Since Michael Voris and CMTV have to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise they can do nothing about the Catholic school children in Detroit, having also to interpret the Council with the false premise.
The Rector at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit, has to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise to remain in good standing with the Congregation for Catholic Education, Vatican.
The Funamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott, which CMTV and Prof. Robert Fastiggi promoted in Detroit, accepts the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II.Both are intepreted bhy Ludwig Ott, with a false premise.- Lionel Andrades
FEBRUARY 27, 2020
Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott (1953) (Baronius) and The Catholic Church and Salvation(1958) by Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton : authors were not aware of the irrational premise, inference and conclusion
Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott was written in 1952.This was after the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office(LOHO) was made public, with its irrational premise, inference and conclusion.So Ott would have picked up the error. In 1958 Mons. Joseph Clifford Fenton wrote The Catholic Church and Salvation. He has mentioned the LOHO in this book and was not aware of the false premise.
Baronius Press publishes Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma with an approval given by Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof. Robert Fastiggi.
Both of them also interpret Vatican Council II with the same irrational premise, inference and conclusion.
I have mentioned this before 1 but there is no comment from either of them or denial from Baronius Press. The book by Ludwig Ott is not available free on line.It can also be bought at Amazon.
-Lionel Andrades1
June 2, 2018
Baronius Press and Dr.Robert Fastiggi have brought out a new edition of Ludwig Otts Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma since it supports the present liberalism in the Catholic Church, with its Cushingite theology
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/baronius-press-and-drrobert-fastiggi.html
JUNE 2, 2018
Ludwig Ott is in a rupture with the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century and Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441
JUNE 1, 2018
Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is Cushingite, it overlooks an irrationality in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof Robert Fastiggi also use the false premise to interpret BOD, BOB and I.I and Magisterial documents to create a schism with the past popes
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/ludwig-otts-fundamentals-of-catholic.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/message-incomplete-come-back-after-30.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/fundamentals-of-catholic-dogma-by.html
JUNE 1, 2018
Luwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma uses Cushingite philosophy and theology.So it assumes that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), as it was known to the popes and saints of the past.
For the Magisterium in the 16th century, EENS was Feeneyite and not Cushingite, since BOD, BOB and I.l were Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
So this is a theological and doctrinal flaw in Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma and it,like the Arian heresy of the past, has spread throughout the Catholic Church today.
It is also with Cushingism that Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof. Robert Fastiggi interpret Vatican Council II and EENS.
Prof. Fastiggi is critical of Fr. Leonard Feeney. But Fr.Feeney did not say that he could see invisible people on earth, he refused to say that people in Heaven were objective exceptions on earth to the traditional interpretation of EENS. He did not interpret BOD,BOB and I.I with Cushingism,like Prof. Fastiggi, Ralph Martin and Phillip Blosser and the rest of the faculty at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, USA.
In 1949 the Holy Office made a mistake when it assumed invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. It also created a schism with the past popes. The Cushingite error was repeated in Vatican Council II by Council Fathers and Cardinal Ratzinger upheld the mistake in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994), Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Balamand Declaration, Code of Canon Law (1983) and two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.It was a direct attack on the dogma EENS with the use of an irrational premise to create a non traditional conclusion.
Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is used in religions formation by Catholic traditionalists and liberals.
Like the apologists John Hardon, Monsgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton and Fr. William Most, Ott did not know that BOD, BOB and I.I were being interpreted by the liberal theologians as a rupture with Tradition.They did this by confusing what is invisible as visible, implicit as explicit and hypothetical as being defacto and objective known in the present times.So their narrative was that Mystici Corporis, Quanta Cura and the Catechisms of Pius X and Trent contradicted Feeneyite EENS when BOD, BOB and I.I were mentioned. But this was false. Since BOD, BOB and I.I can only be hypothetical. This is a given. This was how St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine understood it.
Fr.John Hardon used this flawed reasoning also in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) and Vatican Council II.
