Saturday, January 9, 2021

Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism. This is great discovery

 Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism. This is great discovery. -Lionel Andrades


 DECEMBER 11, 2019

Repost : Bishop Robert C.Morlino needs to interpret the Catechism with Feeneyism then the laity can do the same in study groups

APRIL 25, 2017

Bishop Robert C.Morlino needs to interpret the Catechism with Feeneyism then the laity can do the same in study groups

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In the diocese of Madison, USA it is Bishop Robert C.Morlino who needs to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church with Feeneyism and then the lay people can do the same in their study groups.1
BISHOP MORLINO USES CUSHINGISM A FALSE THEOLOGY
Today we see the photographs and news about Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI in the mainstream media. It is because they interpret the Catechism with Cushingism. If Bishop Morlino does not do the same and instead uses Feeneyism as an interpretation he would be persona non grata.
ALL LAY STUDY GROUPS HAVE TO USE THE FALSE THEOLOGY IN MADISON
So now based on a false theology -on what is invisible being visible and what is implicit being explicit- the bishop in Madison interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church and every one has to do the same in the diocese.
WITH CUSHINGISM CATECHISM VIOLATES PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION
The priests at Madision offer Mass ad orientem and give the Eucharist on the tongue  and assume CCC 1257 contradicts itself and the Principle of Non Contradiction and they accept this !.The interpretation of CCC 1257 commonly assumes what is visible and known are examples of salvation outside the Church.It is inferred in Madison that they know when 'God is not limited to the Sacraments' and someone will be saved outside the Church.This is Cushingism!
CCC 1257 DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF WITH FEENEYISM
There are no such known people.So CCC 1257  does not contradict  itself or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.This would be Feeneyism!
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So how can Bishop Robert C.Morlino  offer Mass ad orientem and with the theology of Feeneyism?
If he says God the Father wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church, the Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood(CCC 845) this would be the old ecclesiology according to the 16th century magisterium.It would be the Catechism interpreted with Feeneyism.
If he says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church (CCC 846) and this does not contradict the dogma EENS, he would be affirming the old ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.Feeneyism!
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If he says everyone needs the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation (CCC 1257) and the Church knows of no exceptions in 2017 he would be affirming the old ecclesiology on outside the Church there is no salvation.He would be interpreting the Catechism of the Catholic Church with Feeneyism (CCC 1257).
If he says the Patriach of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Primates of the Anglican Church in England are on the way to Hell (CCC 846/Ad Gentes 7( AG 7 is listed in CCC 846),CCC 845, CCC 1257) then the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II would be the same.The ecclesiology would be ecclesiocentric. There would be no rupture with Tradition. This would be Feeneyism.
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Since outside the Church there is no known salvation, and all need to enter the Church in 2017( and not just those who know) there should be no separation of Church and State  for him. Christ should be King  over all political legislation.This would be Feeneyism too.It is the same Catechism but with a different premise and conclusion.
He would be affirming traditional Catholic doctrine, offering the Traditional Latin Mass and not rejecting the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite) or Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
AVOIDS SSPX CUSHINGITE ERROR
Neither would he be a traditionalist like the members of the SSPX who interpret the Catechism and Vatican Council II with Cushingism and then reject the obvious non-traditional conclusion.
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POPE BENEDICT MADE AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE IN MARCH 2016
Bishop Morlino could show  Pope Benedict XVI his error  and ask him to interpret the Catechism and Vatican Council II with Feeneyism, even if the Jewish Left and the Masons do not like it.Ask him to switch to rational and traditional Feeneyism( invisible cases are not visible in 2017, so there are no visible exceptions to traditional EENS as it was known to the 16th century missionaries).
POPE BENEDICT MUST BE SHOWN HIS MISTAKE
Pope Benedict needs to be shown that he made a mistake in March 2016, when in the daily Avvenire , he said extra ecclesiam nulla salus was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.Since there was a development with Vatican Council II ( Vatican Council II Cushingite of course).
NO DEVELOPMENT OF EENS WITH THEOLOGY OF FEENEYISM
With Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite) there is no development of the dogma EENS as it was known in the 16th century.
With the Catechism and Vatican Council II being Feeneyite there is no Anonymous Christian who is saved outside the Catholic Church.
CATECHISM STUDY GROUPS MUST BE ALLOWED TO USE RATIONAL AND TRADITIONAL FEENEYISM
So in the diocese of Madison, USA it is Bishop Robert C.Morlino who needs to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church with Feeneyism and then the lay people can do the same in their study groups.-Lionel Andrades

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APRIL 25, 2017

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Parish priests will not allow the Catechism to be interpreted with the theology of Feeneyism. They could be suspended or transferred.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/parish-priests-will-not-allow-catechism.html


APRIL 24, 2017


Until Fr.Zuhlsdorf or a bishop affirms the Catechism of the Catholic Church with Feeneyism lay Catholics have to affirm the Faith independently and with the opposition of the local Cushingite bishop

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/until-frzuhlsdorf-or-bishop-affirms.html



APRIL 24, 2017


Tracy Rowland, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf and Bishop Morlino in the Diocese of Madison, USA are 'doing theology' with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/tracy-rowland-fr-john-zuhlsdorf-and.html




APRIL 19, 2017

From left, Bavarian Prime Minister Horst Seehofer, Monsignor Georg Gaenswein, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and his brother, Georg, sit on the occasion of a party for Benedict's 90th birthday at the Vatican, April 17, 2017.

