Tuesday, August 10, 2021

Archbishop Vigano interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise like the Lefebvrists, liberals and present two popes

 He makes it clear that the Tridentine Mass is a superior rite in comparison to the Novus Ordo Mass and says that these two rites represent two different churches, thus negating the idea that there is a continuity between the Church before and after the Second Vatican Council. “Francis has once again disavowed the pious illusion of the hermeneutic of continuity, stating that the coexistence of the Vetus and Novus Ordo is impossible because they are expressions of two irreconcilable doctrinal and ecclesiological approaches,” the Italian prelate states.

Pointing out the differences between these two rites, he adds: “on the one hand there is the Apostolic Mass, the voice of the Church of Christ; on the other there is the Montinian ‘Eucharistic celebration,’ the voice of the conciliar church.”-Maike Hickson

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/archbishop-vigano-on-what-priests-should-do-in-light-of-traditionis-custodes/


He makes it clear that the Tridentine Mass is a superior rite in comparison to the Novus Ordo Mass and says that these two rites represent two different churches, thus negating the idea that there is a continuity between the Church before and after the Second Vatican Council.

Lionel: He interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms with a false premise to create a false rupture with Tradition. The traditionalists and Pope Francis do the same.However Pope Francis correctly does not say that one Mass is superior to another.

There is a continuity with the Church before and after Vatican Council II when the false premise is replaced with the rational premise. The Church returns to Tradition. There is no more a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.

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ointing out the differences between these two rites, he adds: “on the one hand there is the Apostolic Mass, the voice of the Church of Christ; on the other there is the Montinian ‘Eucharistic celebration,’ the voice of the conciliar church.”

Lionel : I attend Mass in Latin and Italian and there is a continuity for me with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. This is not affirmed by the Lefebvrist traditionalists.

For example, I affirm the dogma EENS with no exceptions, the Syllabus of Errors with no exceptions and the Athanasius Creed with no exceptions.For the Lefebvrists there are exceptions. They assume, for example that unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are known exceptions to 16th century EENS. This is irrational. It is heretical and schismatic but this is also how the liberals and Pope Francis interpret Magisterial documents.

So the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass which they offer/attend today is the same as the new ecclesiology at the Novus Ordo Mass. In both cases it is created with the false premise.-Lionel Andrades


Archbishop Viganò on what priests should do in light of Traditionis Custodes

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/archbishop-vigano-on-what-priests-should-do-in-light-of-traditionis-custodes/







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