The Una Voce International official statement on Traditionis Custode continues to reject Tradition and promotes the Latin Mass with the new ecclesiology like the liberal bishops in England. So they are probably wondering why is the Latin Mass banned.

The Una Voce International official statement on Traditionis Custode continues to reject Tradition and promotes the Latin Mass with the new ecclesiology like the liberal bishops in England. So they are probably wondering why is the Latin Mass banned.

Una Voce and the Latin Mass Societies faithfully reject Tradidition when they interpret Vatican Council II, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and other Creeds, with a false premise, inference and conclusion. In this way a politically correct rupture is created with Catholic Tradition.There is a break with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.They are part of the parallel Church.

 

FAKE PREMISE OF UNA VOCE INTERNATIONAL

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

 

FAKE INFERENCE OF OF UNA VOCE INTERNATIONAL

They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

 

FAKE CONCLUSION OF OF UNA VOCE INTERNATIONAL

Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed (outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

 

RATIONAL PREMISE OF LIONEL ANDRADES

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

 

RATIONAL INFERENCE OF LIONEL ANDRADES

They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

 

RATIONAL CONCLUSION OF LIONEL ANDRADES

Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake it used the false premise, inference and conclusion.

TWO COLUMN APPROACH

Would you interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side or left hand side column?

 

LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN - RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN

All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:

implicit               or  explicit for us.

hypothetical          or  known in reality.

invisible               or  visible in the flesh.

dejure ( in principle)  or defacto ( in fact ).

subjective             or objective.

So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.

If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2021 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead-saved are visible.

If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition, on other religions and Christian communities and churches.How can invisible cases be exceptions to EENS?

Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.I am an exception. I use the left hand side column.

The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were never ever an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There are no personally known exceptions to EENS in 2021.If any one was saved outside the Church it would only be known to God.So when we meet a non Catholic we know that he is oriented to Hell.Since the norm for salvation is faith and the baptism of water.We cannot judge any one as being as exception to the norm.There is no extra ordinary way of salvation known to us humans, in real life.

So we can see that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II. For them to be Magisterial they would have to avoid the false premise and use the rational premise, inference and conclusion, like the popes did over the centuries. -Lionel Andrades

JULY 20, 2021

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