For me, the Catechism(1994) and Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism, that is , without the false premise.So the conclusion is not a rupture with Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades
From Rorate Caeili
A few weeks ago Baronius Press released what it describes as a new edition of Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma. Although based on the original translation by Dr. Patrick Lynch it has been "fully revised and updated" by Dr. Robert Fastiggi, apparently in the light of Ott's 1969 German text of the Fundamentals. The preface to the new edition by Dr. Fastiggi -- full text on the Baronius Press website -- describes at length the revisions made to the translation. In the preface, Fastiggi notes that "(w)hile Fr. Ott made some revisions in 1969, it would be wrong to find in these any notable change in his theological posture from the decade prior to Vatican II. Ludwig Ott always remained faithful to the Church’s perennial Magisterium, and he is careful to distinguish theological speculations from the constant teaching of the Church"
For this edition of the Fundamentals the Foreword came from no other than Bishop Athanasius Schneider. The full text, as provided on the Baronius Press website:
Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma has proven to be an indispensable guide to Catholic doctrine since it was first published in the 1950’s. Whether in the original language or in its French and English translations, it has been favoured by generations of readers because of its rare combination of relative brevity with comprehensiveness. I congratulate Baronius Press and Dr. Robert Fastiggi for bringing out this comprehensively revised translation of the last edition of the Fundamentals.We live at a time of grave doctrinal confusion when the sheep are often left without shepherds. Against the dangers of doctrinal ambiguity and the loss of clarity in moral matters, the faithful are called more than ever to seek to know their faith, so they can defend it and pass it on to their children. Catechism is necessary, but perhaps now it is not enough to only know one’s Catechism. The subtlety of the many contemporary errors assaulting the faith practically require from the ordinary faithful today a good understanding of Catholic doctrine that is not separated from its traditional and immutable roots. For this task, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is eminently suitable. It presents the immutable truths of Catholic theology backed by the teachings of the Magisterium in the past two millennia, not the latest speculations of fashionable and media-friendly theologians who in reality want another religion. It uses language that is simple and clear – virtues often forgotten today – and is brief enough to fit into one volume. May it help the light of faith shine clearer and brighter for countless Catholic faithful, may it help them live the faith in all its purity. And to all who read this book I grant my blessing.Bishop Athanasius Schneider, O.R.C.,
Titular Bishop of Celerina
Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2018/06/for-record-baronius-press-revised.html
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Baronius Press and Dr.Robert Fastiggi have brought out a new edition of Ludwig Otts Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma since it supports the present liberalism in the Catholic Church, with its Cushingite theology
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/baronius-press-and-drrobert-fastiggi.html
JUNE 2, 2018
Ludwig Ott is in a rupture with the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century and Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441
JUNE 1, 2018
Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is Cushingite, it overlooks an irrationality in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof Robert Fastiggi also use the false premise to interpret BOD, BOB and I.I and Magisterial documents to create a schism with the past popes
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/ludwig-otts-fundamentals-of-catholic.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/message-incomplete-come-back-after-30.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/fundamentals-of-catholic-dogma-by.html
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JUNE 1, 2018
Luwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogmauses Cushingite philosophy and theology.So it assumes that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), as it was known to the popes and saints of the past.
For the Magisterium in the 16th century, EENS was Feeneyite and not Cushingite, since BOD, BOB and I.l were Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
So this is a theological and doctrinal flaw in Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma and it,like the Arian heresy of the past, has spread throughout the Catholic Church today.
It is also with Cushingism that Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Prof. Robert Fastiggi interpret Vatican Council II and EENS.
Prof. Fastiggi is critical of Fr. Leonard Feeney. But Fr.Feeney did not say that he could see invisible people on earth, he refused to say that people in Heaven were objective exceptions on earth to the traditional interpretation of EENS. He did not interpret BOD,BOB and I.I with Cushingism,like Prof. Fastiggi, Ralph Martin and Phillip Blosser and the rest of the faculty at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, USA.
