The SSPX can now ask Pope Francis to affirm Vatican Council II just as he had asked it of them, for canonical recognition.With the Five Points ask him to affirm the Council with the hermeneutic of continuity with EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages

 The SSPX can now ask Pope Francis to affirm Vatican Council II  just as he had asked it of them, for canonical recognition.With the Five Points ask him to affirm the Council with the hermeneutic of continuity  with EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages. The Council with the hermeneutic of continuity would be in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q) and the Athanasius Creed.The main issue is Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premist. -Lionel Andrades

 DECEMBER 16, 2020

Religious formation in the Catholic Church has changed with these Five Points

 Religious formation in the Catholic Church has changed with these Five Points. -Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 14, 2020

Five points that change our interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents

 

NEW INFORMATION

We  have new information.

1.The hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition depends upon the false premise and not Vatican Council II itself. This must be understood by all. It is  a common mistake.If you refer to the New Theology you also have to refer to the irrational premise.For example when Lumen Gentium 16 refers to a visible case it is a false premise.We know that LG 16 is really always hypothetical and invisible for all at all times.So when LG 16 refers to someone saved outside the Church( a false premise) it is made an objective exception to EENS and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. But LG 16 is never objective for us human beings.It is objective only for God.

2.Irrespective if you are a conservative or liberal Catholic, if you use the false premise there is a rupture with Tradition. So the hermeneutic of rupture is not created by the liberals.This is  important to nore. It does not depend upon a person's philosophical or theological view. Cardinal Ratzinger interpreted LG 16 as an exception to the strict interpretation of EENS, but so did Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Cardinal Walter Kasper.

3.If you are a liberal Catholic and do not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II, you emerge  a conservative or traditionalist Catholic. Since Vatican Council II emerges in harmony with the stict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).It is the false premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It decides if Vatican Council II is traditional or non traditional.

4. If you are an SSPX  traditionalist and you do not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II, you emerge a Feeneyite and not a Cushingite. Presently the SSPX and other traditionalists interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so are Cushingites.

For Fr. Leonard Feeney, extra ecclesiam nulla salus had no exceptions. For Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) were exceptions to EENS.It was only with the false premise that BOD, BOB and I.I became exceptions to EENS for them.

5. So irrespective of the Rite of the Mass, Latin, Novus Ordo or Byzantine, if you interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise you are Traditional. The Council does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of the Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q), the dogma EENS according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine and the Athanasius Creed.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/five-points-that-change-our.html

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DECEMBER 15, 2020

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is not asking Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise -and neither are Pope Benedict and Pope Francis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith.html

DECEMBER 15, 2020

With the FIVE POINTS the Franciscans, Jesuits, Domincans, Carmelites and the other religious communities can change their religious formation of postulants and novices

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/with-five-points-franciscans-jesuits.html

 DECEMBER 15, 2020

Tables are turned. It is the SSPX today which can ask Pope Benedict to affirm Vatican Council II , without the false premise and let there be a hermeneutic of continuity with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine and the Athanasius Creed . This is a 'doctrinal'issue

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/tables-are-turned-it-is-sspx-today.html

DECEMBER 15, 2020

How can a priest who follows Pope Benedict's false New Theology, based upon a false premise offer Holy Mass ? The New Theology creates a rupture with the past Magisterium on de fide teachings of the Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/how-can-priest-who-follows-pope.html

DECEMBER 15, 2020

 I interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise unlike the Prefects of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 , UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only. This is common sense.They cannot be practical exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the Athanasius Creed,the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc. Similarly for me the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I)  are not exceptions to EENS.

Where are the BOD, BOB and I.I cases in real life for them to be exceptions to EENS ? - Lionel Andrades