Pope Francis is not announcing that the polygamy of the Synod is a mortal sin like adultery and that Sister Nathalie Bequart interprets Vatican Council II schismatically and dishonestly. It is not Magisterial when she and Pope Francis interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being explicit and not implicit, visible and not invisible cases in 1965-2023.They both contradict common sense.

 

Pope Francis is not announcing that the  polygamy of the Synod is a mortal sin like adultery and that Sister Nathalie Bequart interprets Vatican Council II schismatically and dishonestly. It is not Magisterial when she and Pope Francis interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being explicit and not implicit, visible and not invisible cases in 1965-2023.So they both contradict common sense. They also contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction when they confuse something invisible as being physically visible in the present times.How can we see someone in Heaven and on earth at the same time?

How can we physically see alleged non Catholics, saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire (LG 14) or in invincible ignorance (LG 16), who are now in Heaven but also visible to the both of them, on earth? They are visible in Heaven and on earth at the same time to the both of them? So invisible cases of LG 14 and LG 16 are practically visible for them and so are objective examples of salvation outside the Church. They then become objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215)? So there is a new theology for them. It says outside the Church there is known salvation in the present times (1965-2023).

Who among us has seen or met someone saved in imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3)?

Who among us has seen someone saved outside the visible boundaries of the Church, where the Catholic Church ‘subsists’?

Who among us knows of a Catholic who has been saved in another religion where ‘the seeds of the Word lie hidden’ (AG 11) ? No one. There are no such cases in our human reality.

If someone is saved with that ‘ray of truth’ which enlightens all men (NA 2) it can only be known to God. The norm for salvation is Catholic faith and the baptism of water (AG 7, LG 14).

So Sister Bequart cannot confuse what is invisible as being visible, implicit as being explicit, subjective as being objective and then say that the Council is non-traditional and so polygamy can be approved and so also, LGBT sexual relations. - Lionel Andrades

 MAY 3, 2023

We are in schism.

 

We are in schism. There is a schism from the Left. They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a break with the Magisterial Church. It is a fake break with Tradition. It is approved by the popes from Paul VI who interpret the Council with a fake premise and inference. This interpretation is different from those of us who interpret Vatican Council II rationally and honestly.

Since the popes support the schism in faith and morals, doctrine and theology the mainline Church follows this error.

How can we have a pope who intentionally interprets the Council irrationally while so many of interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so honestly?

Interpreting the Council irrationally even after being informed is public heresy. It is a disqualification as a pope.

Interpreting the Council irrationally changes the meaning of the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms. This is public schism. It is schism, a break with the past Magisterium and a rejection of Catholic Canon Law.

The Judges at the Vatican Supreme Tribunal are also expected to be honest and to inform the pope of his error.

Cardinals and bishops are obliged morally to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and to inform the pope of his error.

Pope Francis must make the correction in public. It could mean that cardinals like Kasper, Koch and Nichols may not want to remain in the Catholic Church any more. Since it will demand a big change in their style, even maybe actual martyrdom.

We now know that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and the conclusion is traditional. So Pope Francis, can no more cite Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally, to justify his liberalism and innovation, supporting mortal sins of faith and morals, in public.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/we-are-in-schism.html

AY 3, 2023

Polygamy is adultery for Catholics and is a mortal sin which takes a soul to Hell. Even LGBT sexual relations are a mortal sin. Sister Nathalie Bequart, Consultant, to the Synod for the Vatican, is in schism.

 

Polygamy is adultery for Catholics and is a mortal sin which takes a soul to Hell. Even LGBT sexual relations are a mortal sin. Sister Nathalie Bequart, Consultant, to the Synod for the Vatican, is in schism. When she interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. In this way she changes the original understanding of the Nicene Creed, rejects the Athanasius Creed, re-interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as having exceptions, changes the meaning of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance mentioned in the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.

The Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX is made obsolete with this ruse.

Bequart is a public modernist supporting public mortal sin at the Synods along with Cardinal Greco who has come out of nowhere to be made a cardinal.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church indicates that Pope Francis and the Synod support scandal and mortal sin.

Also divorce and re-marriage are mortal sins which cannot be justified with Vatican Council II, interpreted only schismatically. The pope has an obligation to interpret the Council only rationally. This is being honest and not dishonest.

George Melloni and Matteo Salvini who have been living in sin are not correcting Pope Francis and ending the non separation of the Catholic Church and the Leftist State, which they represent. - Lionel Andrades

APRIL 30, 2023

Pope Francis supports public heresy and schism when he does not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally in harmony with the past Magisterium. It is not Magisterial when Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly. He must correct the mistake in public. Also when the Synod interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly, it is schism. It is schism with the Magisterium over the centuries.

