No pope, cardinal, bishop or priest must change the interpretation of the Nicene Creed and reject the Athanasius Creed. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem). There are restrictions on offering Holy Mass

 

from Rorate Caeli ( with comments)

The appointment of the new prefect of the congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith — by Roberto de Mattei

Roberto de Mattei

July 5, 2023

As regards the Mass una cum Bergoglio, the lawyer Patruno gives a good explanation of the passage of St Thomas, often quoted inappropriately, according to which anyone sins who hears Mass or receives the sacraments from heretical, schismatic or excommunicated ministers (Summa Theologiae, III, q.82, a.9).

Lionel: Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II irrationally like the cardinals, bishops, priests and the Lefebvrists.They also interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, irrationally, like the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney. So the understanding of the Nicene Creed is changed and the Athanasius Creed is rejected outright.

In this condition the religious offer Holy Mass.

Roberto dei Mattei also makes the same mistake and does not deny it.He attends Mass in this condition.

 The passage refers to heretics, schismatics and the excommunicated who are deprived of the exercise of their powers by a sentence of the Church. Until this definitive pronouncement has been made, one may to go to Mass and receive the sacraments from priests subjectively considered heretical, etc. Communicatio in sacris with heretics is illicit when a sentence of the Church has declared them as such, but until that moment it is licit to receive communion from them and hear their Mass.

Lionel: Any pope, cardinal, bishop or priest who interprets Vatican Council II and other Church Documents irrationally, produces a non traditional conclusion. It is heretical. It is in schism with the past Magisterium before 1949. The past Magisterium interpreted Magisterial Documents ( Creeds, Councils etc) rationally and traditionally.

Pope Francis, the lawyer Patruno judiciously asserts, may be a debated figure, but “until there is the sententia ecclesiae, no one - layman or ordinary priest - may substitute himself for the teaching Church” (p. 213).

Lionel: No pope, cardinal, bishop or priest must change the interpretation of the Nicene Creed and reject the Athanasius Creed. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem).There are restrictions on offering Holy Mass.

 At the most, the opinion that one might have about Francis could count as the opinion of a private scholar. But no man, apart from the pope, is by nature infallible: only the pope is, under certain conditions, when he exercises his mandate. Moreover, there can be no Church without a pope, and if today the pope is not Francis, who is or will be? These are unavoidable questions to which a “charismatic” answer cannot be given, outside the most elementary notions of theology and canon law.

Lionel: No pope can change the interpretation of the Nicene Creed and reject the Athanasius Creed. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem).Yet this is official and public today. There is no denial.

The most reasonable path to follow in this painful situation seems to be the one traced by the Correctio filialis of 16 July 2017 (http://www.correctiofilialis.org/it/), a firm and respectful document presented by 40 scholars, later becoming more than 200, to urge the Holy Father to reject the heresies and errors he has promoted. This initiative deserves to be taken up again, but above all adopted by a suitable number of cardinals and bishops, not in order to “depose” the pope, but to admonish him filially, following the example of St Paul towards St Peter (Ad Gal 2:14).

Lionel: Those who signed the Correctio Filialis were all interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally like Pope Francis. So they also have changed the interpretation of the Nicene Creed and have rejected the Athanasius Creed. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem).This was public and there was no denial from them.The signatories today continue with the same error as Pope Francis.

In moments of serious crisis there is an obligation to denounce errors, even coming from the supreme ecclesiastical authority, with all due respect for the Vicar of Christ...

Lionel: There is also an obligation for Roberto dei Mattei to admit that he wrote his book on Vatican Council II by interpreting the Council irrationally. So he is also changing the interpretation of the Creeds. This is heresy and schism. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II ( Ad Tuendum Fidem).

-Lionel Andrades

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