes the understanding of EENS, the Creeds, Vatican Council II and the Catechisms and upon this new theology based upon visible BOD, BOB and I.I approves Redemptoris Mission, Dominus Iesus, the Balamand Declaration and the Joint Statement on Justification with the Lutherans ? His theology is de-railed, creating brand new doctrines and he covers up all this.
In the 16th century this pope would have been put in prison for heresy and schism? -Lionel Andrades
December 5, 2018
December 5, 2018
This decides if the average Catholic and the present two popes are in heresy and schism https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/this-decides-if-average-catholic-and.html
November 28, 2018
This is the doctrine the two popes reject : valid Holy Mass but in sacrilege https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/this-is-doctrine-two-popes-reject-valid.html
November 27, 2018
NOVEMBER 23, 2018
Pope Francis simply has to interpret the BOD, BOB and I.I as not being exceptions to EENS : heresy and sacrilege end (Graphics )
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/pope-francis-sumply-has-to-interpret.html
NOVEMBER 23, 2018
Should not the cardinals and bishops also interpret BOD, BOB and I.I rationally and set an example for the pope? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/should-not-cardinals-and-bishops-also.html
Should not the cardinals and bishops also interpret BOD, BOB and I.I rationally and set an example for the pope? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/should-not-cardinals-and-bishops-also.html
NOVEMBER 22, 2018
St.Alphonsus
Liguori says that if a priest is in mortal sin do not go up to receive
the Eucharist from him - but what about a pope ? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/stalphonsus-liguori-says-that-if-priest.html
-Lionel Andrades
St.Alphonsus
Liguori says that if a priest is in mortal sin do not go up to receive
the Eucharist from him - but what about a pope ? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/stalphonsus-liguori-says-that-if-priest.html
-Lionel Andrades
AUGUST 10, 2018
Chris
Ferrara, Mons.Clifford Joseph Fenton, Fr. John Hardon, Plinio Corrêa de
Oliveira, Michael Davis, Dietrich von Hildebrand, Attila Guimares, Fr.
Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari and others did not know about it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/chris-ferrara-monsclifford-joseph.html
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December 5, 2018
Chris
Ferrara, Mons.Clifford Joseph Fenton, Fr. John Hardon, Plinio Corrêa de
Oliveira, Michael Davis, Dietrich von Hildebrand, Attila Guimares, Fr.
Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari and others did not know about it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/chris-ferrara-monsclifford-joseph.html
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