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From Gloria Dei the website of Bishop Athanasius Schneider
Declaration Of The Truths
“The Church of the living God – the pillar and the bulwark of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15) Declaration of the truths relating to some of the most common errors in the life of the Church of our time The Fundamentals of Faith
1. The right meaning of the expressions ‘living tradition,’ ‘living Magisterium,’ ‘hermeneutic of continuity,’ and ‘development of doctrine’ includes the truth that whatever new insights may be expressed regarding the deposit of faith, nevertheless they cannot be contrary to what the Church has always proposed in the same dogma, in the same sense, and in the same meaning (see First Vatican Council, Dei Filius, sess. 3, c. 4: “in eodem dogmate, eodem sensu, eademque sententia”).
Lionel: When the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) and Bishop Athanasius Schneider use a false premise to create a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Church( before the 1930's), on exclusive salvation with no known exceptions, it is not magisterial. The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake by confusing what is invisible as visible and hypothetical as real.It is not magisterial to reach a non traditional conclusion with a false premise.
If the false premise is not used then there is a 'hermeneutic of continuity' but with the false premise used by Bishop Athanasius Schneider there is a false 'development of doctrine.'
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2. “The meaning of dogmatic formulas remains ever true and constant in the Church, even when it is expressed with greater clarity or more developed. The faithful therefore must shun the opinion, first, that dogmatic formulas (or some category of them) cannot signify truth in a determinate way, but can only offer changeable approximations to it, which to a certain extent distort or alter it; secondly, that these formulas signify the truth only in an indeterminate way, this truth being like a goal that is constantly being sought by means of such approximations. Those who hold such an opinion do not avoid dogmatic relativism and they corrupt the concept of the Church’s infallibility relative to the truth to be taught or held in a determinate way.” (Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Declaration “Mysterium Ecclesiae” in defense of the Catholic doctrine on the Church against certain errors of the present day, 5). The Creed
Lionel: When unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are considered known people; known non Catholics saved outside the Church, it is a false premise. This false premise will produce a false inference and contradict the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441) or the Athanasius Creed on all needing Catholic faith and the baptism of water, for salvation.
The use of a false premise by traditionalists and liberals is now obsolete.We have found the missing link. We now know what causes the 'hermeneutic of rupture' with Tradition and we can avoid it.
The CDF and Bishop Schneider interpret BOD, BOB and I.I with the false premise. So there are alleged known exceptions to traditional EENS. There are visible exceptions for them to John 3:5. There are exceptions to the Athanasius Creed which is also made obsolete. There is a Vatican Council II with exceptions to EENS instead of a Vatican Council II, without exceptions to EENS etc.
This is a false development of doctrine.It is created with a false premise and inference.The result is a rupture with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc).
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3. “The Kingdom of God begun here below in the Church of Christ is not of this world whose form is passing, and its proper growth cannot be confounded with the progress of civilization, of science or of human technology, but it consists in an ever more profound knowledge of the unfathomable riches of Christ, an ever stronger hope in eternal blessings, an ever more ardent response to the love of God, and an ever more generous bestowal of grace and holiness among men. The deep solicitude of the Church, the Spouse of Christ, for the needs of men, for their joys and hopes, their griefs and efforts, is therefore nothing other than her great desire to be present to them, in order to illuminate them with the light of Christ and to gather them all in Him, their only Savior. This solicitude can never mean that the Church conforms herself to the things of this world, or that she lessens the ardor of her longing of her Lord and of the eternal Kingdom” (Paul VI, Apostolic letter Solemni hac liturgia (Credo of the People of God), 27). The opinion is, therefore, erroneous that says that God is glorified principally by the very fact of the progress in the temporal and earthly condition of the human race.
Lionel: When BOD, BOB and I.I are assumed to be known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism, then a rupture is created between Jesus and the Church and Jesus and the Kingdom of God. Dominus Iesus had to address this common problem.
Today Jesus is projected as the Saviour of the world, it is necessary to believe in Him but the Church is not necessary for salvation. It is not necessary, it is believed, to be a member of the Catholic Church, with faith and baptism for salvation, since there are 'known exceptions'.
This is an error which has not been corrected by Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
4. After the institution of the New and Everlasting Covenant in Jesus Christ, no one may be saved by obedience to the law of Moses alone without faith in Christ as true God and the only Savior of humankind (see Rom 3:28; Gal 2:16).
Lionel : Here is proof of the separation of Jesus and the Church, Jesus and the Kingdom of God.It is not said that all need faith in Christ and also all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.There are known exceptions for Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
He also supports a religious theology of Christian pluralism and is unable to say that belief in Jesus is not enough. He also needs to say that all need to follow the moral law taught by Jesus e.g some Christian communities officially support abortion and homosexual unions. He does not say that belief in Jesus is not enough in all cases and that every one has to follow the moral law on faith, the true faith e.g.the Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus and St.Michael the Archangel are the same.