 

When the Synod supports polygamy and adultery it is a mortal sin. It is schism with the Magisterium over the centuries. But also when the Synod interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly, it is schism. It is schism with the Magisterium over the centuries. Since it changes the original interpretation of the Nicene Creed and rejects the Athanasius Creed. There are false interpretations of the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.

There is a new interpretation of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. It changes the understanding of Magisterial Documents, Creeds and Catechisms. It makes the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, obsolete.

This is the present official and public heresy of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. It has been the political position on doctrine and theology for the popes from Paul VI to Francis. This is papal schism.

We now know that the norm is the rational interpretation of the baptism of desire (LG 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16).

The norm is a rational interpretation of BOD and I.I when they are mentioned in the Catechisms of Trent ( BOD) and Pius X ( I.I) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 847-848-invincible ignorance).

We now know that the norm is the rational interpretation of Vatican Council II (LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, and NA 2, GS 22 etc).

So Sister Nathalie Bequart, Consultant to the Vatican on the Synod, is in schism when she says that the doctrines of the Synod are based upon Vatican Council II- and means only Vatican Council II irrational and not rational.

Cardinal Hollerich and Cardinal Greco are in schism when they do not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.

Pope Francis supports public heresy and schism when he does not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally in harmony with the past Magisterium.

It is not Magisterial when Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and dishonestly. He must correct the mistake in public.  -Lionel Andrades

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APRIL 29, 2023

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally and ethically it is Magisterial. It is not political. So when Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster, England, and the English bishops, rectors and seminarians interpret Vatican Council II politically and unethically, they are in schism.

 

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally and ethically it is Magisterial. It is not political. So when Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster, England, and the English bishops, rectors and seminarians interpret Vatican Council II politically and unethically, they are in schism.

They are choosing heresy to please the Jewish Left. They want a rupture with Tradition when there is no rupture.

So they intentionally choose schism and are supported by Pope Francis.

It is the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, which is in official schism when they do not interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ethically, like those of us who do so.

Cardinal Nichols chooses to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and schismatically and this way the liberalism remains in the Church.

Cardinal Nichols will not tell Catholics in Britain to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, ethically and non schismatically, for then the Church will be affirming exclusive salvation, the Church will return to orthodoxy.

With the rational premise and inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II:

1)         There will be no exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the text of Vatican Council II.

2)       Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes 7 would support the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on EENS with no known exceptions.

So if the pope tomorrow interprets Vatican Council II rationally, ethically and non schismatically, Cardinal Nichols and the British bishops and cardinals will choose the prevailing schism.They could break away from the Church.

When Pope Benedict and Fr. Federico Lombardi sj, initially supported Bishop Richard Williamson , the English ecclesiastics and laity supported the Jewish Left and not the Catholic bishop from England. This was their priority in public. Now if the CDF asks them to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, they will  reject the CDF and support the Left.

Since we know that we can interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ethically Cardinal Nichols is already in schism. He is dishonest for political reasons.  - Lionel Andrades

THESE ARE INVISIBLE CASES FOR ME BUT PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES FOR THE BRITISH CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THEY HAVE TO BE VISIBLE FOR THEM.IT IS ONLY IN THIS IRRATIONAL WAY THAT THEY CAN BE EXCEPTIONS FOR EENS AND THE PAST ECCLESIOCENTRIS ECCLESIOLOGY.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 

VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS

THESE ARE VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THIS IS AN ERROR.THE ERROR IS NOT MAGISTERIAL.

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO VISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH FOR THE POPES FROM PAUL VI TO FRANCIS. THEY ARE OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED..THIS IS AN OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC ERROR OF THE CDF.

POPE FRANCIS IS NOT MAGISTERIAL ON

 

VATICAN COUNCIL II AT PRESENT.

 

 

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 THERE IS EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THE BRITISH CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.VATICAN COUNCIL II HAS EXCEPTIONS FOR EENS FOR THEM BUT NOT FOR ME.IF THERE WERE NO EXCEPTIONS POPE FRANCIS AND THE LEFT WOULD ACCUSE THEM OF BEING 'TRIUMPHALISTIC'.

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846

845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of the Catholic Church

 846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…

 Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.-Athanasius Creed

 Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one  universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."

So the British cardinals and bishops wrongly confuse invisible cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Church and visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition. So EENS is made obsolete with this ruse.There is no controversy with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the Zionists. They  maintain 'good relations with the Jewish Left'.

- Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/when-vatican-council-ii-is-interpreted.html