Vatican Council II is dogmatic for me since it does not contradict EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.I choose the Rational Premise.Invisible people are always invisible in 2021.

 

I interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as not being exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) since  LG 8 etc are always hypothetical and theoretical only  in 2021. Most people interpret them as being exceptions to EENS. This is how the popes interpret them.So they wrongly imply that these are not visible cases.They are visible and known people for you.Otherwise how could they be exceptions for EENS ?

So we have two interpretations of Vatican Council II, yours and mine.

In the same way we have two interpretations of EENS, one is with visible cases of the baptism of desire and the other is without it.

It is the same with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.

For you 29 Q ( invincible ignorance) of the Catechism of Pope Pius X would contradict 24Q and 27 Q (outside the Church no salvation ) but not for me.It is the same for the Catechism of the Catholic Church n.846, 1257.( See the links at the right hand bar).

Those who project the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being exceptions for EENS, I call Cushingites.

Those who project them as not being exceptions I call Feeneyites.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was a Cushingite and so Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus are Cushingite. He read Vatican Council II with the False Premise.

But I can read Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and so I can re-read Dominus Iesus etc rationally  with the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

Vatican Council II is dogmatic for me since it does not contradict EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.I choose the Rational Premise.Invisible people are always invisible in 2021.

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome,

Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?Vatican Council II.

Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

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