I interpret LG 8, 14,
15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being hypothetical
cases. The 21 new cardinals in September interpret LG 8 etc as being physically
visible cases in 2023. If they were not physically visible cases for them then they
would be affirming Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), like me.
It is because LG 8
etc are physically visible for them, that LG 8 etc are practical exceptions for
the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed.This Creeds says all need Catholic Faith for
salvation.
For example, if there
is an apple in a box of oranges, the apple is an exception.It is an exception because it is
different.It is also an exception because it exists there in that box. If it was not in that
box it would not be an exception.
An exception must
exist. It must be visible for it to be an exception.
If something is not
there it cannot be an exception.
For the new cardinals
the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) are
exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. But there are no BOD and I.I cases in our human
reality. They are invisible. If they exist they can only be known to God.
For the new cardinals
LG 8, LG 14, LG 15, LG 16, NA 2, GS 22, etc, are exceptions for the dogma EENS
of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). But LG 8,14,15,16 etc are invisible cases
for me. So how can they be exceptions for EENS etc?
So for me there are
no exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.The new cardinals cannot say the same. So
they are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and I am interpreting Vatican
Council II rationally.
They are interpreting
the BOD and I.I irrationally. I am interpreting them rationally.
They are creating
exceptions for the Fourth Lateran Council on EENS. I am avoiding any
exceptions.
They are interpreting
Vatican Council II as a rupture with the past. I am choosing the hermeneutic
of continuity with Tradition.
NICENE CREED HAS TWO INTERPRETATIONS
Since they are interpreting
the BOD and I.I and Vatican Council II irrationally they are also interpreting
the Nicene Creed irrationally. The Nicene Creed now has two interpretations,
theirs and mine.
How can
a cardinal be a cardinal when he changes the interpretation of the Nicene Creed?
This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths (Ad Tuendem
Fidem).
For me,
the Nicene Creed says ‘I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins’.
It is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.
For
them, it is, ‘I believe in three or more baptisms.They are the baptisms of
desire, blood, ignorance etc.They exclude the baptism of water’. These baptisms are known in personal cases for them. They are physically visible. Otherwise they would not be exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.
THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE APOSTLES CREED IS HERETICAL
We also
have two interpretations of the Apostles Creed. Their position is heretical.
For me,
the Apostles Creed refers to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church which
says outside the Church there is no salvation. For them, the Holy Spirit, the
Holy Catholic Church teaches that outside the Church there is salvation, there
is known salvation. The Apostles Creed is a problem for them.
How can
the 21 bishops be made cardinals? Canon Law expects them to be Catholic.
THEY REJECT THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND I ACCEPT IT
For
them the Athanasius Creed has exceptions. For me, the Athanasius Creed has no
exceptions. So we also have two different interpretations of the Athanasius
Creed.
They have
rejected the centuries-old interpretation of the Athanasius Creed.It says
all need the Catholic faith for salvation.
They
have rejected the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed in their original interpretation. They have rejected the centuries-old interpretation.This is bad enough. However there are also two versions of the Catechisms
for them.
CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X IS NOT CONTRADICTORY FOR ME
For me
the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q, 27Q) says other religions are not paths to
salvation.While 29 Q (invincible ignorance) does not contradict24 Q and 29 Q . Neither does 29 Q contradict the dogma EENS. For them visible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance,
contradict EENS. They are exceptions for 24 Q and 27Q (other religions are not
paths to salvation). So for them 29 Q contradict 24 Q and 27 Q.
For me,
invisible and hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance (CCC
847-848) are not exceptions for CCC 846 (Outside the Church there is no
salvation) CCC 846 supports Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14. For them, it is the opposite. There are exceptions. Invisible
people are visible.
The new
cardinals do not accept the Creeds and Catechisms. They reject the Fourth Lateran
Council and the Council of Florence on EENS. They interpret Vatican Council II
and the Catechism of the Catholic Church irrationally. They are non traditional while I interpret them rationally and traditionally as a Catholic.
They
don’t deny what I write here and have written many times
before on this blog EucharistandMission (Lionel's blog).
REINTERPRETATION OF THE CREEDS MEAN AUTOMATIC EXCOMMUNICATION
They are re-interpreting the Creeds and so are automatically excommunicated.
This is a mortal sin of faith.
NO DENIAL FROM ARCHBISHOP VICTOR FERNANDEZ
There
is no denial from Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, the new Prefect of the
Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF-formerly CDF) and one of the 21
to be appointed a cardinal in September 2023.
He does
not say that he affirms Feeneyite EENS. He does not say that the BOD and I.I
refer to hypothetical and non objective cases only in 2023. There is no
clarification from him.
He does
not say that he interprets LG 8, 14,15 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican
Council II as being only hypothetical cases, in 1965-2023.So they are not
examples of salvation outside the Church. They do not contradict the dogma
EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
He does
not say that he interprets CCC 847-848 (invincible ignorance) rationally and
so CCC 847-848 does not contradict Ad Gentes.It says all need faith and
baptism for salvation. Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma EENS while LG 8,14,15,16 etc
are not practical exceptions for AG 7 or EENS.
How can
he be appointed a cardinal?
How can
18 of the 21 new cardinals be allowed to elect a pope?
They
are in heresy for changing the interpretation of the Creeds. They are in schism
with the Magisterium of, for example, the 16th century.
This is
a scandal. It is an impediment for offering Holy Mass according to Canon Law.
Fernandez
is interpreting Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms
irrationally, in public. He wants all new vocations to the religious life to
accept polygamy, LGBT-sex, women priests, the ordination of married men and a
fake new ecumenism - all based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, EENS etc.
Why are
the other cardinals allowing this? They must affirm the Creeds, Councils,
Catechisms and Vatican Council II in public.
The
cardinals throughout the world must not elect a pope who does not affirm
Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils, Catechisms etc) rationally.
No one
knows from where Fernandez is really coming.
The
cardinals must sign a joint petition based upon the points mentioned above
and send it to Pope Francis.
They must also send it to the Signatura, the Supreme Tribunal at the Vatican. They must ask the Vatican Judiciary to affirm the Catholic Faith. Cardinal Angelo Becciu could also make this demand.He could appeal to the ecclesiastical judiciary, to come back to the Catholic Faith. They, like Canon Lawyers and Canon Law Associations, also interpret Vatican Council II etc, irrationally. It is the same with the Catholic judges in the secular judiciary in Italy.
The 21 new cardinals in September 2023 are in public heresy and schism. There is no denial from any of them. How can 18 of them be allowed to elect a new pope, when they interpret Vatican Council, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally ? -Lionel Andrades
JULY 29, 2023
There are two important discoveries the cardinals must note before the Synod in October and the ordination of 21 cardinals in September
JULY 29, 2023
Rorate Caeili and Roberto dei Mattei have posted another report in which they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally.
JULY 29, 2023
When Archbishop Carlo Vigano says Vatican Council II should be scrapped, he pleases the liberals. Since he is projecting Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. He is a Cushingite. He is choosing the Irrational Premise (invisible people are visible) and Irrational Inference (invisible cases of LG 16 etc are visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus). So his conclusion is nontraditional (Vatican Council II is a rupture and not a continuity with Tradition).
JULY 28, 2023
Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II
TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.
If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.
I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.
The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc irrationally and I am rational.
I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.
The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.
Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com
p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.
ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.
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E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
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