Thursday, February 7, 2019

In Heaven there are only Catholics for Diane Montagna and Fr. John Zuhlsdorf ?

Diane Montagna says Islam and other religions are not paths to salvation (Dominus Iesus) and I agree with her but is she willing to say that in Heaven there are only Catholics and outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation ?
Not likely.
Since she would be confused by Ad Gentes 7 ( invincible ignorance) which she has quoted. 1.
It is the same with Fr. John Zuhlsdorf  cited in her report on LifeSitesNews.
They both look at invincible ignorance in isolation as if it is a known person saved outside the Church.She calls it ' a possibility' but for her it would be someone concrete, real and known this year or over the last years.This is her mistake.
There is no one as such known this year, last year or over the last 100 years.
So why mention invincible ignorance with reference to all needing to enter the Church for salvation(Dominus Iesus).
This is a zero case. It does not exist.There is no such person saved in invincible ignorance whom we can know. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
So all need faith and baptism for salvation (AG 7, LG 14) and in Heaven there are only Catholics.
-Lionel Andrades



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February 6, 2019

Diane Montagna does not qualify if invincible ignorance is an exception to Ad Gentes 7 saying all need faith and baptism for salvation 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/diane-montagna-does-not-qualify-if.html

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February 5, 2019

Pope Francis and Sheik Ahmad el-Tayeb, grand imam of Egypt's al-Azhar mosque


Catholic media does not say that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/catholic-media-does-not-say-that.html

 St.Benedict Center Status Change (48)

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FEBRUARY 1, 2019

Pope John Paul rejected a Christian theology of religious pluralism and salvation and now Pope Francis has promoted it at the CDF-FABC conference with Asian Bishops held in Thailand last month.

Pope John Paul rejected a Christian theology of religious pluralism and salvation and now Pope Francis has promoted it at the CDF-FABC conference with Asian Bishops held in Thailand last month.
The CDF Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis s, (2001) said 7. According to Catholic doctrine, the followers of other religions are oriented to the Church and are all called to become part of her'.Now the CDF is saying that they do not need to do so.
 Myanmar - Cardinal Bo, SDB, new President of Federation of Asia Episcopal Conferences
Pope John Paul II in November 1999 visited New Delhi,promulgated"Ecclesia in Asia" and called on non Christians to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.But now the message is that they do not have to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
The norm for salvation was faith and baptism ( Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II) but now for the CDF it seems, invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire (CCC 847-848) are exceptions to the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and Ad Gentes 7. This was the message of Archbishop Augustine di Noia, Ad junct Secretary, CDF in correspondence with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior of the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA.
This is magisterial heresy, official heresy and it is supported by the present two popes and the CDF.They have changed the Catholic faith.
The same was done with morals through Amoris Laetitia and Pope Benedict's New Moral Theology taught at pontifical universities and seminaries.
The Vatican is following the Left and Satan and we have to live with it or not legally be called Catholics.
The present magisterium, as in the case of the St.Benedict Center, legally threatens you if you are not following Satan and the same irrationality and new doctrines and theology are to be spread in Asia.
-Lionel Andrades

 http://www.infoans.org/en/sections/news/item/6772-myanmar-cardinal-bo-sdb-new-president-of-federation-of-asia-episcopal-conferences

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/bollettino/pubblico/2019/01/18/0039/00095.html#en

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THURSDAY, JANUARY 31, 2019

How can we legally not be Catholic( for the leftist CDF) and still support traditional Catholic mission?

 How can we legally not be Catholic( for the leftist CDF) and still support traditional Catholic mission?

It would be simple.Since the teachings of the Church on faith and morals have not changed.They cannot change.
Even if the present two popes are politically influenced(threathened) by the Left, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla  salus(EENS).The red passages are not exceptions to the blue. 1 
So there is no change in magisterial documents.There is no new revelation in Vatican Council II when the red is not  an exception to theblue.
So we still invite people into the Catholic Church and tell them that membership in the Church is necessary; all need Catholic faith and the baptism of water.
But when they are in the Catholic Church they must interpret magisterial documents with thered not being an exception to the blue, even though the two popes do the opposite.
We are still Catholic and we support the hierarchical Church, the institution,  but avoid heresy and sacrilege.Even with the errors, the change in salvation theology and the new moral theology, this still is Jesus' Church.The Eucharist is valid, the Sacraments are valid, the Holy Mass is still the un-bloody Sacrifice of Jesus , re-enacted.
Tomorrow the Church may be forced to accept gay marriages in church and also abortion.We do not accept it , but we still stay in the Church.
Even when there is a schism, we still stay and support the Church, and personally affirm the traditional teachings on faith and morals, always interpreted with the red not being an excepton to the blue.
We know that Jesus is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow and so the teachings of the Catholic Church do not change.So even when there is a schism there is no change in our traditional beliefs, supported by Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Sacred Tradition.
So even when we are excommunicated for really being a Catholic, in our heart and actions, we still choose to remanin Catholic.
Since if we are legally not Catholics, for the CDF, then neither were the majority of the past popes and saints.Then neither were the Council Fathers, Catholic at Vatican Council II, when the Council is interpreted with the red not being an exception to the blue.
We know that the popes and saints are part of the Church Triumphant, even if they are not Catholic for the CDF. In Heaven there are only Catholics, who are there with faith and baptism(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).
Today the CDF has approved mission assuming there is known salvation outside the Church.
Those Catholics who say that there is no known salvation outside the Church, which is something obvious-it is common sense since we cannot see people in Heaven - will be legally told by the CDF, not to call themselves Catholic.
They will be called traditionalists even though many of them affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which also say that all need faith and baptism for salvation and so there are only Catholics in Heaven.
-Lionel Andrades



