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It is incredible how dishonest the liberals on this forum are when they give the impression that Fr. Feeney was the first Catholic to teach that Baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation.
St. John Chrysostom taught: “For the Catechumen is a stranger to the Faithful. He has not the same Head, he has not the same Father, he has not the same City, nor Food, nor Raiment, nor Table, nor House, but all are different; all are on earth to the former, to the latter all are in heaven. One has Christ for his King; the other, sin and the devil; the food of one is Christ, of the other, that meat which decays and perishes; one has worms' work for his raiment, the other the Lord of angels; heaven is the city of one, earth of the other...If it should come to pass, (which God forbid!) that through the sudden arrival of death we depart hence uninitiated, though we have ten thousand virtues, our portion will be no other than hell, and the venomous worm, and fire unquenchable, and bonds indissoluble.” (Homily 25 on the Gospel of St. John)
St Gregory Nazianzen taught: “If you were able to judge a man who intends to commit murder solely by his intention and without any act of murder, then you could likewise reckon as baptized one who desired baptism. But, since you cannot do the former, how can you do the latter? If you prefer, we will put it this way: If, in your opinion, desire has equal power with actual baptism, then make the same judgment in regard to glory. You would then be satisfied to desire glory, as though that longing itself were glory. Do you suffer any damage by not attaining the actual glory, as long as you have a desire for it? I cannot see it!” (Oration on Divine Light, XL, #23)
St. Ambrose taught: “One is the Baptism which the Church administers: the Baptism of water and the Holy Ghost, with which catechumens need to be baptized…Nor does the mystery of regeneration exist at all without water: ‘For unless a man be born again of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom.’ Now, even the catechumen believes in the cross of the Lord Jesus, with which he also signs himself; but, unless he be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, he cannot receive remission of his sins nor the gift of spiritual grace.” (De Mysteriis, The Divine Office)
St. Augustine taught: “I care naught that today of all days you expect to hear something pleasant from me. I must warn you in the words of Holy Scripture: ‘Defer it not from day to day, for his wrath shall come on a sudden.’ God knows that I tremble in my cathedra myself when I hear those words. I must not, I cannot, be silent. I am compelled to preach to you on this matter and to make you fearful, being myself full of fear. How dangerous is every delay! How many rascals are saved by being baptized on their deathbeds? And how many earnest catechumens die unbaptized and are lost forever?” (quoted in Augustine the Bishop by F. Van der Meer)
These kinds of quotes from saints could be multiplied indefinitely, but the reason we "Feeneyites" do not often engage in the quote war is because the main difference between us and our liberal enemies is that we adhere to dogma as the rule of faith and not theologians. Dogma is the rule of faith and this is proven by the definition of a heretic as a baptized person who refuses to believe a dogma of the faith. A heretic is not defined as a baptized person who refuses to believe a particular teaching of certain theologians. "If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater" (1 St. John 5:9). Dogmas are divine testimonies; they are greater than the testimonies of men.
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