So the pagans in North America before Columbus were all oriented to Hell until the missionaries went there.
So the pagans in North America before Columbus were all oriented to Hell until the missionaries went there.
Bishop Schneider does not say that all Orthodox Christians and Protestants are on the way to Heaven even though they believe in Jesus outside the Catholic Church.In general they need Catholic faith for salvation.
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5. Muslims and others who lack faith in Jesus Christ, God and man, even monotheists, cannot give to God the same adoration as Christians do, that is to say, supernatural worship in Spirit and in Truth (see Jn 4:24; Eph 2:8) of those who have received the Spirit of filial adoption (see Rom 8:15).
Lionel: Are they all oriented to Hell with no known exceptions ? This question is always left unanswered.Since there are known exceptions to EENS for Bishop Schneider.There are exceptions to the Athanasius Creed for Bishop Athanasius Schneider and the CDF.
The Catechism of the Council of Trent contradicts itself and contradicts Tradition for Bishop Schneider.
This catechism mentions, the phrase 'the desiretherof'. it is a reference to a hypothetical and speculative case for me. For Bishop Schneider and the CDF this is an exception to Feeneyite EENS. So they imply that this is a reference to a visible and known person saved outside the Church without faith and the baptism of water. Only in this way 'the desirethereof' can be an exception to EENS.
This was also the error in the Baltimore Catechism. The baptism of desire was placed in the Baptism Section of that catechism.The baptism of desire is not visible like the baptism of water. We cannot administer it to any one.
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6. Spiritualities and religions that promote any kind of idolatry or pantheism cannot be considered either as “seeds” or as “fruits” of the Divine Word, since they are deceptions that preclude the evangelization and eternal salvation of their adherents, as it is taught by Holy Scripture: “the god of this world has made blind the minds of those who have not faith, so that the light of the good news of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, might not be shining on them” (2 Cor 4:4).
Lionel:Agreed.
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7. True ecumenism intends that non-Catholics should enter that unity which the Catholic Church already indestructibly possesses in virtue of the prayer of Christ, always heard by His Father, “that they may be one” (John 17:11), and which she professes in the Symbol of Faith, “I believe in one Church.” Ecumenism, therefore, may not legitimately have for its goal the establishment of a Church that does not yet exist.
Lionel: So are they all going to Hell in other Christian denominations? This question is always left unanswered since Bishop Athananasius Schneider considers the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 correct. He assumes that there are literal cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I which are known to us,literally, and so they are exceptions to EENS.So EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century is obsolete for Pope Benedict and the CDF.
8. Hell exists and those who are condemned to hell for any unrepented mortal sin are eternally punished there by Divine justice (see Mt 25:46). Not only fallen angels but also human souls are damned eternally (see 2 Thess 1:9; 2 Pet 3:7). Eternally damned human beings will not be annihilated, since their souls are immortal according to the infallible teaching of the Church (see Fifth Lateran Council, sess. 8).
Lionel: Will all non Catholics go to the fires of Hell since they die without faith and the baptism of water (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II) ?The norm for salvation in the Catholic Church, is faith and baptism. We personally cannot judge in particular cases with our human judgement, only God can know. However the Church inspired by the Holy Spirit tells us that the norm for salvation is faith and baptism. The norm is not the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.So we can judge, when we meet a non Catholic, that he or she is oriented to Hell, since the Church inspired by the Holy Spirit teaches us this. This is the teaching of Vatican Council II( interpeted rationally). So it is the teaching of the Church today.It is not just a private opinion.
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9. The religion born of faith in Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son of God and the only Savior of humankind, is the only religion positively willed by God. The opinion is, therefore, wrong that says that just as God positively wills the diversity of the male and female sexes and the diversity of nations, so in the same way he also wills the diversity of religions.
Lionel: Agreed.
10. “Our [Christian] religion effectively establishes with God an authentic and living relationship which the other religions do not succeed in doing, even though they have, as it were, their arms stretched out towards heaven” (Paul VI, Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii nuntiandi, 53).
Lionel: So I repeat,' Are all non Catholics oriented to Hell without Catholic faith and/or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'?.-Lionel Andrades
https://www.gloriadei.io/declaration-of-the-truths/
JUNE 13, 2020
The CDF and Bishop Athanasius Schneider support heresy : here is the proof
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-cdf-and-bishop-athanasius-schneider.html
JUNE 12, 2020
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and the CDF want the tradtiionalist Brother Andre Marie MICM to use the false premise ( Graphics )
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/bishop-athanasius-schneider-and-cdf.html
JUNE 12, 2020
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and the Lefebvrists are unable to tell the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that they are using a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/bishop-athanasius-schneider-and.html
JUNE 11, 2020
Repost : Bishop's Oath of Fidelity : how does he interpret Vatican Council II ?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/repost-bishops-oath-of-fidelity-how.html
JUNE 11, 2020
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