Without the false premise used in the interpretation of Vatican Council II there is no 'spirit of Vatican Council II'. There is no liberalism.Since without the false premise the Council is traditional.

 Without the false premise used in the interpretation of Vatican Council II there is no 'spirit of Vatican Council II'. There is no liberalism.Since without the false premise the Council is traditional.With a traditional Council, religious liberty and collegiality are traditional.The Council is Feeneyite( invisible cases are not objective).The Council is 'triumphalistic'.Non Catholics are outside the Church(AG 7). They need faith and the baptism of water for salvation (AG 7).While LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not objective exceptions in 1965-2021 to Ad Gentes 7 or 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 are hypothetical cases is the rational premise.

So there is nothing in the entire text of Lumen Gentium, for example, to contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.

There is nothing in the entire text of Unitatis Redintigratio, the Decree on Ecumenism in Vatican Council II, to contradict the past ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church.

There is nothing in the entire text of Ad Gentes to contradict the past traditional Mission and the need for all to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church, for salvation, with no known exceptions. - Lionel Andrades

Fake premise

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

Rational Premise

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/there-is-no-denial-from-congregation.html   

Lionel Andrades

Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.

Catholic lay man in Rome,

Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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