In the Comments Section along with the report on the Doctrinal Beliefs on the website Catholicism.org of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, Richmond N.H,the Prior,Brother Andre Marie MICM, has not affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The comments are ambivalent.

In the Comments Section along with the report on the Doctrinal Beliefs on the website Catholicism.org of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, Richmond N.H,the Prior,Brother Andre Marie MICM,  has not affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The comments are ambivalent.Even the Doctrinal Beliefs are written in a vague style.It does not make the clear distinction between Cushingism and Feeneyism i.e Vatican Council II and EENS interpreted with or without the false premise.

I am not allowed to post on the Catholicism.org comment box. I do not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II or EENS.

For me the baptism of desire is not an exception to EENS since it is only hypothetical. So there are  no practical exceptions to EENS in real life and there are none mentioned in Vatican Council II, for me.

When the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) asked Brother Andre Marie to accept the Catechism of the Catholic Church 847-848 as an exception to EENS, it had to be clearly rejected.This message is not there in the post on the Doctrinal Beliefs. Neither is it there in the comments section of the website.

Similarly Brother Thomas Augustine MICM, Superior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart , Still River, MA,USA in the diocese of Worcester, also avoids this issue. There is no statement on this issue on their website.They have accepted Vatican Council II with the false premise, like the rest of the diocese.

They have full canonical recognition by the CDF and Bishop Robert McMahon, bishop of Worcester, since they accept and interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational observation, to create the hermenutic of rupture with EENS as it was interpreted by Fr.Leonard Feeney.

The St. Benedict Centers need to tell us that they continue to accept Vatican Council II and do not interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in the Council, as being objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.

This means they accept the Council as a reality, but do not interpret it like the popes from Paul VI to Francis i.e as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS and the rest of Tradition.

Otherwise they would be accepting a parallel Church in the Catholic Church which is a break with the past Magisterium on the  traditional teaching supporting exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

Doctrinal Beliefs

 APR 15, 2019  BROTHER ANDRÉ MARIE

https://catholicism.org/doctrinal-belief.html

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  andrew wheeler • a year ago

  
  

  This is all so confusing and academic to a lay Catholic. I read a little at a time. I hit my head in 2016 and things go slower. I'm 40 now. I'd like to better understand the above doctrine. If anyone could explain some of it to me in plain English, with the sacraments as a basis, I'd love to know more. But, that's a lot to ask of strangers, I understand.

  
  

  
  
  
  

  
  

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    Louis Mountbatten  andrew wheeler • a year ago • edited

    
    

    Unfortunately Andrew, Brother Andre (in my opinion) has fallen victim to perpetual word-smithing inasmuch as it applies to the traditional understanding of the Salvation Dogma. There is only one exception to Eternal Damnation, and that is Faith in Christ by visible membership in His Catholic Church; no conspiracies around the Deluge by virtue of "Baptism of Desire" or "Invincible Ignorance". Rome, currently that is, officially teaches that salvation can and may be achieved outside the Church, despite all evidence and previous teaching pointing to the contrary. This isn't difficult to understand (not referring to you, but to Catholics as a general whole).

    
    

    
    
    
    

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      andrew wheeler  Louis Mountbatten • a year ago

      
      

      Thank you.

    
    
    

    Louis Mountbatten • a year ago

    
    

    Your Order was the last hope in this country for Doctrinal reunification in this Church which has decided to destroy itself. The fact that you have decided to abandon belief in the Salvation Dogma in favor of a convoluted, polemical, incoherent comprehension tells all your readers that the Established Church can no longer be trusted, as visibly speaking, it does not represent the timeless Catholic Faith.