Pope Benedict XVI at 90 : theological deception and compromise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/pope-benedict-xvi-at-90-theological.htm
 
 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/04/bishop-robert-cmorlino-needs-to.html

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2019
APRIL 3, 2014
There is no text in Vatican Council II which contradicts Feeneyism
Feeneyism is the official teaching of the Catholic Church unless one assumes implicit for us baptism of desire is explicit for us.
According to Feeneyism  every one needs to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism' and there are no exceptions.
According to Feeneyism  the baptism of desire is not an exception to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
According to Cushingism  every one does not need to enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism  in 2014 and there are exceptions.
According to Cushingism  the baptism of desire is an exception to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
According to Feeneyism Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) is not an exception to Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism)  and the dogma on exclusive salvation. Vatican Council II is not confusing.
According to Cushingism Lumen Gentium 16  is an exception.Vatican Council II contradicts itself.
Feeneyism says there are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Cushingism says there are exceptions. Cushingism is heresy.
The Society of St.Pius X, Fischer More College and other traditionalists  have been using Cushingism. For liberals Cushingism is the basis for liberalism  and dissent with reference to Vatican Council II.
Vatican Council II  and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949  of Pope Pius XII, in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission, are interpreted according to Cushingism. The ITC papers were approved by Pope Benedict XVI.
Pope Francis expects the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II according to Cushingism, only then will they be allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass in Rome.
The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate  could end the dead lock by announcing that they interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents  according to Feeneyism. So they affirm Vatican Council II and Tradition ( the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Catechism of Pope Pius X, the Syllabus of Errors etc).
Similarly Michael King, the President of Fischer-More College, USA  could announce that they affirm Vatican Council II according to Feeneyism . He can ask Bishop Michael Olson, the bishop of Fort Worth, and the FSSP priests there, to also do the same.
The SSPX could clarify that in a discussion on the subject of the baptism of desire, there could be confusion over invisible for us  baptism of desire and visible to us  baptism of desire and that invisible for us  baptism of desire, is their rational choice.
They also need to point out the factual error on the website of the International Theological Commission. The same error is there on the SSPX website under the subject Feeneyism. The SSPX is critical of Feeneyism since for the SSPX, Feeneyism  refers to the rejection of explicit for us baptism of desire.
-Lionel Andrades

Photo: Fr.Leonard Feeney- now at the centre of two  interpretations of Vatican Council II.

http://www.marymediatrix.com/religious-life/friars.html

MONDAY, JULY 2, 2018

Repost : There is no text in Vatican Council II which contradicts Feeneyism

 APRIL 3, 2014

There is no text in Vatican Council II which contradicts Feeneyism

Feeneyism is the official teaching of the Catholic Church unless one assumes implicit for us baptism of desire is explicit for us.


According to Feeneyism  every one needs to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism' and there are no exceptions.
 
According to Feeneyism  the baptism of desire is not an exception to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
According to Cushingism  every one does not need to enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism  in 2014 and there are exceptions.
 
According to Cushingism  the baptism of desire is an exception to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
 
According to Feeneyism Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) is not an exception to Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism)  and the dogma on exclusive salvation. Vatican Council II is not confusing.
 
According to Cushingism Lumen Gentium 16  is an exception.Vatican Council II contradicts itself.
 
Feeneyism says there are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Cushingism says there are exceptions. Cushingism is heresy.
 
The Society of St.Pius X, Fischer More College and other traditionalists  have been using Cushingism. For liberals Cushingism is the basis for liberalism  and dissent with reference to Vatican Council II.
 
Vatican Council II  and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949  of Pope Pius XII, in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission, are interpreted according to Cushingism. The ITC papers were approved by Pope Benedict XVI.
 
Pope Francis expects the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II according to Cushingism, only then will they be allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass in Rome.
The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate  could end the dead lock by announcing that they interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents  according to Feeneyism. So they affirm Vatican Council II and Tradition ( the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Catechism of Pope Pius X, the Syllabus of Errors etc).
 
Similarly Michael King, the President of Fischer-More College, USA  could announce that they affirm Vatican Council II according to Feeneyism . He can ask Bishop Michael Olson, the bishop of Fort Worth, and the FSSP priests there, to also do the same.
 
The SSPX could clarify that in a discussion on the subject of the baptism of desire, there could be confusion over invisible for us  baptism of desire and visible to us  baptism of desire and that invisible for us  baptism of desire, is their rational choice.
 
