Monday, July 17, 2023

Franciscans of the Immaculate seminary in Rome- windows open and cleaned, furniture removed

 


 


The seminary of the Franciscans of the Immaculate at Casalotti, Boccea has its windows open. The furniture within is removed. It is placed outside the seminary. It is the same for the old church, which recently celebrated its 50 years. It has been in the possession of the Comitato dell Immaculata.

The wild bushes and other trees in front of the church have been removed.

This is the seminary Pope Francis closed in 2013, prohibited the Latin Mass and banned the lay Third Order of the community.The founder of the community Fr. Stefano Manelli ffi was removed by Pope Francis and replaced by Fr. Fidenzio Volpi.

Since then it is discovered that there is a Vatican Council II, Feeneyite and Cushingite, rational and irrational, with the hermeneutic of continuity or rupture and that Pope Francis has chosen the wrong option.

The Council morally, can only be Feeneyite. It has to be rational and so traditional. It has the hermeneutic of continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence.

So Vatican Council II, rational, traditional and Feeneyite is not a rupture with the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal and the traditional lex orandi.


The Council only supports the Roman Missal at every Mass and in all Rites . It is a return to the ecclesiology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Tridentine Rite Mass.

Even the Novus Ordo Mass can now only be offered with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, by the popes, cardinals and bishops.

When Pope Francis closed the seminary he wanted the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II, Cushingite. They refused. Cushingism is heretical and schismatic. It is unethical.

Pope Francis continued to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and with this error issued Amoris Laetitia, Traditionis Custode, the Abu Dhabi Declaration etc.

Now the Franciscans of the Immaculate can affirm Vatican Council II, Feeneyite, along with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Feeneyite. They are compatible. The Council does not contradict the past ecclesiocentrism, there are no practical exceptions mentioned in the text of the Council for EENS.

So it is the liberals and Pope Francis who are in difficulty. Since they have to affirm a dishonest interpretation of Vatican Council II and the people know that they have a rational option which is traditional.

All the cardinal-electors for the next pope are expected to be honest and to interpret Vatican Council II, rationally. So the next pope and the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, must accept Vatican Council II, Feeneyite only. This is morally obligatory.The DDF must interpret the Council only rationally and ask all the cardinals, the universities, the embassies, those participating in inter-religious dialogues and non Christian organisations to do the same. 


-Lionel Andrades




Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate Seminary: Closed by Order of Pope Francis.

3 feb 2015
RORATE EXCLUSIVE (video courtesy of Rorate Caeli Blog Spot) Video of Franciscans of the Immaculate Seminary the day it was shuttered by Commissioner Volpi When will the mainstream media demand answers? On December 8, 2013, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, the Theological Seminary of the Immaculate Mediatrix (STIM) of the Franciscans of the Immaculate (FI) was closed by their Apostolic Commissioner, Fr. Fidenzio Volpi. On the same day, one of the friars filmed the entire day, which presents, along with additional footage, the way of life in that same seminary. Volpi meets with Pope Francis the day the seminary was closed. This footage was then kept in secret, witness of something no longer tolerable to those in power, unseen until now. In this Year of the Consecrated Life, on the Feast of the Purification, which is seen as the Feast of the Consecrated Life, Rorate has obtained this video exclusively, making public a contradiction that has been hidden up to now for the safety of those involved. With all the problems and scandals in the religious life in our times, which seem to be deemed praiseworthy by the highest authorities, what you'll see in this video is what they find so unacceptable, so horrific, so dangerous that it had to be stomped out and crushed as "specifically ordered by the Vicar of Christ," Pope Francis. Punishment and suppression -- and with no trial. But perhaps our Lady, on her feastday, is offering a vision very different to that which seems to dominate presently in the Church -- a vision of the consecrated life which is, as Simeon says of Christ, a sign of contradiction. A great number of the friars seen in this film have had to flee after the closing of the seminary, having found themselves in a new atmosphere of doctrinal corruption and moral relaxation, of the disintegration of the religious observance they had avowed themselves to maintain on pain of grave sin. We say "flee" because it's true. We hear from numerous FI saying how they are in danger, how another Friar they know will speak with us "once they're safe" meaning in a new diocese with a friendly bishop. You'd think they were fleeing 16th Century England and the Tower -- but this form of priest hunting is so much more dangerous as it comes from within. Watch the video. Spread it far and wide. And pray to our Lady today to make good of this nightmare and grant these good men peace at last. Note: the music in this film is sung by the former STIM seminarians. Source link to Rorate Caeli: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015..._________________________________________