In 1949 the Holy Office made a mistake when it assumed invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. It also created a schism with the past popes. The Cushingite error was repeated in Vatican Council II by Council Fathers and Cardinal Ratzinger upheld the mistake in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994), Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Balamand Declaration, Code of Canon Law (1983) and two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.It was a direct attack on the dogma EENS with the use of an irrational premise to create a non traditional conclusion.
Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is used in religions formation by Catholic traditionalists and liberals.
Like the apologists John Hardon, Monsgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton and Fr. William Most, Ott did not know that BOD, BOB and I.I were being interpreted by the liberal theologians as a rupture with Tradition.They did this by confusing what is invisible as visible, implicit as explicit and hypothetical as being defacto and objective known in the present times.So their narrative was that Mystici Corporis, Quanta Cura and the Catechisms of Pius X and Trent contradicted Feeneyite EENS when BOD, BOB and I.I were mentioned. But this was false. Since BOD, BOB and I.I can only be hypothetical. This is a given. This was how St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine understood it.
Fr.John Hardon used this flawed reasoning also in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) and Vatican Council II.
For me, the Catechism(1994) and Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism, that is , without the false premise.So the conclusion is not a rupture with Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades
From Rorate Caeili
A few weeks ago Baronius Press released what it describes as a new edition of Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma. Although based on the original translation by Dr. Patrick Lynch it has been "fully revised and updated" by Dr. Robert Fastiggi, apparently in the light of Ott's 1969 German text of the Fundamentals. The preface to the new edition by Dr. Fastiggi -- full text on the Baronius Press website -- describes at length the revisions made to the translation. In the preface, Fastiggi notes that "(w)hile Fr. Ott made some revisions in 1969, it would be wrong to find in these any notable change in his theological posture from the decade prior to Vatican II. Ludwig Ott always remained faithful to the Church’s perennial Magisterium, and he is careful to distinguish theological speculations from the constant teaching of the Church"
For this edition of the Fundamentals the Foreword came from no other than Bishop Athanasius Schneider. The full text, as provided on the Baronius Press website:
Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma has proven to be an indispensable guide to Catholic doctrine since it was first published in the 1950’s. Whether in the original language or in its French and English translations, it has been favoured by generations of readers because of its rare combination of relative brevity with comprehensiveness. I congratulate Baronius Press and Dr. Robert Fastiggi for bringing out this comprehensively revised translation of the last edition of the Fundamentals.We live at a time of grave doctrinal confusion when the sheep are often left without shepherds. Against the dangers of doctrinal ambiguity and the loss of clarity in moral matters, the faithful are called more than ever to seek to know their faith, so they can defend it and pass it on to their children. Catechism is necessary, but perhaps now it is not enough to only know one’s Catechism. The subtlety of the many contemporary errors assaulting the faith practically require from the ordinary faithful today a good understanding of Catholic doctrine that is not separated from its traditional and immutable roots. For this task, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma is eminently suitable. It presents the immutable truths of Catholic theology backed by the teachings of the Magisterium in the past two millennia, not the latest speculations of fashionable and media-friendly theologians who in reality want another religion. It uses language that is simple and clear – virtues often forgotten today – and is brief enough to fit into one volume. May it help the light of faith shine clearer and brighter for countless Catholic faithful, may it help them live the faith in all its purity. And to all who read this book I grant my blessing.Bishop Athanasius Schneider, O.R.C.,
Titular Bishop of Celerina
Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2018/06/for-record-baronius-press-revised.html
From the tags/labels in the right hand bar
- Bishop Athanasius Schneider (27)
- Bishop Athanasius Schneider still at sea (6)
- Bishop Athansius Schneider (24)
- Bishop Athansius Schneider still politically correct (2)
- Prof. Robert Fastiggi (1)
- Dr.Robert Fastiggi (16)
- Dr.Robert Fastiggi debate (5)
- Dr.Robert Fastiggi's Scorecard (3)
- Dr.Ralph Martin (3)
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