They also need to point out the factual error on the website of the International Theological Commission. The same error is there on the SSPX website under the subject Feeneyism. The SSPX is critical of Feeneyism since for the SSPX, Feeneyism  refers to the rejection of explicit for us baptism of desire.
-Lionel Andrades

Photo: Fr.Leonard Feeney- now at the centre of two  interpretations of Vatican Council II.

http://www.marymediatrix.com/religious-life/friars.html

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2018

In general the SSPX interprets Magisterial documents as a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors) unlike me and yet they keep saying that they follow Tradition : comunique false

Today, more than ever, the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X renews its attachment to the Church’s two thousand years of Tradition, convinced that this fidelity, far from being an outdated rigidness, provides the salutary remedy for the self-destruction of the Church.-Comunique of the General House of the SSPX on the Canonisation of Pope Paul VI
This is false.
'The Priestly Society of Saint Pius X renews its attachment to the Church's two thousand years of Tradition'.

The SSPX interprets the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) with what I call Cushingism, instead of Feeneyism.
They interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism. They reject the Council(Cushingite) but do not interpret it with Feeneyism.
I affirm BOD,BOB and I.I with Feeneyism. I also affirm Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. I follow Tradition.
The SSPX interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with Cushingism. I use traditional Feeneyite philosophy.For me EENS is Feeneyite .
So on the SSPX offical website BOD, BOB and I.I being explicit, become exceptions to the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite). For me BOD,BOB and I.I being implicit are not an exception or relevant to EENS ( Feeneyite).
Since BOD, BOB and I.I are implicit, as are LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not a rupture with EENS ( Feeneyite) for me.The SSPX does not seem to have any concept of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
Since BOD, BOB and I.I refer to explicit non Catholics saved outside the Church, without the baptism of water, there are now two interpretations of the Nicene Creed.There's and mine. One is Cushingite and the other Feeneyite. For them it is ,'I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water, they are the baptisms of desire,blood, invincible ignorance etc'.For me it is 'I believe in one(known) baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.
They interpret all the Catechisms with Cushingism and I do so with Feeneyism. So the Catechisms must be an exception to EENS ( Feeneyite) and the past exclusivist ecclesiology for them. Not for me.
So when the Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions invincible ignorance, for example,  the SSPX reads it with Cushingite lens. The Catechism of Pope Pius X would then contradict Feeneyite EENS, the Syllabus of Errors( Feeneyite) and the past excluvist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
Since BOD, BOB and I.I and UR 3 refer to objective non Catholics saved outside the Church, Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with an ecumenism of return. Also BOD, BOB and I.I becomes a rupture with Feeneyite EENS on ecumenism.
In general the SSPX interprets Magisterial documents as a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors) unlike me and yet they keep saying that they follow Tradition.








NOVEMBER 8, 2018

SSPX Rector at St. Thonas Aquinas seminary USA seems to agree that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, interpreted the Catechism of Pope Pius X as a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/in-general-sspx-interprets-magisterial.html 
https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/communiqu%C3%A9-general-house-sspx-canonisation-pope-paul-vi-41188







SATURDAY, JUNE 22, 2019

Repost : I am referring to Feeneyism and Cushingism as explained on my blog.The fault does not lie with Vatican Council II in itself. It depends upon how you interpret the Council, whether you use Cushingism or Feeneyism. Cushingism results in the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.

 FEBRUARY 19, 2018

I am referring to Feeneyism and Cushingism as explained on my blog.The fault does not lie with Vatican Council II in itself. It depends upon how you interpret the Council, whether you use Cushingism or Feeneyism. Cushingism results in the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.

I am referring to Feeneyism and Cushingism as explained on my blog.
I am not referring to Fr. Leonard Feeney and Cardinal Cushing in particular.
I use their names since it has meaning for me. However any other name could have been used.
Feeneyism refers to accepting hypothetical cases as just being hypothetical. Invisible people are simply called invisible.
Cushingism refers to hypothetical cases being concrete and known people in the present times.
So with Feeneyism BOD, BOB and I.I are hypothetical cases only. So they cannot be exceptions to EENS.
With Cushingism BOD,BOB and I.I are not hypothetical and are assumed to be visible people saved outside the Church
and so they become exceptions to EENS.
Similarly with Feeneyism LG 16, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2 ,GS 22 refer to hypothetical cases, invisble people in 2018. So there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict EENS.
With Cushingism LG 16, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 refer to real people saved outside the Church and so Vatican Council II is a rupture with the dogma EENS.
So the fault does not lie with Vatican Council II in itself. It depends upon how you interpret the Council, whether you use Cushingism orFeeneyism.
Cushingism results in the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
The liberals and traditionalists interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism.
The St. Benedict Centers interpret EENS withFeeneyism but Vatican Council II with Cushingism.-Lionel Andrades

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