, MAY 6, 2023

The new Administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate are not affirming the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and neither are they interpreting LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, rationally.

 


The new Administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate are not affirming the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and neither are they interpreting LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, rationally. For then, with the rational interpretation,  Vatican Council II will not be a rupture with traditional exclusivist EENS. It would mean they support Feeneyite EENS.There is a continuity with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

So they do not want to support Feeneyite EENS and the Councils of 1215 and 1442. They do not want to affirm EENS like the popes and missionaries of the 16th century. They want a theological rupture with the ecclesiology of St. Francis of Assisi, St. Bonaventure, St. Anthony of Padua, Duns Scotus and St. Maximillian Kolbe.

This is a canonical issue. There is no comment of denial from them. This is the approved position of the Jewish Left and Masons and so also that of Pope Francis.

But it means they are re-interpreting the Nicene Creed heretically, they have to reject the Athanasius Creed and produce new versions of the Catechisms. This is a different faith. It cannot be approved by Canon Law.

When Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II irrationally like them it is not Magisterial. He has a rational and traditional option. This is schism with the past Magisterium and a scandal.They want Fr. Stefano Manellli ffi and the whole community to follow this error.

- Lionel Andrades


 APRIL 26, 2023

This is the moral thing to do

 FFI NEW ADMINISTRATION INTERPRETS  VATICAN COUNCIL II           IRRATIONALLY

The seminary and old Church of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, in Boccea, Rome of Fr. Stefano Mannelli ffi., is not being opened since legally the Vatican and the Left, want the Latin-group, to accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally. They themselves, the ecclesiastical hierarchy, will not interpret the Council rationally. This is a legal issue.

The Franciscans of the Immaculate must challenge the election of the new administration which interprets Vatican dishonestly. Why must the whole community, men and women religious, interpret the Council irrationally and unethically?

They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally even after being informed. They are doing in intentionally.

So they also change the understanding of the Nicene Creed, the Athanasius Creed and the Catechisms. This is not the Catholic Faith.

The seminary and old church are closed because Fr. Stefano Mannelli fi and the Comitato dell Immaculata will not accept Vatican Council II interpreted dishonestly.

ALL RELGIOUS COMMUNITIES MUST INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY.

All religious communities (Carmelites, Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits etc) must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is being honest. This would be legal. Both groups of the FFI must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. Vatican Council II (irrational) brings division into the Catholic Church. It is dishonest.

The Comitato dell Immaculata must not hand over the old seminary and church to any religious group, which does not interpret Vatican Council II rationally.

Now the Novus Ordo Mass is being offered by Fr. Bruno Afonso and the new administration at different churches and parishes and no one objects.Why is Mass offered in Italian by the FFI priests, who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, instead of rationally at the church, for example, at the Annunziata at Lungotevere, near the Vatican ? Here lives Fr. Giuseppe Grioni fi, the former Parish Priest of the FFI at the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, where the FFI seminary is located. Other priests live here who are approved by the new administration. Can they interpret the Council rationally and live there at this church and offer Mass in Italian?

Now with Vatican Council II (irrational) these priests are also supporting the Synod with all its innovation and liberalism.

FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF THE IMMACULATE.

At Casino, Italy, Mass is offered by FFI priests who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and even the religious sisters, attend Mass, do the same. The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate must announce that they will only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is the moral thing to do.