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JANUARY 28, 2019

In Magisterial documents the red is not an exception to the blue, thered does not contradict the blue : with the blue there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition (16th - century extra ecclesium nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, past exclusivist ecclesiology etc) 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/in-magisterial-documents-red-is-not.html


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TUESDAY, JANUARY 29, 2019

Pope Francis' ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue, like that of popes Benedict, John Paul II and Paul VI, is based on 'the red being an exception to the blue'.This is the new theology also used by the CMRI in the Diocese of Manchester

Pope Francis' ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue, like that of popes Benedict, John Paul II and Paul VI, is based on 'the red being an exception to the blue'.This is the new theology.
The St. Benedict Center's ecumenism of return and inter-religious dialogue, to create new members in the Catholic Church, is based on 'thered  is  not being an exception to the blue'.


The issue gets complicated when the sedevacantist Bishop Mark Pivarunas of the Congregatio Mariae  Reginae Immaculatae(CMRI), also in the Diocese of Manchester,USA, supports an ecumenism of return and inter-religious dialogue, with the need for non Catholics to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell- but for them too, like for Bishop Peter Libasci, , ' the red is an exception to the blue'.
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The CMRI are also traditionalists like the St. Benedict Center(SBC).But for the SBC, 'the red is not an exception to the blue'.So they are called Feeneyites.
To be a Feeneyite is to say that 'the red is not an exception to the blue'.
For the Feeneyite the blue passages in magisterial documents support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and the red passages are not exceptions.

But for  the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the CMRI and the SSPX it is the opposite.These traditionalists use the New Theology, of the liberals.
So the diocese of Madison,on their website, have cautioned Catholics not to attend Holy Mass at the CMRI  chapel,since (even though they accept that 'the red is an exception to the blue' and they are not aware of it) they do not accept Pope Francis as the pope.
The pope affirms the New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Theology. For him there is no ecumenism of return and the need for non Catholics to enter the Catholic Church, for salvation(to avoid Hell).
Like the CMRI, for Pope Francis, 'the red is an exception to the blue'.However the pope accepts the non traditional conclusion and they reject it and so go into sedevacantism.
-Lionel Andrades





What is the status of “The Religious Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen” and “Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Mission” in Salem?
A group which calls itself “The Religious Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen” (“CMRI”) has established a church in Salem by the name of “Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Mission.” On its website, this group indicates that it offers the Tridentine Rite Mass (sometimes referred to as the “Traditional” or “Latin” Mass), Catechism classes for children, and Confessions and other sacraments.
This group and this church are not Catholic, and do not have the right to call themselves Catholic. CMRI is not in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, and the sacraments they claim to offer have no validity in the Roman Catholic Church. Catholics are not permitted to receive the sacraments from CMRI ministers under any circumstances, nor should they participate in any activity provided by this group.
The members of CMRI are what are called “sedevacantists,” meaning that they believe that the current pope is not truly the pope and that the See of St. Peter is vacant. They believe that there has not been a pope in the Catholic Church since the death of Saint John XXIII, and therefore do not recognize any subsequent pope, including Pope Francis, as head of the Church.
For those who have a desire to attend a celebration of the Tridentine Rite Mass within the Church in union with the Holy See, visit our online directory for a listing of our Latin Masses.
If you have any questions about the relationship between CMRI and the Roman Catholic Church, please contact your pastor, or the diocese.
https://www.catholicnh.org/about/stay-informed/frequently-asked-questions/#stbenedict










The CDF and the Diocese of Manchester's legal notice to the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire is based on theology : are passages marked in red exceptons to those in blue ?

The CDF and the Diocese of Manchester's legal notice to the St. Benedict Center(SBC), New Hampshire is based on theology.The ecclesiastics do not accept that passages in blue in all Magisterial documents affirm traditional, exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and thered passages are not exceptions.
For the SBC the red passages are not exceptions to the blue passages.It is here where they differ with the CDF.
Since the SBC will not irrationally say that the red passages are practical exceptions to the text in blue, as does the 'present magisterium', they have received a legal notice from the 'magisterium' saying they are not Catholic.They have to inform the Inland Revenue Service about this and make announcements.
Brother Andre Marie MICM has responded by taking this case to St. Joseph and asking all for prayers.
-Lionel Andrades



JANUARY 29, 2019


All Magisterial documents with the blue passages, affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so support Brother Andre Marie MICM : in Heaven there are only Catholics is magisterial

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/all-magisterial-passages-with-blue.html



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