The Ecclesia Dei communities which met at Courtlain, France are still not telling Pope Francis that if he interprets LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II rationally, then he would be a traditionalist like them. He would have returned to Catholic Tradition overnight.

 

The Ecclesia Dei communities which met at Courtlain, France are still not telling Pope Francis that if he interprets LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II rationally, then he would be a traditionalist like them. He would have returned to Catholic Tradition overnight.

The Ecclesia Dei communities have still not said that Pope Francis used a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II, in Traditionis Custode.

The Ecclesia Dei communities are allowing the French bishops, in the main line Church,  to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so reject Tradition.

Brother Andre Marie micm, and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Hampshire, USA are traditionalists. They affirm Vatican Council II rationally. For them LG 8,14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to hypothetical and speculative cases only. So Vatican Council II does not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as held by the Church Fathers and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. The popes and saints interpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being invisible cases. This is common sense. - Lionel Andrades