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have to live and work under a new administration, which interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and unethically. This is immoral.

The Council must only be interpreted rationally. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc must refer to hypothetical cases only. This is a given. This is common sense. This is how the Franciscans of the Immaculate Sisters too must interpret the Council and ask the new administration to do the same. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/the-new-administration-of-franciscans.html

APRIL 26, 2023

This is the moral thing to do

 FFI NEW ADMINISTRATION INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II           IRRATINALLY

The seminary and old Church of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, in Boccea, Rome of Fr. Stefano Mannelli ffi., is not being opened since legally the Vatican and the Left, want the Latin-group, to accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally. They themselves, the ecclesiastical hierarchy, will not interpret the Council rationally. This is a legal issue.

The Franciscans of the Immaculate must challenge the election of the new administration which interprets Vatican dishonestly. Why must the whole community, men and women religious, interpret the Council irrationally and unethically?

They are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally even after being informed. They are doing in intentionally.

So they also change the understanding of the Nicene Creed, the Athanasius Creed and the Catechisms. This is not the Catholic Faith.

The seminary and old church are closed because Fr. Stefano Mannelli fi and the Comitato dell Immaculata will not accept Vatican Council II interpreted dishonestly.

ALL RELGIOUS COMMUNITIES MUST INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY.

All religious communities (Carmelites, Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits etc) must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is being honest. This would be legal. Both groups of the FFI must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. Vatican Council II (irrational) brings division into the Catholic Church. It is dishonest.

The Comitato dell Immaculata must not hand over the old seminary and church to any religious group, which does not interpret Vatican Council II rationally.

Now the Novus Ordo Mass is being offered by Fr. Bruno Afonso and the new administration at different churches and parishes and no one objects.Why is Mass offered in Italian by the FFI priests, who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, instead of rationally at the church, for example, at the Annunziata at Lungotevere, near the Vatican ? Here lives Fr. Giuseppe Grioni fi, the former Parish Priest of the FFI at the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, where the FFI seminary is located. Other priests live here who are approved by the new administration. Can they interpret the Council rationally and live there at this church and offer Mass in Italian?

Now with Vatican Council II (irrational) these priests are also supporting the Synod with all its innovation and liberalism.

FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF THE IMMACULATE.

At Casino, Italy, Mass is offered by FFI priests who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and even the religious sisters, attend Mass, do the same. The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate must announce that they will only interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is the moral thing to do.

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have to live and work under a new administration, which interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and unethically. This is immoral.

The Council must only be interpreted rationally. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc must refer to hypothetical cases only. This is a given. This is common sense. This is how the Franciscans of the Immaculate Sisters too must interpret the Council and ask the new administration to do the same. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-seminary-and-old-church-of.html

 APRIL 26, 2023

Franciscans of the Immaculate : the issue is no more the Latin Mass

 There is no more a Commissar for the Franciscans of the Immaculate. The priests who make up the new administration reject Tradition by accepting Vatican Council II interpreted only irrationally. The founder of the community Fr. Stefano Manelli fi has been set aside since he rejects Vatican Council II interpreted ir-rationally.

The new administration needs to affirm Vatican Council II (rational) and ask Cardinal Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, the former Commissar, to do the same.

When they interpret Vatican Council II rationally then they could be expelled. For then they would be affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no known exceptions. The Jewish Left and the Vatican did not accept this when it was done by the SSPX General Statement 2012. Morally this is the thing to do for a Catholic - interpret the Council rationally.

So the issue now is no more the Latin Mass.Since if the FFI accepted Vatican Council II ( irrational) they could be allowed to offer the Latin Mass as in the case of the FSSP, ICKTKGS etc.

The issue is :is Vatican Council II interpreted with a rational or irrational premise. If those who offer the Novus Ordo Mass interpret the Council in harmony with the Council of Florence (1442) they will be expelled. But this is the right thing to do for a Catholic.  -Lionel Andrades

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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/franciscans-of-immaculate-issue-is-no.html



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